James Haren has more FT's than he does FGs :pachaha:

[Saiyajin]

That's exactly what I'm saying, he has a little gimmick that he does.
To be honest, I'm borrowing that terminology from video game player. In super smash bros. if you pick jiggly puff, dudes know you're just gonna float around near the edge and edge guard them until they fall off. It's a bullshyt gimmick tactic that's totally within the rules and incredibly effective, but if you play that way you have to take the L in the real world because there's other characters that take more skill to play and you're coping out by avoiding those, like fox or falco who go super fast and do crazy shyt.

In this analogy (which won't make any sense) Harden is Jigglypuff, and Steph is Fox. Harden does someshyt that's borderline questionable, and it gets him wins. But don't try and tell me I have to respect that shyt when there's guys out here like Steph actually playing the game and not making me watch for 90 minutes.

Like, one of the reasons I'm a fan of basketball is it's one of the sports where style points matter - not on the scoreboard but to the fans/players. That's why people don't like harden's bs on offense, and they don't like when the Spurs do Hack-a-Jordan for half the 4th qtr.
It's why Shaq chose to shoot 50% FTs without ever even considering taking a granny shot.

It's why 20 years after Kareem, nobody shoots a hook shot even though it's proven to be effective as fukk.

Harden's like "fukk all that, I'd rather score 33 than 22 and then bytch when I don't get the MVP"

i love watching hungrybox's jiggly puff tho :hubielupe:


but yea i get what you're saying, you wanna watch elite level scoring and athleticism and drawing fouls is gimmicky and dull. But if thats what wins games for Harden then he should keep doing it, i mean i doubt he cares about entertaining his audience over winning.

but Harden never really complained when he didnt get MVP, other players were complaining on his behalf. And last season he had an amazing season and was completely ignored and snubbed.

 

[GPBear]

@Kotal Kahn plus I just don't like his beard

 

[GPBear]

i love watching hungrybox's jiggly puff tho :hubielupe:


but yea i get what you're saying, you wanna watch elite level scoring and athleticism and drawing fouls is gimmicky and dull. But if thats what wins games for Harden then he should keep doing it, i mean i doubt he cares about entertaining his audience over winning.

but Harden never really complained when he didnt get MVP, other players were complaining on his behalf. And last season he had an amazing season and was completely ignored and snubbed.

/nods head so hard

See. See. Look at this.

You're a stan of James Harden, and you love yourself some HBOX.

Do I REALLY need to say anything more or are we clear on this discussion

You know I got them twitch subs to Mango

it's all good homie, it's just interesting to see how people appreciate sports differently respect

 

[GPBear]

i love watching hungrybox's jiggly puff tho :hubielupe:


but yea i get what you're saying, you wanna watch elite level scoring and athleticism and drawing fouls is gimmicky and dull. But if thats what wins games for Harden then he should keep doing it, i mean i doubt he cares about entertaining his audience over winning.

but Harden never really complained when he didnt get MVP, other players were complaining on his behalf. And last season he had an amazing season and was completely ignored and snubbed.

see that's the thing though, unlike HBOX, he doesn't win. He gets knocked out in the playoffs because he relies on FTs and really when the games on the line, superior athleticism is what's gonna get the job done.

Example of superior athleticism trumping bullshyt gimmicks:

And I've gone through all this without once mentioning breh's sickly defense, like really. Maybe his whole thing is "don't play D too hard or else you'll foul". He jut views basketball as a game of fouls lol

And he does flop, he over-exaggerates all the time. And I'm just saying if dudes keep getting fouls over small shyt, sooner or later they're gonna start making those fouls count and put dude on his back. James Lands Hard-en the ground, is more like it.

 

[Joe Sixpack]

I would rather jump off a backboard head first into rusted nails then watch this popcorn love fakkit play basketball

 

[jadillac]

in the end he'll never get to the Finals because ppl dont wanna see that game on the big stage.
Refs won't take him that far.

But at the same time, he's now star so they can't kill his starpower by switching up rules.

 

[GilSho]

in the end he'll never get to the Finals because ppl dont wanna see that game on the big stage.
Refs won't take him that far.

But at the same time, he's now star so they can't kill his starpower by switching up rules.

He averages more FT's in the postseason. Stop peddling this myth.

 

[GilSho]

What a dumb thread. Completely ignore a great proportion of his points come from 3 brehs. You're essentially complaining about him not being a chucker.

He averages only 18 shots per game, Westbrook for example takes 24, AD - 22, DeRozan - 21.

He's been a Superstar for over 4 years, you'd think people would learn to stop fouling him.

 

[jadillac]

He averages more FT's in the postseason. Stop peddling this myth.

I said the FINALS, for a reason....not the playoffs.

The refs aren't gonna carry him to a title on the biggest state. It's a bad look for the game.

But think what you want...

 

[CarltonJunior]

Harden is a fukking fraud.

He's trash in the playoffs too against teams that actually have defensive personnel

 

[Patrick Kane]

This actually a testament to how good he is offensively

It's an easy 2 points he gets by initiating contact and keeping the other team in foul trouble and forcing pressure on them inside

How is this a bad thing?

 

[Born2BKing]

I dont know who James Haren is but he sounds like a beast

Not Really

James Haren (@Saints_4eva) on Twitter

 

[Bilz]

This the only reason why I don't respect his numbers. Or the Spurs and they hack strategy.



Don't nobody want to pay hundreds of dollars to watch a free throw fest..



Well, Houston fans do, but shyt is annoying af

Lakers fans have historically enjoyed free throw fests.

 

[Monoblock]

I can't stand to watch him play. He relies on fouls to get him out of situations where he gets locked down defensively and doesnt even attempt to make a move to the goal. Free throw fest...pathetic.

 

[3rd Koast Kang]

@GPBear fukk yo neg nikka