Julian Castro on Bernie Sanders: He wants to write a big check for everything except reparations.

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Compare reparations to pizza, brehs

Get the fukk outta here, fool. :camby:

You're obviously just entirely opposed to the idea.


Actually, I am pro reparations. The irony is you're sticking your nose in a conversation that doesn't involve you.
 

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:mjlol: this guy wants to act like he's some upper echelon political analyst.

You're telling people on a message board they need to figure out all the logistics of reparations before it even gets added onto the agenda.

I NEVER SAID THIS. I am an advocate of HR40 which is a bill that does EXACTLY THIS.

And your whole argument is completely asinine, because at the end of the day - even a little bit of reparation money is better than nothing. If they can't pay them $20 trillion, pay them $10 trillion, if they can't pay $10 trillion, pay them $5 trillon. This isn't a one-time payoff in exchange for not pursuing further civil rights policies. This is just one step in "insuring the domestic tranquility" that was provided by the Constitution.

Take the risk of being short changed on a half assed reparations package so that you can get an non-impactful amount of money so that white people can forever say:

:hubie: "racism is solved, yall got your reparations"

I know what my ancestors did and how much they were worth. You not going to give me pennies on the dollar without a fight, fukk that.


This whole "I've never said I'm against reparations :mjgrin:" shyt you're on is hollow af. Because if you were FOR reparations, you would maybe suggest some solutions. Instead, you just sit there and shoot down everything for being too idealistic before it even gets off the ground.

I have posted solutions all over this forum. Example from today:

Everyone who talks about reparations, but I never hear an actual number?
 

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:mjlol: this guy wants to act like he's some upper echelon political analyst.

You're telling people on a message board they need to figure out all the logistics of reparations before it even gets added onto the agenda.
Then act like that's how the government works. :mjlol: it's fukking not. The government grants laaaarge heaps of money onto projects that might not even fukking work. They don't plot every little detail out. The government is speculative as hell, they've spent millions on trying to control people's minds with LSD, controlling hurricanes to put out fires, trying to see if fukking UFOs are real. If the government worked like you're suggesting, none of those projects would ever have been funded, because the people behind them couldn't possibly provide the same anal-retentive logistics that you're demanding of reparations advocates.

And your whole argument is completely asinine, because at the end of the day - even a little bit of reparation money is better than nothing. If they can't pay them $20 trillion, pay them $10 trillion, if they can't pay $10 trillion, pay them $5 trillon. This isn't a one-time payoff in exchange for not pursuing further civil rights policies. This is just one step in "insuring the domestic tranquility" that was provided by the Constitution.

This whole "I've never said I'm against reparations :mjgrin:" shyt you're on is hollow af. Because if you were FOR reparations, you would maybe suggest some solutions. Instead, you just sit there and shoot down everything for being too idealistic before it even gets off the ground.
preach:mjcry:
 

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Reparations IS different because the cost of the reparations we are owed is MASSIVE and UNPRECENDENTED. We are owed literally 10-20 trillion dollars. That is the amount that it will take to actually improve things for black people collectively. Outside of defense, what is something we spend a comparable amount on? Also you must keep in mind our total GDP for a year is only 19 TRILLION.You can't compare what private companies make and hide to what the government is prepared to spend on non defense related things. It is absolutely laughable to compare reparations with anything else, especially things that cost a couple of billion at most.

Well then they need to pay up now so the bill doesn't get higher. This country can bomb places all over the world and cut checks to rebuild. This country was built off of the cotton trade

#cutthechecks
 

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Again, I have NEVER said I am against reparations or that we do not deserve them. I just disagree with several of the talking points yall use in favor of reparations and the talking points yall use to berate CERTAIN politicians on this issue. I'm sorry but screaming that the Jews got a couple of million, and the Japanese got a couple of billion in one time payments is NOT a good argument due to the cost difference of what we are owed.

The point of that arguement is that the same people that say they are against reparations for ADOS had little to no problem with reparations for different groups. Why be okay with reparations for multiple groups but not ADOS. It’s reeks of hypocrisy and possibly racism. It exposes people. Reparations itself isn’t their problem; reparations for ADOS is their problem.

