Joe is a good podcaster and very good at his current job. Hell, the dude stayed in the news despite having no music that resonated with listeners for a decade. He's a big name now and I tip my hat to him so I'm not a fukking hater lol
The dude just never "got it" artistically. He bounced from label to label, crew to crew, "underground rapper" sure, yet does superficial, staged reality TV.
Jay Elec ain't above criticism at all, but I'm not hearing it from Joe Budden man. That's his curse. Being a visible artist helped build his platform, but it also makes him look like a fukkin crab when he shyts on talented artists