Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

[The Radiant One]

It's because when some men disagree with any of KS talking points they get called

Simp
Weak
Dense
Lame
Pandering
White Knight
Etc.

Just look in this thread, people get attacked for having a differing view point.

KS doesn't need anyone to defend him. But fans clearly ride to his rescue almost anytime his viewpoint is challenged. The "Daddy" stuff is a response to his rabid fanbase.

The only people I've seen defend him like that are people who look up up to him. I don't know anyone that has mentors or a real father that looks up to KS, so that's probably where the names come from.

He's no one to emulate from a life perspective unless you're in entertainment.

Plenty of people look up to him same with football players and rappers. They don't get the "daddy" argument. If you pulled the same shyt with a black woman people will say you hate all black women.

Plenty of people attack him in this thread with he's gay and so and so but yet this thread does these numbers.

 

[Treblemaka]

Plenty of people look up to him same with football players and rappers. They don't get the "daddy" argument. If you pulled the same shyt with a black woman people will say you hate all black women.

Plenty of people attack him in this thread with he's gay and so and so but yet this thread does these numbers.

Sure people look up to him, the question is why? Does he espouse any new information? No
Does his relationship advice work? Not in his own life, he's twice divorced.

I dont have an issue with KS. He's the black Phil Donahue. Go get your money. My issue is with his fanbase. Its clear most of his callers male and female dont have their shxt together. So he's not doing an effective job educating as he claims is his goal. Why do his fans feel the desire to defend him so vehemently? That's where the root of the "daddy" argument comes from.

It's like some his fans are acolytes the way they defend him.

 

[Rayzah]

Sure people look up to him, the question is why? Does espouse any new information? No
Does his relationship advice work? Not in his own life, he's twice divorced.

I dont have an issue with KS. He's the black Phil Donahue. Go get your money. My issue is with his fanbase. Its clear most of his callers male and female dont have their shxt together. So he's not doing an effective job educating as he claims is his goal. Why do his fans feel the desire to defend him so vehemently? That's where the root of the "daddy" argument comes from.

It's like some his fans are acolytes the way they defend him.

Uhhh how can you say his advice isn’t working? Because he made mistakes I’m his past? Maybe that’s why he is giving advice since he has learned for his mistakes?

why is it that anyone that disagrees with him have to attack the people that agree?

why is it that we have to not have our shyt together or lack male role models?

why are y’all so quick to try to lump him in with the celebrity tv personalities to discredit his point?

it’s one thing to debate a point of view he said with a logical counter argument but none of his detractors do anything but name call and try to give him a goofy label to discredit him.

For the 25373389th which one of his talking points do you not agree with and why?
If you too good or too busy to respond with a well thought out counter argument then why are you here

 

[Apollo Creed]

Sure people look up to him, the question is why? Does espouse any new information? No
Does his relationship advice work? Not in his own life, he's twice divorced.

I dont have an issue with KS. He's the black Phil Donahue. Go get your money. My issue is with his fanbase. Its clear most of his callers male and female dont have their shxt together. So he's not doing an effective job educating as he claims is his goal. Why do his fans feel the desire to defend him so vehemently? That's where the root of the "daddy" argument comes from.

It's like some his fans are acolytes the way they defend him.

breh why are you even here? Go wash ya face

 

[Red11]

Sure people look up to him, the question is why? Does espouse any new information? No
Does his relationship advice work? Not in his own life, he's twice divorced.

I dont have an issue with KS. He's the black Phil Donahue. Go get your money. My issue is with his fanbase. Its clear most of his callers male and female dont have their shxt together. So he's not doing an effective job educating as he claims is his goal. Why do his fans feel the desire to defend him so vehemently? That's where the root of the "daddy" argument comes from.

It's like some his fans are acolytes the way they defend him.

ehhh…I doubt he was living like this when married (2x). The rest sure.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

This is why the women in our community is out of order...



Imagine a man walking up to a woman at the gas station whipping out his Johnson

In black women's defense, she is clearly a sex worker. Are you saying that all black women should be represented by sex workers?

 

[Apollo Creed]

In black women's defense, she is clearly a sex worker. Are you saying that all black women should be represented by sex workers?

lets look at the number that promote them then ask yourself again

 

[semicko82]

Sure people look up to him, the question is why? Does espouse any new information? No
Does his relationship advice work? Not in his own life, he's twice divorced.

I dont have an issue with KS. He's the black Phil Donahue. Go get your money. My issue is with his fanbase. Its clear most of his callers male and female dont have their shxt together. So he's not doing an effective job educating as he claims is his goal. Why do his fans feel the desire to defend him so vehemently? That's where the root of the "daddy" argument comes from.

