Jermaine O'neal disappointed Pacers let Buddy Held wear his #7

[RhodyRum]

I agree, I doubt Melo will have his jersey retired in NY. Just didn't have enough team success. But even worse we hardly ever even were in the playoffs. That's got to count for something. Would just feel strange tbh, as he's associated with a whole trash period (even though that's mostly the FO's fault). Strangely enough he'll most probably make it to the HOF without having his jersey retired anywhere in the NBA.

Thank you for the civil and even take.

And not because you agree with me, but because you have enough class to not refute me with boldface lies or personal conjecture, and you didn't try to insult my intelligence with posting an article that doesn't back up your thesis, thus wasting my time.

 

[Sleepy Floyd]

Dude only had 4 good seasons with the Pacers. They had the best record in the league one year with him and they still didn't make it to the Finals. After Malice in the Palace he battled injuries and they couldn't consistently make the playoffs like before

 

[mitter]

JO didn't accomplish anything noteworthy

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]

70% of his points came in those 8 Indy seasons...

I understand but he’s undeserving

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]

Dude only had 4 good seasons with the Pacers. They had the best record in the league one year with him and they still didn't make it to the Finals. After Malice in the Palace he battled injuries and they couldn't consistently make the playoffs like before

They could’ve made a run at it that year if that fight didn’t happen. If that fight didn’t happen and this guy would’ve stayed healthy they would’ve went to the finals.

 

[Shadow King]

I understand but he’s undeserving

It's not a strong argument, but he has one.

And you can't use career points when this is specifically about his tenure in Indiana.

 

[Shadow King]

So the final paragraph in this article from May says...



...and you take it as he's definitely getting his number retired? Do y'all cats even review your own evidence?

I even put the date of the article in my post to help you avoid this mistake, to no avail. Your posted article said they were discussing retiring his jersey, and my posted article from August (3 months later) makes no mention of that discussion coming to fruition, or even gaining traction.

So you were wrong. As of now there is no #15 being retired at the Garden. And IMO, it never should if it's for Melo.

Now if Dolan and the Knicks front office do decide to retire Melo's 15, I'll happily eat some bittersweet crow. Bitter because, hey, who likes being wrong? Sweet because it would just further confirm that I made the right decision in abandoning this dusty ass franchise ran by their loser owner who haven't done a thing of note since literally the last century, during a year that Prince made a song about 14 years prior.

And funny enough, Melo's jersey retirement would actually be a fitting punctuation to the absurd comedic theater known as the James Dolan era of The New York Knickerbockers.

Thank you for the civil and even take.

And not because you agree with me, but because you have enough class to not refute me with boldface lies or personal conjecture, and you didn't try to insult my intelligence with posting an article that doesn't back up your thesis, thus wasting my time.

You writing all of this if you didn't use smilies to initally disagree with my post of Melo likely getting his number retired.

The article @Anerdyblackguy posted is further from personal conjecture than you saying it won't happen cause you think it shouldn't.

And the niqqa ain't even wear 15 which was retired for 2 different players 20 years before he came.

 

[staticshock]

Imo he kind of has a point. But the Pacers are extra selective on how many players got their jersey retired. Maybe the Pacers just reaching out to him prior to giving the number would've been a nice gesture. Dunno.

Anyway no winning a ring shouldn't be a prerequisite, y'all really think that Barkley, Ewing or Iverson should not have their jerseys retired?

I think everyone knows or agrees you don’t need a ring to get your number retired.
JO was nice but he wasn’t like that

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]

It's not a strong argument, but he has one.

And you can't use career points when this is specifically about his tenure in Indiana.

Rik Smits is more deserving

 

[Shadow King]

Rik Smits is more deserving

As deserving...

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]

As deserving...

Well the reason I say that he stayed with one team his entire career

 

[Shadow King]

Well the reason I say that he stayed with one team his entire career

JO never had that choice. He was traded to and from the Pacers.

 

[NYC Rebel]

Ego bigger than his forehead

Why he look disappointed here?

 

[Yagirlcheatinonus]

JO never had that choice. He was traded to and from the Pacers.

Yea he had his best years there but I don’t really think that’s enough cuz his career wasn’t that great

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Jermaine O Neal somewhat forgotten about. When you think class of 96 you think AI,Bean,Allen ,Marbury,Nash its like dude will forever be known as Malace in Palace guy then anything else ah well