Julian Castro on Bernie Sanders: He wants to write a big check for everything except reparations.

[Reece]

No it's not simple-minded.

Everybody else is at a positive. We are at a negative. Those things will just put people further ahead of us, just like what affirmative action and the Civil Rights Acts did. We don't need UNIVERSAL policies, we need specific policies. This is the problem with leftism in this country.

It's ran by overly privileged and spoiled White people who all of a sudden realize they ain't getting what they "deserve" from the system that overly benefits them and so they demand things as a collective of Whiteness. It's White needs and White wants, it's not Black needs and wants.

Then they come tell us, "Wouldn't you like free college?"

And when somebody says, "Yeah that's cool but I need stuff for me and my kind because we are different - we are owed a debt."

Then they respond, "DON'T YOU KNOW THERE ARE NEO-NAZIS!?"

If somebody owes you and you say what they owe and they give you something different, that's disrespect.

He's a lost one. I broke the same thing down to him verbatim.

Black people barely have a couple thousand dollars in wealth, most of us are in debt, and a large number of us don't have $1000 to pay for a major emergency whereas whites have $100,000 in median household wealth. And his response is universal policies will help us all The whites that are upset with the system have a sprained ankle. We got shot in the neck. We need more medical attention than them

 

[truth2you]

I like Bernie Sanders, but once I found out he voted to get Reparations for Jews, yet he has a problem for ADOS to get it, I know I won't be voting for him

What kind of selfish shyt is that?!

 

[Donald J Trump]

He's a lost one. I broke the same thing down to him verbatim.

Black people barely have a couple thousand dollars in wealth, most of us are in debt, and a large number of us don't have $1000 to pay for a major emergency whereas whites have $100,000 in median household wealth. And his response is universal policies will help us all The whites that are upset with the system have a sprained ankle. We got shot in the neck. We need more medical attention than them

im convinced hes a troll

 

[Reece]

this guy wants to act like he's some upper echelon political analyst.

You're telling people on a message board they need to figure out all the logistics of reparations before it even gets added onto the agenda.
Then act like that's how the government works. it's fukking not. The government grants laaaarge heaps of money onto projects that might not even fukking work. They don't plot every little detail out. The government is speculative as hell, they've spent millions on trying to control people's minds with LSD, controlling hurricanes to put out fires, trying to see if fukking UFOs are real. If the government worked like you're suggesting, none of those projects would ever have been funded, because the people behind them couldn't possibly provide the same anal-retentive logistics that you're demanding of reparations advocates.

And your whole argument is completely asinine, because at the end of the day - even a little bit of reparation money is better than nothing. If they can't pay them $20 trillion, pay them $10 trillion, if they can't pay $10 trillion, pay them $5 trillon. This isn't a one-time payoff in exchange for not pursuing further civil rights policies. This is just one step in "insuring the domestic tranquility" that was provided by the Constitution.

This whole "I've never said I'm against reparations " shyt you're on is hollow af. Because if you were FOR reparations, you would maybe suggest some solutions. Instead, you just sit there and shoot down everything for being too idealistic before it even gets off the ground.

 

[futureDevelopment]

But Bernie marched with Dr.King or some shyt.

I hold Dr. King in high regard, so yes Sanders would get points for attending the 1963 March on Washington for Jobs and Freedom, where Dr. King gave his "I Have a Dream" speech.

He also gets points in my book for being arrested while pushing for school segregation that year, which was pretty radical thinking for 1963.

You're giving points to Castro for saying he would "look into" reparations in the middle of the campaign trail?

!!!!

I'm glad Bernie Sanders is being honest instead of pandering, which is what Castro is doing.

 

[futureDevelopment]

If you want to see an even more insightful difference between the Sanders and Castro, look at their positions on Venezuela.

Everybody knows the powers that be now have a hard-on for Venezuela. Venezuela is an issue where you'll find all the "liberal" democrats and Trump on the same damn side. And they're all telling the same ultra-weak, insulting lies ("we need to go in and liberate for freedom's sake").

...Ask castro about it, and he indicates we need to go in and "liberate" the venezuelans.

...Ask bernie about it, and he's against going in.

This is an important indicator, because -- again -- it's an issue where the democrats and the republicans are on the same side of the fukkery (and yes, it is fukkery). It's an issue that really lets you know who's who.

Clearly, on that issue Sanders > Castro

What does that issue have to with reparations?

Well, sanders is the democratic frontrunner (in spite of media being hush hush about it) ... so -- by any means necessary -- the powers that be have to either beat sanders (in order to go into venezuela) OR keep trump in the WH (in order to go into venezuela).

And it's not just about venezuela either -- it's also about Iran, Trump's tax cuts, robbing you of universal health care -- there's a whole program and agenda the corporatists are trying to protect.

They know trump is vulnerable, but they HAVE TO keep a corporatist in the white house by either electing a corporatist democrat or splitting the democratic vote into oblivion.

That's where this "reparations" talk comes in -- a trick to keep corporatists in control by any means necessary (and blame YOU in the end). Don't be a rube.

BERNIE 2020.
Because Universal Health Care and free higher education ARE tangibles, unlike a campaign promise for "a commission" to "look into" reparations...

 

[Wild self]

The whole reparations movement should have popped off when Obama was in office. A smart strategy THEN was to guilt-trip his wife Michelle on why Black Americans deserve reparations.

