John Calipari Is Overrated

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Walt said:
Ben Howland had a three year stretch in which his teams went 97-17, and went to 3 straight Final Fours. Interesting how "brilliant" a coach can look when he has significant NBA talent year in and year out. It's no coincidence that as Howland lost his grip on the local recruiting scene, UCLA's record fell off a cliff, and he was forced out.

North Carolina hasn't had 30 years of sustained excellence because of a legacy of coaching savants, just as dook - for as smart a coach I believe Coach Kampf to be - hasn't dominated the ACC for so long simply because K is "a leader of men." Talent usually wins. Winning with a talent advantage doesn't make you a great coach, it means you're at least an adequate one. I've played the game at a high level, and I've coached before (not at a high level). It's not easy to seaparate an adequate coach from a good coach, but it is easy to spot brilliant coaches and bad coaches. You mention Boeheim, but I've never thought he was a brilliant coach. He's somewhat inflexible and his in-game adjustments aren't impressive when tourney time comes around. He rode a once-in-a-lifetime player to a title, and he lost some big games with loaded squads, including a historic first round loss and a championship loss to an Indiana team that had less talent but a smarter coach (I have never liked Bobby Knight, but the man sure as fukk could coach).

Bill Guthridge wasn't winning 30 games and making Final Four runs because he soaked up Dean Smith's coaching genius. He had freshmen and sophomores like Vince Carter and Antawn Jamison on his team. If you don't win 12-14 ACC games with that talent, and don't make a Final Four, your season is a failure, sorry. A talent advantage isn't some minor thing - it's the thing. Kentucky didn't beat Witchita State because Cal devised the gameplan of the century, they won because of NBA level size and talent. They had the more talented team. Almost every game they played during their tournament run, they had 3 or 4 of the best or biggest 5 players on the floor when the game tipped.

You can't give Cal credit for this tourney run, yet give him no blame at all for a shytty regular season, or for that pathetic NIT campaign (including a first round NIT loss). That's absurd. At least I'm reasonable enough to give him credit for the run to the title game this year. Coach Cal proponents have developed a ridiculous system of raionalizations that blame players for all failures, and credit Cal for all successes.

Two coaches who do stand out as a cut above the rest - to me at least - are Belein at Michigan and Smart at VCU. You can see their coaching acumen in the sets they run, in how the offense and defense changes at different points of the game, depending on who they're playing and how they're playing. You can see it in things as simple yet as crucial as out of bounds plays, and especially late game plays. I've seen VCU run plays with under 10 seconds left in games that were brilliant, even when they failed.

I don't think Cal is a bad coach. Rick Barnes is a bad coach. His mismanagement of talent is profound. Drew at Baylor is a bad coach for the same reason. He brings in NBA level talent and NBA level athleticism, and consistently underachieves. Cal at least gets plenty out of his talent and athleticism. I don't know how anyone can look at that loss to WVU - which had what exactly? Butler, Ebanks, and Truck Bryant's bum ass? - and not view that as an embarassing loss given the amount of talent on that Kentucky team. Nor do I know how someone can point to his one title as proof of coaching genius. He had a guy who, two seasons into his NBA career, is already being heralded as the next great NBA player. And he surrounded that uniquely dominant two-way player with NBA talent and athleticism at every other position. Unless you're a horrible coach, you're supposed to fukking win with that team.
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Breh, gtfoh with those 2 statements. Coach K has put out first rounders just about every year since 2007 (dumb ass Josh Mcroberts slipped to teh 2nd, I believe and fukked up coach K's run). Coach K has the talent, it's just hard to win the ACC regular season nowadays. shyt is stacked. As for Shaka smart's defensive coaching acumen (:comeon:), you obviously haven't watched many VCU games. I live in Richmond and I'm a VCU alumnus. I've seen them live many times with Smart as the head coach. If anything Smart sticks to his guns and refuses to come out of his defensive set (mainly full court), and that has lost VCU many games. Rest of the shyt I agree with, but those 2 points you're definitely wrong about.
 
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King Jove said:
i think his x's and o's is suspect but i'd still take em if he's bringing john wall, demarcus cousins, anthony davis, eric bledsoe, devin booker, malik monk, de'aaron fox, etc, etc with him :wow:
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crazy if any of those dudes stayed a extra year he could have a dynasty

ah well

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