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Saul has had enough
Joey B vs. Don Tha Con: Battle For The Soul Of America - 2020 Presidential Debate in Cleveland, OH
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Saul has had enough
I think it would’ve been way worse if it was Bernie. He’s a lot more witty than Biden is. Again, a New Yorker would know how to deal with Trump in a debate better than anyone
The Fox News town hall that Bernie did showed why Trump would have been screwed in a debate with him.
Trump tied to attack Biden by tying him to Bernie's policies, and Biden had to keep deflecting and saying, "Those aren't my policies". It was one of his worst moments of the debate because the deflections don't look good to independents AND they piss off liberals.
Bernie's advantage is that he actually LIKES his policies and knows how to sell them. Bernie was selling his policies to the Fox News audience, he was selling his policies to Joe Rogan's audience. He's likeable because he actually believes in what he's doing. And especially right now? Think of how easily Bernie can promote Medicare for all while coronavirus is ravaging the country. Think of how easily Bernie can promote a better safety net while everyone is unemployed. Think of how easily Bernie can dismiss attacks on his spending when even the Republicans are desperate to sign $2.5 trillion relief bills. Trump would have been food.
What's also funny... just now Bernie was on Kimmel selling Biden's policies and how if Dems win the Senate, he'll be Chairman on a couple committees (Budget and subcommittee on health) that'll be crafting the legislation and he'll be pushing to put his stamp on it in one way or another.
First off, no, it is extraordinarily unlikely that getting rid of small cities/towns will improve our environmental situation, in fact quite the opposite unless you're about to go full buy-in on socialism. The flood of people from rural places to urban ones has been associated with severe environmental degradation, as corporations tend to take over the land that families and small landowners leave behind and then totally fukk it over.
This is an article a friend of mine from Oregon sent me some time back. It shows how the forests in western Oregon have been absolutely wrecked by corporate control and the death of all the little towns that used to prosper in those regions.
Big money bought the forests. Small timber communities are paying the price
How are you going to solve that issue without shifting massive tracks of land from private control to public? The profiteers don't want to give it up, so are you just going to have a massive confiscation of land? How will that work?
And the issue I was speaking of with forest encroachment isn't small towns. The small towns that have been there forever aren't encroaching on the forest. Rural communities are shrinking, not growing. The issue is individual landowners, often wealthy people who don't even live out there full-time, buying up properties in the middle of nowhere and putting summer homes and shyt on them. It's the 2nd homes or the retirement homes of people who don't live off the land but want some beautiful spot to chill and take their friends to. Those are the people who ain't going to let no prescribed burn happen anywhere near their property and threaten their forest mini-mansion.
How are you going to stop people like that? Especially when both the liberals and conservatives are doing it - hell, wealthy old Democrats are probably MORE likely to be moving into those granola homes than Republicans are, that shyt has been turning Montana blue. How are you going to get the Republicans and Dems both to go after their own fundraisers and power brokers?
You published a fake poll.
I disproved it with a real poll.
Instead of responding to my calling out of your bullshyt, you doubled down.
I have no idea what your exact goals are, but it appears more and more that you're just shytposting as fast as you can and focusing on things that increase division. Who is paying you to do that?
I know Dems were scared that Trump would have an easier time but it’s clear as day to me that Bernie would’ve decimated Trump. Biden shouldn’t have an issue either but Bernie would’ve totally washed Trump. The arguments held against him and his campaign were mid.
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I'm with that analogy. Some plays were left on the field but since his competition was a coked out, Adderall aided psychopath and narcissist, His QB rating of 85 looks amazing next to one of 5.
I was reading the Fox News takes and they're all straight-up admitting that Biden looked sharp and mentally sound so Trump's attacks on his capacity fell flat.
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This x100. There is something wrong and off about his behavior and it needs to be called out.
Back to the debate...Biden did what Hillary couldn’t. Hillary is infinitely smarter and more impressive than Biden intellectually but sometimes you have to meet fukkery with fukkery. Biden refused to be bullied. He stood tall and was the bigger person for most of the night. Even when he threw names out he was responding to Trump’s ignorance. Trump didn’t see weakness or blood tonight...and I bet it terrified him. He’s gonna go nuclear next. The smears and “leaks” will be stepped up.
how did you manage to catch coherent jabs through a barrage of bullshyt?
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He's either being paid to sow discord or he's being paid to promote shytty pundits. At times it has looked like the DNC was paying him to do this shyt but if so they have the WOAT operation. Which, of course, is possible being that they're the DNC.
I think Clinton did fine in her debate. She just suffered from different expectations.
Back in 2016, everyone still thought Trump was a not serious clown who was gonna get beat. The narrative going into the debate was that Clinton would wash him. When he managed to survive without looking like a total fool the entire time, it helped his status somehow even though everyone agreed Clinton won all three debates. He didn't need to win, he just needed to look like he belonged there.
This time around, Trump is "the president" and he's been passing the narrative that Biden is an incompetent fool who will look hopeless in the debate. So Trump was actually expected to win this time. When Biden looked competent and Trump looked embarrassing, that alone won it for Biden even if he missed a lot of chances.
We weren’t watching the same game. He barely threw the ball or went down field. He was safe, ran it 37 times to be exact. Although he averaged only 3.3 yards a carry, he got first downs when he needed and Donald kept shooting himself in the foot with offsides and unsportsmanlike penalties.
Joe didn’t give us the down the field plays we wanted to embarrass don more, but that’s alright because don handled that part well himself.
it was also an interesting decision to go for it on fourth down, every time (even once on his own 5 yard line
), by Donald. But his staff has to be questioning that now since it turned into 17 points for joe
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