Jonathan Isaac on why he's not getting the vaccine

[skylove4]

A lot of people have said that they are uncomfortable, yet it hasn't stopped them from being heckled and ridiculed by the masses.

They’ve never been uncomfortable about putting anything else in their bodies prior to the MAGA movement making this political. This again is 100% the only reason this is a issue. I took the flu shoot today at work and plenty of cacs and some black folks who aren’t vaxxed against Covid where in there sucking them flu shots up like a two dolla hoe named jawbone, no questioned asked

 

[Actually6Foot3]

I don't understand the logic in any of this peanut butter and jelly babble you just said. Acting like people don't give AF about they grannies.- Also it's the young thundercats spreading it to the old folks.

then tell the old folks to GET VACCINATED wtf

Y'all said 99.9% of hospitalitizations and deaths are unvaccinated. And if 95% of that is 50+ how is it a young persons fault an elderly muhfukka didn't get vaccinated and died as a result

 

[Actually6Foot3]

They’ve never been uncomfortable about putting anything else in their bodies prior to the MAGA movement making this political. This again is 100% the only reason this is a issue. I took the flu shoot today at work and plenty of cacs and some black folks who aren’t vaxxed against Covid where in there sucking them flu shots up like a two dolla hoe named jawbone, no questioned asked

You're implying people have no issues with the flu shot but are anti covid vaxx when only 43% of Americans eligible for a shot get the flu shot every year on average.

Statistically more Americas are getting the covid vaccine than they ever did the flu vaccine. Please stop

If you're implying ADULTS are taking vaccines willingly every year and now all of a sudden it's an issue youre a damn lie.

And this MAGA narrative on a supposedly black site where 93% of the black population voted Biden is quite telling I see this on Reddit but it makes sense over there.

 

[bnew]

then tell the old folks to GET VACCINATED wtf

Y'all said 99.9% of hospitalitizations and deaths are unvaccinated. And if 95% of that is 50+ how is it a young persons fault an elderly muhfukka didn't get vaccinated and died as a result

 

[Actually6Foot3]

the first tweet has nothing to do with the second as there is no age designated and it's common fact that the elderly make up over 90% of covid deaths. I can safely assume the vast majority of those deaths were elderly.

As for the second we need hard numbers. Calling it The 2nd 3rd or 4th leading cause means little if not to sensationalize

As an example It's akin to saying DEATHS HAVE TRIPLED!! Only to find out they went from 2 to 6. Womp

 

[skylove4]

You're implying people have no issues with the flu shot but are anti covid vaxx when only 43% of Americans eligible for a shot get the flu shot every year on average.

Statistically more Americas are getting the covid vaccine than they ever did the flu vaccine. Please stop

If you're implying ADULTS are taking vaccines willingly every year and now all of a sudden it's an issue youre a damn lie.

And this MAGA narrative on a supposedly black site where 93% of the black population voted Biden is quite telling I see this on Reddit but it makes sense over there.

It’s 51%. Also the flu shot isn’t the only thing they take without questioning but they normally put into into them and their child’s bodies.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

the first tweet has nothing to do with the second as there is no age designated and it's common fact that the elderly make up over 90% of covid deaths. I can safely assume the vast majority of those deaths were elderly.

As for the second we need hard numbers. Calling it The 2nd 3rd or 4th leading cause means little if not to sensationalize

As an example It's akin to saying DEATHS HAVE TRIPLED!! Only to find out they went from 2 to 6. Womp

No, it's not the same as "deaths going from 2 to 6", because it is objectively comparing your risk of dying from Covid-19 to your risk of dying from literally everything else (car accidents, heart attacks, cancer, homicide, suicide, etc.). It's not comparing to an arbitrarily small number, it's comparing to the real death risk from other factors. Unless you think of yourself as immortal and don't believe anything is a risk, then yes, Covid is a real risk.

Look at that chart. In August/September during the delta surge, Covid was the LEADING cause of death among 35-44 year olds. It was the #2 cause of death among 25-34 and #4 among 15-24. That's crazy high. And that's just deaths, not even counting all the people who have long-term effects without death. Pretending like Covid isn't affecting any young folk is just bullshyt.

If you like hard #'s better, official CDC numbers show that over 44,000 Americans in their 40s or younger have died of Covid-19. And that's just confirmed deaths - the true death toll is almost certainly higher due to people who died of heart attacks, blood clots, etc. without being tested. To put it another way, if you're in your 30s then your risk of dying has increased by about 10% compared to before the pandemic began, if you're in your 40s then it's increased by closer to 15%.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

then tell the old folks to GET VACCINATED wtf

Vaccination only works if your immune system forms a response. There are many elderly people whose immune systems don't work as well and thus they don't have much of a response to the vaccine, or the vaccine effect doesn't last as long. This is always true for vaccination.

For most diseases this isn't an issue because 96% of the population gets vaccinated thus herd immunity is in effect. Even the vulnerable are protected because mass vaccination stops the spread. But this year the MAGA/QANON crowd decided to be fukking morons with the anti-vaccine disinformation as a way of "owning the libs" and certain people who spend too much time on social media reading that bullshyt decided to be moron-adjacent. Thus we have no herd immunity, thus we still have spread and the vulnerable still die.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I feel dirty even coming back but this constant misinformation is fukking ridiculous.

you can tell this site is full of cacs. Majority of black people in this country are still unvaccinated

That is a complete lie. As of September over 70% of Black adults were vaccinated. The only way you could claim majority unvaccinated is if you're using old-ass data and counting little kids that can't even get vaccinated.