I am being realistic about why this would be a hard sell politically due to it only being for a select group of people and the sheer COST MAGNITUDE of a meaningful reparations package, if we truly are to get what we are owed.

You can't make political arguments and then try to disregard the way government works and political realities.

Medicare for all was practically a pipe dream 4-5 years ago. Thanks to grassroots efforts and advocacy, it’s not only a political reality but damn near mandatory for a democrat to have a chance of winning. The progressives didn’t wait for the corporate dems approval either; they made it happen themselves.

Every other group does more or less the same thing. ADOS is doing just that. The fact that we are discussing reparations this early in 2019 and that several presidential candidates have been asked about it is a vast improvement from 2016. It will only get bigger as time goes on.
 
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The point of that arguement is that the same people that say they are against reparations for ADOS had little to no problem with respirations for different groups. Why be okay with reparations for multiple groups but not this particular group. It’s hypocrisy and very likely racism as well. It exposes people. Reparations itself isn’t their problem; reparations for ADOS is their problem.



Medicare for all was practically a pipe dream 4-5 years ago. Thanks to grassroots efforts and advocacy, it’s not only a political reality but damn near mandatory for a democrat to have a chance of winning. The progressives didn’t wait for the corporate dems approval either; they made it happen themselves.

Every other group does more or less the same thing. ADOS is doing just that. The fact that we are discussing reparations this early in 2019 and that several presidential candidates have been asked about it is a vast improvement from 2016. It will only get bigger as time goes on.

I am FOR reparations so telling me this is preaching to the choir. However, do not compare reparations for blacks to reparations for other groups. It is not that simple. Reparations for ADOS will cost damn near an entire years worth of the US’s GDP. The Japanese got 2 billion. Reparations for blacks will literally cost upwards to 10 thousand times more than that.
 

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I am FOR reparations so telling me this is preaching to the choir. However, do not compare reparations for blacks to reparations for other groups. It is not that simple. Reparations for ADOS will cost damn near an entire years worth of the US’s GDP. The Japanese got 2 billion. Reparations for blacks will literally cost upwards to 10 thousand times more than that.

If complexity was the big issue, then HR 40 would’ve already passed by now. We would be debating the roadmap and how big/complex it really would be.

We haven’t even gone that far because reparations hasn’t been advocated for in a long time outside of selective circles and due to anti-black bias. ADOS pushed the issue to the forefront. If not now, then when?
 

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If complexity was the big issue, then HR 40 would’ve already passed by now. We would be debating the roadmap and how big/complex it really would be.

We haven’t even gone that far because reparations hasn’t been advocated for in a long time outside of selective circles. ADOS pushed the issue to the forefront. If not now, then when?

Again you are preaching to the choir. I have no problem with the pursuit of reparations. But let's stop parading terrible arguments to do so.

This is the only argument that needs to be made: Black descendants of slavery deserve to be repaid for the atrocities that happened to us. PERIOD. Simple. Everyone agrees with this. When you start shytting on other groups, spreading misinformation, and talk about not voting as a way to achieve this, that's when you lose me.

HR 40 hasn't been passed because we have never had a majority big enough to pass it in congress, especially since ALL republicans would be united against it. None of the arguments being had addresses this simple fact.
 

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Again you are preaching to the choir. I have no problem with the pursuit of reparations. But let's stop parading terrible arguments to do so.

This is the only argument that needs to be made: Black descendants of slavery deserve to be repaid for the atrocities that happened to us. PERIOD. Simple. Everyone agrees with this. When you start shytting on other groups, spreading misinformation, and talk about not voting as a way to achieve this, that's when you lose me.

HR 40 hasn't been passed because we have never had a majority big enough to pass it in congress, especially since ALL republicans would be united against it. None of the arguments being had addresses this simple fact.
Spreading misinfo like you been doing in all the ados threads :dead:
 

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Spreading misinfo like you been doing in all the ados threads :dead:

Everything I say is based on sourced facts. All the things you say are simple catch phrases and other bullshyt you learned from other simpletons like Tariq Nasheed that you use for daps.
 

