Imo healthcare would be free if (white) Americans were willing to pay taxes to finance it. But I hear your greater point which is that the government should care more about its people especially given the resources and knowledge available. However, allowing government to have more influence pushes back against the way Americans conceptualize freedom and that gets in the way. Honestly if you really think about it, the way Americans obsess about and conceptualize freedom gets in the way of a lot of good ideas and progress.
Jonathan Isaac on why he's not getting the vaccine
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COVID has killed more cops than violence has.the first tweet has nothing to do with the second as there is no age designated and it's common fact that the elderly make up over 90% of covid deaths. I can safely assume the vast majority of those deaths were elderly.
As for the second we need hard numbers. Calling it The 2nd 3rd or 4th leading cause means little if not to sensationalize
As an example It's akin to saying DEATHS HAVE TRIPLED!! Only to find out they went from 2 to 6. Womp
50 percent of the country votes against healthcare reforms
I cant even blame the pharam companies
Who cares about survival %
Biggest issues is hospital
capacity
Look what happened in nyc
Bodies of Hundreds of New York COVID Victims Still in Trucks on Brooklyn Pier
Biggest issues is hospital
capacity
Look what happened in nyc
Bodies of Hundreds of New York COVID Victims Still in Trucks on Brooklyn Pier
Actually6Foot3
Veteran
how many paralyzed by Covid?
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Actually6Foot3
Veteran
vast majority don't get long covid. I don't look know a single person with long covid that had it.
What percentage of young otherwise healthy individuals that recovered had long covid? Please leave the elderly out.
Actually6Foot3
Veteran
that's exactly how I felt about you bringing up Polio in a discussion about covid. You're putting ???? Because I'm trying to bring you back on topic
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That's called anecdotal evidence and it is 100% unreliable.
Do you mind putting an actual percentage to that?
Neo. The Only. The One.
THE ONE
I totally do understand, but the end of the day I can't force a grown adult to something that they don't want to do and neither can you
As I've said before, I can't even convince my siblings to get the vaccine so how do you expect me to convince someone on the internet to do so? I know someone with cancer right now and still won't get the vaccine and there's nothing I can do about it.
Talk about russian roulette
Posts inaccurate stats, repeatedly makes the most ridiculous false equivalencies, and then moves the goalposts when proven wrong. Not to mention constantly trying to suggest "only deaths matter" (cause there's "only" 700,000+ deaths) while ignoring millions more with long hospitalizations and Long Covid and a massive burden on our hospital system and health care workers that is now affecting people who don't even have Covid.
People like you are why I left this site.
That's a made-up stat that isn't accurate at all. All 65+ vaccinated and unvaccinated both are just 76% of vaccine deaths, so "unvaccinated elderly" have to be even less than that.
And even though vaccination is very effective, it CLEARLY is not 100% effective among elderly with weak immune systems. For example, in this study:
So even when elderly people get the vaccine, up to 1/4 of them remain vulnerable to hospitalization. So your claim that young people don't need to get the vaccine to protect elderly folk is complete bullshyt.
You gonna admit that having the whole population vaccinated helps protect the elderly, or you got some new goalposts to jump through?
People like you are why I left this site.
That's a made-up stat that isn't accurate at all. All 65+ vaccinated and unvaccinated both are just 76% of vaccine deaths, so "unvaccinated elderly" have to be even less than that.
And even though vaccination is very effective, it CLEARLY is not 100% effective among elderly with weak immune systems. For example, in this study:
So even when elderly people get the vaccine, up to 1/4 of them remain vulnerable to hospitalization. So your claim that young people don't need to get the vaccine to protect elderly folk is complete bullshyt.
You gonna admit that having the whole population vaccinated helps protect the elderly, or you got some new goalposts to jump through?
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Do you realize its rare for diseases to kill more than maim?that's exactly how I felt about you bringing up Polio in a discussion about covid. You're putting ???? Because I'm trying to bring you back on topic
its like war.
Using this rationale, the only disease to fear is Ebola.
I didn't guess, those numbers came straight from the CDC.
https://data.cdc.gov/widgets/9bhg-hcku?mobile_redirect=true
I'm gonna repeat exactly what I said cause apparently you didn't read it:
Look at that chart. In August/September during the delta surge, Covid was the LEADING cause of death among 35-44 year olds. It was the #2 cause of death among 25-34 and #4 among 15-24. That's crazy high. And that's just deaths, not even counting all the people who have long-term effects without death. Pretending like Covid isn't affecting any young folk is just bullshyt.
If you like hard #'s better, official CDC numbers show that over 44,000 Americans in their 40s or younger have died of Covid-19. And that's just confirmed deaths - the true death toll is almost certainly higher due to people who died of heart attacks, blood clots, etc. without being tested. To put it another way, if you're in your 30s then your risk of dying has increased by about 10% compared to before the pandemic began, if you're in your 40s then it's increased by closer to 15%.
What a useless comparison. Why would you divide the # of young people who died by the # of old people who died? If a million more old people die next month, does that somehow decrease the risk for young people?
You don't compare the chance of young people dying of Covid to the chance of old people dying of Covid, you compare the chance of young people dying of Covid to the chances of young people dying from other shyt. And Covid is now:
* the leading cause of death for 35-44 year olds
* the #2 cause of death for 25-34 year olds
* the #4 cause of death for 15-24 year olds
In 2021 your risks of dying if you're in your 30s or 40s has increased 10-15%, the greatest jump in our lifetimes. And you want to minimize that shyt and pretend like it doesn't matter when 44,000 people in their 40s or younger have passed away in just 18 months and it ain't stopping cause dumbfukks like you spread antivaxx shyt online.
That's before you even get into unvaxxed folk spreading the pandemic so it lasts longer, fills up hospital ICUs for longer, and leads to more mutations in the long-term so that this shyt is still around when YOU are in your 40s and 50s, even if you could have deaded it 10-20 years earlier just by getting a fukking shot.
Okay, I really am done now. Feel free to move the goalposts yet again and fill up the thread with more made-up numbers and bullshyt comparisons.
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