JJ Reddikk "Larry Bird is not a top 3 Three Point Shooter of all time."

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Act like his dad didn't average 16ppg in just 26-27 minutes with a fraction of the skills. :dead:


Steph Curry in the 1980s/1990s would be a more athletic Mark Price with better handles. And Mark Price was 1st-team All-NBA.

Yeah, he woudn't shoot as many threes. But the points Curry didn't get via 3pt, he'd still get via midrange and acrobatic layins after splitting the defense.
Well ok SINCE you picked that particular season. If Dell had the green light for 15 3's a game he would have averaged close to 30 a game.:wow:. Lol at fraction of the skills though, handle wasnt as nice but Dell was just as good if not better moving without the ball and slashing, even had a little post game. Could shoot off of the dribble as well.
 

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Says who?
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makes zero sense to look at efficiency without considering the volume a player is taking. Isaiah Joe is the league leader in 3 point percentage this season.. Is he the best shooter in the league? He only shoots 2 percentage points higher than Steph but has taken over 200 less shots.
 

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Bird is the greatest 3 pt shooter of all time. And when the game is on the line he’s even better. Nobody else is touch him during crunch time (3 pt wise)
 

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i think they would still be shooting better from 3 than bird did. you can’t prove that either of us is right because it never happened.

this is the problem with these hypothetical situations
This.

That is why logically I can’t argue these situations.

It is pointless

Unless we run some simulator for N amount of times.
 

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Well ok SINCE you picked that particular season. If Dell had the green light for 15 3's a game he would have averaged close to 30 a game.:wow:. Lol at fraction of the skills though, handle wasnt as nice but Dell was just as good if not better moving without the ball and slashing, even had a little post game. Could shoot off of the dribble as well.
Imagine if Dell Curry had a father who played in the NBA and a 5 year old Dell was allowed to shoot on NBA rims and grew up only having to hoop. :jbhmm:

 

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Well ok SINCE you picked that particular season. If Dell had the green light for 15 3's a game he would have averaged close to 30 a game.:wow:. Lol at fraction of the skills though, handle wasnt as nice but Dell was just as good if not better moving without the ball and slashing, even had a little post game. Could shoot off of the dribble as well.

Yes, a fraction of the skills, and you straight ignored all the ways in which their games are different.


First off, Dell simply didn't have the quality of 3-ball that Steph has, neither range nor accuracy. For the three years the NBA let players have the short three, Dell shot threes at a 42% clip. But at the normal 3pt line distance, he shot just 39% for his career. And that was while taking easier threes that Steph usually takes. If he could have shot better from deep then he wouldn't have looked so much better from the short line. 10 of the 13 years he played with the long line, he shot 40% or worse - something Steph has only done ONCE in his entire career.

Dell moved well off-ball, but suggesting it was close to Steph is laughable. It was just easier because they called illegal defense back then so switching off-ball was a lot tougher.

Dell didn't have a fraction of the handle that Steph had. He was closer to Klay than to Steph when it came to dribbling.

Dell wasn't remotely the passer either - you're talking a guy who only averaged 1.8 assists/game for his career. Along with the dribbling that limited his offensive effectiveness because he had no triple-threat position. Any time Dell Curry got the ball, there was only one threat.

Most of all you missed that Dell was terrible at the rim. He had no layup package, he rarely if ever scored at the rim unless it was a fast break on a broken play. Whereas Steph is elite for a point guard at the rim.



With no handle, no layup package, no passing threat, and an inferior deep ball, Dell still averaged 16ppg in just 26-27 minutes at his peak. Even if he had just been versatile enough to be a 35 mpg player, that alone would have made him a 21-22ppg guy. But we're supposed to believe that Steph would only have been a 10-12ppg player with twice the skill and versatility?
 

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Hes not a top 3 3 point shooter of all time

You shouldnt really factor in hypotheticals too much. He didnt have the volume. If you want to talk about talent or ability while disregarding numbers then yeah maybe, but in totality you cant justify it

Dude walked into a 3 point contest and said to his fellow competitors "which one of you guys is taking 2nd place?" And continued to win the event without even taking off his warm ups. Won three in a row... he probably chose not to enter the next year because he was bored.

Larry Bird is similar to Jordan in the respect that
they could do whatever they wanted on a basketball court.
 

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Dude walked into a 3 point contest and said to his fellow competitors "which one of you guys is taking 2nd place?" And continued to win the event without even taking off his warm ups. Won three in a row... he probably chose not to enter the next year because he was bored.

Larry Bird is similar to Jordan in the respect that
they could do whatever they wanted on a basketball court.

I agree and that still doesnt make him a top 3 all time 3 point shooter. It showed he had the capacity to be one though
 

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the problem with the lesser volume argument is if he was forced to take a bad shot or throwing up a last second heave that killed his percentages. then you add in that he was playing more minutes in more games more frequently, all things that negatively affect long distance shooting. it becomes an era argument, that said its hard to argue that he is top 3 because it was never the main weapon in his game and the stats are what they are. now disregarding the 3pt qualifier, if you ask is he a top 3 shooter ever? now hes in the conversation.
 
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