Kendrick Lamar Keeps Progressing...While Drake Isn't

[Danktoker94]

I agree

 

[NoChillJones]

Drake is pioneering international music , do you know how much love he gets globally?

Biting is not pioneering breh...its wave jumping and dikk ryding.....

 

[Knowledge]

His superior singing vocals

 

[FOUR_ONE_TWO]

4pm In Calabaas, 2 Birds 1 Stone and Do Not Disturb are some of my favourite Drake rap songs ever.

I feel like it's just a cool internet thing to hate Drake and they're tired of dudes aggresive success over the years. People purposely trying to donwplay the levels

Those songs are cool and everything, but how are they any different LYRICALLY than his past songs?

Drake fans love to use that "he makes good overall music" crutch to distract us from the fact that he really hasn't improved since his inception, lyrically that is. He's not better than Cole or Kendrick, and I'll take it a step further and say he's not even better than 2nd tier guys like Sean, Wale, Ross, ect.

Again, this is bar for bar. Not a hitmaking contest.

 

[Neuromancer]

Oh yeah, what instrument does Drake play again?

The check book.

 

[BocaRear]

Those songs are cool and everything, but how are they any different LYRICALLY than his past songs?

Drake fans love to use that "he makes good overall music" crutch to distract us from the fact that he really hasn't improved since his inception, lyrically that is. He's not better than Cole or Kendrick, and I'll take it a step further and say he's not even better than 2nd tier guys like Sean, Wale, Ross, ect.

Again, this is bar for bar. Not a hitmaking contest.

What do you mean by lyrically he hasn't progressed?
Do you determine lyrical progression by double/triple entendres and multisyllables?
If so then you've missed the point of being lyrical.
The point of lyrics are fundamentally to convey a message.
Drake is lyrical in the sense that he can successfully convey messages to his listeners that actually feel genuinely introspective; that's why so many connect with Drake's music.
I don't think there's anyone in hip-hop right now that is as lyrically introspective as Drake.

 

[Neuromancer]

To hip hop forum nerds moreso. In real life hip hop listeners still enjoying Drake rap in their cars, parties etc.

It's like you guys live in some alternate universe sometimes.

Hip hop listerners or radio listerners? There is a big difference a listerner of a handful of rap albums does not a hip-hop fan make

 

[Neuromancer]

What do you mean by lyrically he hasn't progressed?
Do you determine lyrical progression by double/triple entendres and multisyllables?
If so then you've missed the point of being lyrical.
The point of lyrics are fundamentally to convey a message.
Drake is lyrical in the sense that he can successfully convey messages to his listeners that actually feel genuinely introspective; that's why so many connect with Drake's music.
I don't think there's anyone in hip-hop right now that is as lyrically introspective as Drake.

I'd disagree. I'd say Childish Gambino's first album is more lyrically introspective than Drake's whole catalogue. I don't believe the stories Drake is telling much less what he's talking about.

 

[xelp]

Drake would progress more if Kendrick ghost wrote for him.

Someone start an Internet petition or get a trend going on twitter (insert any other lame social media movement). Let's make it happen!

 

[The Ruler 09]

Kendrick's an artist, Drake is just a marketing brand.

 

[FOUR_ONE_TWO]

What do you mean by lyrically he hasn't progressed?
Do you determine lyrical progression by double/triple entendres and multisyllables?
If so then you've missed the point of being lyrical.
The point of lyrics are fundamentally to convey a message.
Drake is lyrical in the sense that he can successfully convey messages to his listeners that actually feel genuinely introspective; that's why so many connect with Drake's music.
I don't think there's anyone in hip-hop right now that is as lyrically introspective as Drake.

People relate to Drake because he talks about surface level shyt. Not because he's a deep individual.

I'm not saying he's garbage, because he's definitely not. But how is 2 Birds, One Stone and Do No Disturb any different than say 30 For 30 or (to take it back further) his verse on Aston Martin Music? There's nothing that's super different or better than the bars he was already spitting.

 

[The G.O.D II]

Drake is more than a rapper. He's a musician. The way you're framing this is very loaded.
When you use the word progressing, drake is constantly progressing and incorporating different sounds into his music.
This 'playing it safe' and 'stagnation' talk is absolutely ridiculous.
Drake singlehandedly brought Grime to a US audience. Drake implements elements of Afrobeats and Dancehall in his sound.

The culture follows Drake, just look at that new French Montana single.

Kendrick generally plays it safe and feeds the 'muh real hip hop' fans but Drake is always reinventing his sound

This is actually a well thought out and articulate point. Although I will say Kendrick does not play it safe. Most artist would not release a TPAB

 

[Concerning VIolence]

Drake is lyrical in the sense that he can successfully convey messages to his listeners that actually feel genuinely introspective; that's why so many connect with Drake's music.

Only if you're a teenage girl.

 

[mobbinfms]

Drake is both a rapper and a singer and does both on the same track.
Your question is loaded because you're solely asking how Drake is progressing as a rapper whereas the question in OP was "is kendrick progressing while drake isn't?"
So let's break this down.
"Progressing" in regards to what exactly?
Are we talking numbers, critical acclaim or what?

How is asking how a rapper has progressed as a rapper a loaded question? :prodigylol:
I really need to explain to you what it means to progress as a rapper? :pdahellclean:
And all you can think of is sales and critics acclaim :pwhitehat:
Has he progressed like Dre did from Southernplayalistic to ATLiens?
Like :pdahellclean:from Juvenile Hell to Infamous? Then from Infamous to Hell On Earth?
Like Jay went from rapping like the Fu Shnickens then heard Illmatic and switched his style to RD?
Is the flow sharpening? Are the lyrics getting better? Is he tackling other subjects? Executing concept tracks? Making concept albums?
Anything? :prodigylol:

 

[mobbinfms]

To hip hop forum nerds moreso. In real life hip hop listeners still enjoying Drake rap in their cars, parties etc.

It's like you guys live in some alternate universe sometimes.

Sounds like you are taking about casual fans here.