But people are too slow and reactive, and wait till fascist dictator Trump is in office BEFORE they pop it off. They too scared to even talk to Trump for reparations because he will scold Black America like babies while put judges on circuit courts and the Supreme Court that will make reparations for black Americans "unconstitutional". All the while giving Trump a bigger edge in the 2020 elections that will forever doom the possibly of getting Reparations.

IF people believe in it so much, they would double down on voting and group economics, WHILE pressuring Trump and not just any random Democrat. But people are half-assing their message and have selective anger management issues while racist conservative CACs laugh when they trying to maintain a stronghold for another generation.

Ask for Trump for that check. Ask him NOW.

 

[3rdWorld]

Bernie is no different to any old White man..they're all the same in varying degrees. Whether Bill Clinton or Joe Biden, they have all shat on us.

Bottom line is that White people over 65 were conditioned from birth to see Blacks as undeserving of anything, no matter how liberal they may naturally be.
They cannot separate themselves from their core upbringing.
Trust an old White man as if you were just born last week brehs..

 

[futureDevelopment]

Specific legislation and programs are needed to help lift Black people. Medicare for All and "free" college isn't going to do that.

Health care and free education isn't going to help black people?

Damn -- people dapped that statement?



Your boss should own the healthcare your newborn depends on?




There should be a financial barrier between your kids and 21st century job training?



You're waiting for someone to "lift" you, yet you don't have enough wherewithal, focus and initiative to get a klansman up out of the whitehouse.



Let's help those who are ready to help themselves.

BERNIE 2020
Universal Healthcare -- like all other 21st-century first-world countries ALREADY have (including countries getting lots of $$ from the US in foreign aid!)
Free Higher Education -- because lifelong education and job training is necessary for your kids in an era in which technology is changing so quickly

 

[futureDevelopment]

Not a Bernie bro but folks been misrepresenting him on reparations when all he's guilty of is raising valid questions about the specifics of reparations. Even on here for all the talk on ADOS and reparations, there's been very little talk on specifics. I'm not certain reparations should even be an agenda worth fighting for if you dont have any idea about what it is you demand. There at least needs to be some consensus on the subject. You cant demand something that hasn't been specified.

And just look at the timing of all this "reparations" talk! It's just designed to keep the klansman in office and leave black people looking stupid.

 

[futureDevelopment]

Rather you follow Tariq or not, the whole idea that policies like M4A are trickle down economics comes from his politically ignorant ass and is not based on any facts or data. Just a cool term that can be repeated and dumbasses can spout and believe without thinking critically.

M4A is not a farce. It is working for every other country that is using it with way better outcomes than the US has ever produced.

As far as immigration, immigration in this country is already in check. The US's immigration issue is just a dogwhistle that is overblown by the right wing to give people something to be scared about and a set of people to look down upon instead of the powerfully rich who the gov't has created a welfare state for through right wing policy.

Undocumented immigration is at a 12 year low. Arrests at the border is at a 50 year low. There is no correlation between immigration and unemployment rates. And lastly, non citizens are LESS LIKELY to use government assistance programs.

Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...these-charts-prove-it/?utm_term=.13a03322f572

Good points. Not only that, but immigration and what the government does for its citizens are SEPARATE ISSUES.

Personally I don't mind if the feds cracked down on illegals (BY GOING HARD AFTER THE PEOPLE WHO HIRE THEM -- something you'll never hear a peep from trump about).

I wouldn't even mind if they got rid of birthright citizenship, if it means getting more people to buy into Medicare for All and free higher education.

Bernie Sanders has come out against illegal immigration in the past, btw. He sees them as undercutting wages and bargaining power for the American worker.

 

[futureDevelopment]

The median white household has TEN TIMES the wealth of Black and Hispanic households. I've soured on Bernie. He exposed himself and where his true priorities lie. His platform is to appeal to loser ass white people who are upset that they are not benefiting from white privilege in the manner in which they thought they would. Loser white males who thought they'd have high paying jobs, a house in the suburbs far away from nikkas and a nice looking wife (hint: the same people voting for Bernie are also behind The Red Pill/MGTOW/Men's Right movement). His policies are just going to help those whites become successful and widen the racial wealth gap further.

Damn -- that whole bolded paragraph is about Trump's base, not the bernie base. You're way out of touch with reality.

 

[Wild self]

And just look at the timing of all this "reparations" talk! It's just designed to keep the klansman in office and leave black people looking stupid.

Why didnt the reparations talk happen back in 2011 when Obama in office? That was the big mystery for me.

 

[JLova]

Health care and free education isn't going to help black people?

Damn -- people dapped that statement?



Your boss should own the healthcare your newborn depends on?




There should be a financial barrier between your kids and 21st century job training?



You're waiting for someone to "lift" you, yet you don't have enough wherewithal, focus and initiative to get a klansman up out of the whitehouse.



Let's help those who are ready to help themselves.

BERNIE 2020
Universal Healthcare -- like all other 21st-century first-world countries ALREADY have (including countries getting lots of $$ from the US in foreign aid!)
Free Higher Education -- because lifelong education and job training is necessary for your kids in an era in which technology is changing so quickly

Dude actually said a free education won’t help blacks people

This is why we struggle. We do not see the importance of an education And I hate that.

 

[Dameon Farrow]

Bernie is the dead last person to ever put reparations on the table . How familiar with this dude's beliefs do people think they are?