Jeezy exposes record labels for intentionally paying young, traumatized rappers millions to rap about killing each other,

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I'll never shyt on a civil rights icon.

And yes she was right in her thoughts regarding gangsta rap at the time.

Do i believe her or Suge.... :mjlol:



According to the deposition, it's a matter of do you believe Tucker or Suge's lawyer. And the court concluded tht Suge's lawyer had probable cause to peruse their claims. In other words, there was probable cause that Tucker did attempt to position herself with Suge. That's why it was no coincidence that once that flashlight was on her she wasn't keeping that same energy towards gangster rap like that after the fact.


In Tucker v. Kenner, the district court concluded that Kenner and Thomas had probable cause to pursue the claims for intentional interference with contractual relationship, intentional interference with prospective business advantage, and unfair business practices and unfair competition.

 

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According to the deposition, it's a matter of do you believe Tucker or Suge's lawyer. And the court concluded tht Suge's lawyer had probable cause to peruse their claims. In other words, there was probable cause that Tucker did attempt to position herself with Suge. That's why it was no coincidence that once that flashlight was on her she wasn't keeping that same energy towards gangster rap like that after the fact.


In Tucker v. Kenner, the district court concluded that Kenner and Thomas had probable cause to pursue the claims for intentional interference with contractual relationship, intentional interference with prospective business advantage, and unfair business practices and unfair competition.

Not denying she probably wanted to force Suge to do some shyt music wise take the heat off DR at the time. :hubie:


Was speaking more on her not being wrong about the music.
 

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its 2025 and folks still believe in the "record labels force black men to make vulgar music" conspiracy :beli:

The people want violence so it makes money...
its that simple.

Jeezy is just trying to come off as deep talking to a preacher.
This isn't a conspiracy theory....

80s were one of the most violent decades during crack epidemic and rappers back then rapped about what they wanted and you'd barely ever hear ignorant lyrics about selling drugs like it's a cool thing, shooting another man, etc. Some people do want violence, but rapping didn't start as some violence glorification, read the history.

Fast forward to early 90s, rapping reaches bigger audience and all of a sudden a lot of positive thinking artists are being pushed little by little to the side and new rough hardcore artists are being promoted as the new trend. Even some of the artists who used to make innocent party music from back in the 80s then shaved their head, adopted a rougher sounding style to fit in there, etc.

And it's not just Hip-Hop, Rock music also saw an increase of dark emo lyrics in the 90s, all that antisocial bullshyt with lyrics about them being on the verge of crashing out in life, etc.

It's not like humanity all of a sudden decided "Hey let's start making more violent music cause it's cool!"

Today's rappers don't even need to get paid to rap ignorant shyt because they grew up in the days when that type of style was considered a trend.
 

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People are bringing up the C Delores Tucker days and all that. Problem is she and Rev Butts we’re getting shyt on because hiphop was still a young genre trying to find itself. It made sense back then for rappers to buck the system to keep this shyt alive. Hell 2 Live Crew saved it from having to censor the music. Who knows what would’ve happened if 2 Live Crew didn’t win that case. Aren’t we suppose to let people fukk up and grow then try to get through to the youth and others? Hiphop is too damn diverse now to be relying on drill or whatever negative rap is out there. We can and should ask for better. I’m not mad at Jeezy.
 

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Yeah, lol I don’t even know how to reply to him if we can’t agree on this specific statement. Nothing they do is designed to help you.
It's not only wrong, but also deeply irresponsible to suggest that this is simply "supply & demand" in a vacuum with no context

This shyt is a business but every successful business has a plan and a strategy

Eventually every rap fan hits a crossroads where they decide to keep indulging the bullshyt or adjusting their tastes a bit. Whites with no cultural connection can toss it away entirely... Well, this shyt needs to keep growing to justify its existence so they need to keep creating new audiences...and we know what draws casuals in...

They aimed at women and gays in the last few years, and the results have been mixed...rap also stopped charting consistently this year... Ironic? Might be running low on ideas, and might have to adjust expectations of how much money is getting pumped into this shyt going forward...

That's why violent content thrives (for a mostly white audience), and why it's so difficult to point to non-stereotypical imagery of Black folks in America. It works, and it works because there's never been a concerted effort to do anything else, at best it's bad for business, at worst it undermines white supremacy and becomes an actual problem

White America is having it's own version of this issue with the current admin. Some of it is putting a mirror in people's faces, but a lot of it is them telling you what you should want to see and why.

Everything that we've come to accept as mainstream, is deeply intentional and always has been
 
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Not denying she probably wanted to force Suge to do some shyt music wise take the heat off DR at the time. :hubie:


Was speaking more on her not being wrong about the music.


I hear you but as someone who was heavily into the Death Row story I went down that C Deloris Tucker rabbit hole and to learn that she was a conservative puppet for Time Warner after buying stock in their company, it was in the air that all that protesting and rabble rousing she was doing was a straight up hustle. It sounded nice but there's too much in the air that says she was just hustling phony outrage. Being that the court documents has her looking funny in the light, an asterisk will forever be on her name as to whether or not her issues with gangster rap were genuine. And that's why I said C Deloris Tucker was not a real example of moral standard.
 

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I hear you but as someone who was heavily into the Death Row story I went down that C Deloris Tucker rabbit hole and to learn that she was a conservative puppet for Time Warner after buying stock in their company, it was in the air that all that protesting and rabble rousing she was doing was a straight up hustle. It sounded nice but there's too much in the air that says she was just hustling phony outrage. Being that the court documents has her looking funny in the light, an asterisk will forever be on her name as to whether or not her issues with gangster rap were genuine. And that's why I said C Deloris Tucker was not a real example of moral standard.

Right message, corrupted messenger? :ehh:
 
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