Just trying to get our Coli Rating Up - Miami Heat Season thread 2015/16

[intruder]

............. That explains it all. U literally just don't know what the hell u are talking about. Your status as the WOAT has been removed. Thanks for participating sir.

Hey Hey hey! I wanted that!

Look at my screename and read what's immediately below it. It's been there for years.

 

[Biscayne]

Dont pay attention to the clones, @Meh .

THey're mad because im being realistic. They like to daydream about Beasley coming in and averaging 32 mins and dropping 20 ppg or some sh!t if Spo ever let him play. BUt i remind them i seen Beasley for the clown he is and wrote him off since his second season when we lost to Boston in the playoffs. This one play totally made me lose respect for that f@ggot. I know it's easy to fall in love with young players who have great potential. But i learned my Lesson with Harold Miner.

Speaking of Spo they want to see that mofo get run over by a bus so Riley can replace him. I'll admit that i dont care for Spo either but it's not his substitution patterns (which most of the clones hate him for) that bother me the most. But being a realistic person I just dont see Riley firing his protege over any little thing so i save my energy rather than b!tch about every little thing. I prefer to fight the battles i CAN win. Besides Spo isnt as bad as some of them make it seem. I still want him fired but lets not act like we got great coaches falling off trees.

So if @DetroitEWarren needs someone to wear that "worst Heat Fan" hat because i do NOT over-celebrate every bullsh!t win, cry after every loss, get my hopes too high on Winslow or ignore WhiteSide's flaws then thats fine with me. I'll be the vilain. I'll do "that so hopefully you wont have to go through that"

I just think we've been spoiled as Heat fans. We've had too much success in the last 10yrs to consider firing anyone. Spo's a young, progressive coach in the scheme of things. He went small before the Small-Ball movement exploded. I never saw the point in firing Spo. We've had one bad season so far, since LBJ left. And when LBJ was here, Spo damn near out coached Popovich in the 2013 Finals. Adjustment's were on point for every game that series. We just need to be satisfied with the way things are in the organization. We need to stop bringing that Dolphins fan mentality to this winning organization.

 

[havoc]

Who knew running would bring out the best in Deng.

It always has been part of his game.

 

[He Who Posts Well]

It always has been part of his game.

I always thought it was coming off screens and moving without the ball. I just never thought of Deng as a player that fits an uptempo offense

 

[intruder]

I just think we've been spoiled as Heat fans. We've had too much success in the last 10yrs to consider firing anyone. Spo's a young, progressive coach in the scheme of things. He went small before the Small-Ball movement exploded. I never saw the point in firing Spo. We've had one bad season so far, since LBJ left. And when LBJ was here, Spo damn near out coached Popovich in the 2013 Finals. Adjustment's were on point for every game that series. We just need to be satisfied with the way things are in the organization. We need to stop bringing that Dolphins fan mentality to this winning organization.

I agree for the most part but i still feel that the team can use a better coach.

Im not a Spo hater like most of the Heat fans in here. Dude is a decent coach. Just not very good at developing young players which our roster is full of these days. Then again, neither was Riley. But Spo is far from the worst coach in the league as some of the clones make it seem. If anything Spo is well respected among coaches in the league. The problem is Spo will always get the benefit of a doubt from Riley since Riley hand-picked him as his protege to be his successor. It's like deciding to fire your own son.

 

[Ain't That Something]

I just think we've been spoiled as Heat fans. We've had too much success in the last 10yrs to consider firing anyone. Spo's a young, progressive coach in the scheme of things. He went small before the Small-Ball movement exploded. I never saw the point in firing Spo. We've had one bad season so far, since LBJ left. And when LBJ was here, Spo damn near out coached Popovich in the 2013 Finals. Adjustment's were on point for every game that series. We just need to be satisfied with the way things are in the organization. We need to stop bringing that Dolphins fan mentality to this winning organization.

In my opinion he damn near lost us that series in game 6 when he inserted Wade in the reigning mn of the 4th, but I will also concede to not being a BBALL savant

 

[OfTheCross]

I agree for the most part but i still feel that the team can use a better coach.

Im not a Spo hater like most of the Heat fans in here. Dude is a decent coach. Just not very good at developing young players which our roster is full of these days. Then again, neither was Riley. But Spo is far from the worst coach in the league as some of the clones make it seem. If anything Spo is well respected among coaches in the league. The problem is Spo will always get the benefit of a doubt from Riley since Riley hand-picked him as his protege to be his successor. It's like deciding to fire your own son.

Not good at developing young players tho?

He got the most out of Chalmers, Cole, this year with White, Richardson and Winslow. Was Wade's main coach when he first came in and got the most out of that Odom, Caron, Wade and the other Butler squad.

If anything, I think Spo loves running and playing with young guys.

One of his flaws might be that he over adjusts to the rosters he's given.

He doesn't have an Offensive "system" that the GM builds around he works with what he's got

 

[DetroitEWarren]

Not good at developing young players tho?

He got the most out of Chalmers, Cole, this year with White, Richardson and Winslow. Was Wade's main coach when he first came in and got the most out of that Odom, Caron, Wade and the other Butler squad.

If anything, I think Spo loves running and playing with young guys.

One of his flaws might be that he over adjusts to the rosters he's given.