KFF COVID-19 Vaccine Monitor: September 2021

"Similar shares of Hispanic (73%), Black (70%), and White (71%) adults now report having received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine."

The only folks who default to "trumpers" counter arguments are liberal Reddit cacs

Trump supporters (50%), Republicans (58%) and White Evangelical Christians (62%) are all less likely to be vaccinated than Black adults (70%).



Okay, I'm done with this shyt again, either believe in realty or keep making up your own cause you saw some dumb shyt on Twitter.

 

[Actually6Foot3]

Vaccination only works if your immune system forms a response. There are many elderly people whose immune systems don't work as well and thus they don't have much of a response to the vaccine, or the vaccine effect doesn't last as long. This is always true for vaccination.

For most diseases this isn't an issue because 96% of the population gets vaccinated thus herd immunity is in effect. Even the vulnerable are protected because mass vaccination stops the spread. But this year the MAGA/QANON crowd decided to be fukking morons with the anti-vaccine disinformation as a way of "owning the libs" and certain people who spend too much time on social media reading that bullshyt decided to be moron-adjacent. Thus we have no herd immunity, thus we still have spread and the vulnerable still die.

all that and yet UNVACCINATED elderly make up 95% of deaths.

So who is lying. You or the CDC?

 

[Actually6Foot3]

I feel dirty even coming back but this constant misinformation is fukking ridiculous.




That is a complete lie. As of September over 70% of Black adults were vaccinated. The only way you could claim majority unvaccinated is if you're using old-ass data and counting little kids that can't even get vaccinated.

KFF COVID-19 Vaccine Monitor: September 2021

"Similar shares of Hispanic (73%), Black (70%), and White (71%) adults now report having received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine."





Trump supporters (50%), Republicans (58%) and White Evangelical Christians (62%) are all less likely to be vaccinated than Black adults (70%).



Okay, I'm done with this shyt again, either believe in realty or keep making up your own cause you saw some dumb shyt on Twitter.

you just compared sub groups with no age distinction to an entire race?

No shyt I'm talking total population.

Now what do you think the age demographic of the coli is? As is the case with all races the percentage is heavily shifted towards older black Americans. Young black Americans(which is assume this site was full of are still lagging way behind.

Black New Yorkers may have the lowest vaccination rates, but community groups refuse to give up - CNN

 

[Actually6Foot3]

No, it's not the same as "deaths going from 2 to 6", because it is objectively comparing your risk of dying from Covid-19 to your risk of dying from literally everything else (car accidents, heart attacks, cancer, homicide, suicide, etc.). It's not comparing to an arbitrarily small number, it's comparing to the real death risk from other factors. Unless you think of yourself as immortal and don't believe anything is a risk, then yes, Covid is a real risk.

Look at that chart. In August/September during the delta surge, Covid was the LEADING cause of death among 35-44 year olds. It was the #2 cause of death among 25-34 and #4 among 15-24. That's crazy high. And that's just deaths, not even counting all the people who have long-term effects without death. Pretending like Covid isn't affecting any young folk is just bullshyt.

If you like hard #'s better, official CDC numbers show that over 44,000 Americans in their 40s or younger have died of Covid-19. And that's just confirmed deaths - the true death toll is almost certainly higher due to people who died of heart attacks, blood clots, etc. without being tested. To put it another way, if you're in your 30s then your risk of dying has increased by about 10% compared to before the pandemic began, if you're in your 40s then it's increased by closer to 15%.

no need to guess.

COVID-19 deaths by age U.S. 2021 | Statista

18-39 about 15k of the 714k total deaths. That's 2.1% of deaths. A third of the country and only 2.1% of a virus that has a 2.2% death rate total.

But let's look at the death rate for 18-40

Out of 13.5 million cases in that age range.
15k deaths

.11% death rate

That's POINT 11

The age demographic with the lowest vaccination rates have a death rate of 1/10 of 1 percent of they contract covid. Remove all the ones who werent already sick or obese and that number gets even lower

 

[CrimsonTider]

no need to guess.

COVID-19 deaths by age U.S. 2021 | Statista

18-39 about 15k of the 714k total deaths. That's 2.1% of deaths. A third of the country and only 2.1% of a virus that has a 2.2% death rate total.

But let's look at the death rate for 18-40

Out of 13.5 million cases in that age range.
15k deaths

.11% death rate

That's POINT 11

The age demographic with the lowest vaccination rates have a death rate of 1/10 of 1 percent of they contract covid. Remove all the ones who werent already sick or obese and that number gets even lower

It’s all numbers until you’re affected

 

[jesc07]

you just compared sub groups with no age distinction to an entire race?

No shyt I'm talking total population.

Now what do you think the age demographic of the coli is? As is the case with all races the percentage is heavily shifted towards older black Americans. Young black Americans(which is assume this site was full of are still lagging way behind.

Black New Yorkers may have the lowest vaccination rates, but community groups refuse to give up - CNN

Don't waste your time arguing with someone who uses the word "misinformation" they already in too deep.

 

[bnew]

he's had COVID. his immunity is at least as good if not superior to that of the vaccine

Vaccines > Natural Immunity by 2x-9x