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Everything I say is based on sourced facts. All the things you say are simple catch phrases and other bullshyt you learned from other simpletons like Tariq Nasheed that you use for daps.
you got exposed for saying african family members didnt sell each to cacs during slavery

and your “how do we pay for reparations” narrative got debunked

bu bu but everything you say is sourced facts :russ:
 

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I lied on some Eddie Guerrero shyt. I said I wouldn't address this thread again but I didn't realize they were un-bushing Napoleon.

If you're unfamiliar with Napoleon, he's the poster with this avatar:
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And this name: ∆y = f(∆x)

In the recent past, this piece of garbage has said "fukk Africa" and has also said "Let's give White Nationalists what they want."

Receipts are readily available. I don't feel like finding them right now because we've been over this many times. Word on the street is that he threatened to kill himself if Brook ever permanently banned him.

So we're talking about an individual who is willing to die for the opportunity to post "fukk Africa" on The Coli. Think about that. Let that sink in.
 

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I've asked this of several people and gotten only one (non-definitive) answer: Do you believe that the Democrat nominee for president would WIN if they have reparations for black folks as a specific, explicit part of their platform? Do you believe enough white, Hispanic, and Asian voters would stick with the Dem nominee in that scenario?

@DEAD7 was the only person who would even answer and he didn't even say yes, he just said it's possible.

I support reparations for slavery, Jim Crow, and all the evil that whites have done since then. But would the Democrat win in 2020 if that's an official campaign promise from them? I do not believe so.

Members of ADOS gang here have already admitted that they want Trump re-elected to "punish" America. Castro and Oprah's spiritual advisor (:mjlol:) are not serious candidates. They stand no chance of getting the nomination. At all. They are hitting Bernie with friendly fire because he is the most popular candidate declared and the wealthy donor class is scared to death of him. Biden is waiting in the wings if this attempt to squeeze Bernie out works.

NO ONE will ask Biden about reparations. And if someone somehow does, he'll give the same bullshyt hand-waving non-answer Obama gave in 2008.

And again, I SUPPORT reparations. I believe it can be accomplished but it has to be on the sly or else Cacs, Latinos, and Asians will allow Orange Hitler to get re-elected in '20. If that happens, Trump will be able to stack the supreme court with fascists so they can rule reparations is unconstitutional. Then there will NEVER be reparations.

It's chess, not "fukk that, Bernie and only Bernie needs to promise money to black people and only black people so he can lose."

And that's all I'm going to say in this thread because we've learned recently that TLR is full of Germans pretending to be black militants. :russ:

In 2008, it was "Barack can't run on Reparations because whites are scared enough electing the first Black President. He has to be careful. Wait until he's in office."

In 2012, it was "Barack doesn't have to give us Reparations because he's the President of America, not Black America. Stop crying and looking for handouts. BTW, vote for me again this Fall."

In 2016, Obama was basically like "Black people, I need yall to put away your grievances with the Democratic party and make sure Hilary wins. This is bigger than the Black community. You can't let that man win. He will try to undo everything I started :sadcam: I'm sorry for all shyt before :sadcam:

In 2020, it's "Bernie can't piss off his white constituents and you know that. Stop trying to divide the party. The important thing is to get Trump out of office. Then he'll help Blacks. Maybe."

Meanwhile Jews getting money, Palestinians getting money, Gays and Hispanics getting money. Bernie's whole platform is basically Reparations for blue collar whites. They about to get money too :wow: They playing us like the Chappelle prostitute joke. They gonna still be talking that maybe later shyt in 2045. If these "Liberal Progressive" crackers are THAT racist that they'll let Trump....the worst most corrupt most criminal President in US history, win a second term before they let Blacks get reparations.....then they will never be for it :wow:And if that's the case, what incentive do WE have to give a fukk about what they want?
 
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