He doesn't have an Offensive "system" that the GM builds around he works with what he's got

I'm just not.................. Man fukk it lol, Wade, Butler, Odom, was not coached by Riley or Spo. Stan Van came Wade's 2nd year and was only there til mid season of 06. Spo did not coach Wade until 08 breh. Y'all nikkas blowed lol.

 

[WaddupDoe!]

so are we going to sign Kevin Martin?

 

[OfTheCross]

I'm just not.................. Man fukk it lol, Wade, Butler, Odom, was not coached by Riley or Spo. Stan Van came Wade's 2nd year and was only there til mid season of 06. Spo did not coach Wade until 08 breh. Y'all nikkas blowed lol.

So we just gonna pretend Spo wasn't the asst. coach during that time? His work with DWade is publicized. Even if you don't want to give him credit from those Asst. Coach days he did help with the rest of the guys I mentioned.

Point being, I disagree with the notion that he's not good at developing young players. He's good at developing players, period. LeBron is the biggest example of that, I think.

 

[intruder]

Not good at developing young players tho?

He got the most out of Chalmers, Cole, this year with White, Richardson and Winslow. Was Wade's main coach when he first came in and got the most out of that Odom, Caron, Wade and the other Butler squad.

If anything, I think Spo loves running and playing with young guys.

One of his flaws might be that he over adjusts to the rosters he's given.

He doesn't have an Offensive "system" that the GM builds around he works with what he's got

I will NOT give Riley or Spo credit for "developing" Wade.

Wade was a beast from the start and was bound to be a star. Sure I'll give Riley credit for picking Wade when everyone else was sold on Chris Kaman. In that draft Riley said his draft board was LeBron #1, Bosh#2, Wade #3, Carmelo #4. When Lebron and Bosh were gone he snatched Wade.
What's next we;re gonna give Del Harris credit for Kobe?
I believe great players eventually come into their own. Not saying they dont get any help from good coaching to further develop their game but in no way am i ready to give coaches too much credit when they have a cant-miss star fall on their laps.

And i disagree with Cole. I didnt see much difference between him as a rookie and his last year with us at all. And Spo didnt coach Odom or Caron Butler. Spo became coach after Shaq left, remember? Chalmers? Maybe ...
But let's not act like Chalmers improved THAT much unde Spo either. Dude just fell into a rol that fit him and he thrived in it

I'm just not.................. Man fukk it lol, Wade, Butler, Odom, was not coached by Riley or Spo. Stan Van came Wade's 2nd year and was only there til mid season of 06. Spo did not coach Wade until 08 breh. Y'all nikkas blowed lol.

You mean Caron Butler's 2nd year. Not Wade's. Stan coached Wade's first year.

That summer we signed went after Elton Brand and wound up with Odom. We then drafted Wade...I think

 

[Primetime21]

Not good at developing young players tho?

He got the most out of Chalmers, Cole, this year with White, Richardson and Winslow. Was Wade's main coach when he first came in and got the most out of that Odom, Caron, Wade and the other Butler squad.

If anything, I think Spo loves running and playing with young guys.

One of his flaws might be that he over adjusts to the rosters he's given.

He doesn't have an Offensive "system" that the GM builds around he works with what he's got

Chalmers is a career jekyll-hyde player with big nuts, Spo didn't coach him up. Cole had a spark when he started. Riley already admitted Whiteside is self-made, much of the credit for his continued development has to go to Juwan, that and Whiteside is an extremely hardworker. The knock on Spo has always been the in game adjustments, no one doubts this guy can sit down watch hours of film and devise a good x's and o's gameplan. That's how he got his start.

 

[Primetime21]

so are we going to sign Kevin Martin?

don't think we can sign anybody until the last week of the season since no one claimed Udrih. Dorrell Wright is a name that makes the most sense I believe, I can't see a Marcus Thorton or Kevin Martin type waiting around that long

 

[intruder]

don't think we can sign anybody until the last week of the season since no one claimed Udrih. Dorrell Wright is a name that makes the most sense I believe, I can't see a Marcus Thorton or Kevin Martin type waiting around that long

I'd take Dorell Wright if we could.
I liked the kid even tho he was kind of a disappointment to me but thats mainly because Pat Riley set the bar too high (compared him to T-Mac on draft night) but he was cool

 

[intruder]

Chalmers is a career jekyll-hyde player with big nuts, Spo didn't coach him up. Cole had a spark when he started. Riley already admitted Whiteside is self-made, much of the credit for his continued development has to go to Juwan, that and Whiteside is an extremely hardworker. The knock on Spo has always been the in game adjustments, no one doubts this guy can sit down watch hours of film and devise a good x's and o's gameplan. That's how he got his start.

Yep

Chalmers just has guts and believes in himself. But i'll give them SOME credit because Chalmers was horrible at the PG position coming in. Hell i even liked the Aroyo and Chris Quinn better than Chalmers. Chalmers back then lacked court vision. And the fact that he dribbled with his halfway down like Clyde Drexler didnt help either. But by year 3 you could see the improvement.

So i'll give Spo some credit for Chalmers if any.

The one thing i have always given Spo credit for: He is not afraid to tear down his own system and rebuild it and tailor it to the players he has. Remember after 2010 dude completely overhauled his approach especially on offense coming in with the whole "position-less backetball" concept after consulting with Chip Kelly. Coaches are creatures of habit and they tend to hang onto their systems forever and refuse to change. I'll give himprops for willing tear it down and start over like he did.