It's like some his fans are acolytes the way they defend him.

Phil Donahue is an odd comparison

 

[Treblemaka]

Uhhh how can you say his advice isn’t working? Because he made mistakes I’m his past? Maybe that’s why he is giving advice since he has learned for his mistakes?

why is it that anyone that disagrees with him have to attack the people that agree?

why is it that we have to not have our shyt together or lack male role models?

why are y’all so quick to try to lump him in with the celebrity tv personalities to discredit his point?

it’s one thing to debate a point of view he said with a logical counter argument but none of his detractors do anything but name call and try to give him a goofy label to discredit him.

For the 25373389th which one of his talking points do you not agree with and why?
If you too good or too busy to respond with a well thought out counter argument then why are you here

Your tone is adversarial and is in absolutes, which makes for very little nuance.

His advice isn't working because men and women are still calling in with the same toxic tropes years after he went viral. I expect that 5 years from now he will still have the same callers with the same problems. That isn't growth. His show attracts toxic callers. Why is that?

I said specifically I dont have an issue with him and have an issue with the vitriol of some of his fanbase.

The reason I don't believe most of his listeners people have legit mentors is because if they did they likely wouldn't seek a man on Youtube they don't know, who hasn't qualified himself, and cannot tailor his advice for their individual situations.

I understand some people find it entertaining but those people likely aren't the ones taking life advice from an unproven stranger on the internet.

Phil Donahue is an odd comparison

Maybe Jerry Springer is more accurate.

KS interviews misfits in a way he has total control over for entertainment of the masses. If he had to rely solely on his hour long diatribes he'd probably lose half his subscriber base.

 

[Kiyoshi-Dono]

It's because when some men disagree with any of KS talking points they get called

Simp
Weak
Dense
Lame
Pandering
White Knight
Etc.

Just look in this thread, people get attacked for having a differing view point.

KS doesn't need anyone to defend him. But fans clearly ride to his rescue almost anytime his viewpoint is challenged. The "Daddy" stuff is a response to his rabid fanbase.

The only people I've seen defend him like that are people who look up up to him. I don't know anyone that has mentors or a real father that looks up to KS, so that's probably where the names come from.

He's no one to emulate from a life perspective unless you're in entertainment.

Alot of men have a scarcity mindset when it comes to females. The only reason these types even have a Girlfriend is because they have no other consistent way of getting sex without direct payment.

Any man who's primary desire for a woman revolves around sex rather than his grand design or purpose is on some lame shxt.

- He's lame because he can't pull quality woman
- He's lame because he doesn't see a woman's value extending past her sexual offering
- He's lame because his primary focus is on women instead of his life goals.

But you have a problem with what he says
No it’s nikkas like you who speak with a forked tongue that’s a problem
You out here having bad faith arguments
Meanwhile you will back door with the same logic
You supposedly hate
Math ain’t adding up sir
It’s one thing to have a dissenting argument
Of course breh dances in the rain on some of his own viewpoints(like you did)
But the daddy stuff is clear language to dismiss viewpoints when you actually have none to combat in debate
It’s funny seeing the one weirdo nikka every so often in this thread
That comes out and says the things you said
Then be up in another thread switching the flow up
Never consistent in thought
Never consistent in post
Almost like a woman
But I digress
If you are easily this offended by breh
Then I know you haven’t been around any older black men in your life
Everything he has said is light weight compared to my OGs
He is actually trying to get women to become marriage minded
Fix their issues
Start actually evaluating and putting together a life plan
Reprogram the bullshyt they see across all social media platforms
That got them out here looking terrible as a whole(not just black women)
Understand that if you are shooting for a high earning man
Just be prepared to compete because he is a commodity
Recognize there are men out here just as average as they are
Looking for love and commitment and it’s nothing wrong with just being average
The connotation with that word is a whole other argument many people aren’t ready for
To conclude
We got to this point because men have been holding their tongues for so long
Go along to get along
Now men are like fukk that
Speaking up and defending themselves
Not wrecking their bodies and spirit for an ungrateful woman
It’s truly funny how women have had these spaces for years(continuously) to shyt on men, harbor shytty hot takes across all media platforms
Espouse(your word) bad faith arguments and advice
But as soon as a man stands up and says what ALL men have felt at one point in their life
It’s met with more resistance than a booty band workout
That’s truly perplexing to me
You can’t even acknowledge that yourself about the bullshyt men have had dumped over their heads for years
Especially black boys, which is telling of your character as a man
Just like Ryan Davis(who got a whole ass male roommate at his old ass age with children)
That shyt is predatory and white knighting because men know men
Coddling women has done society no good at all but let you tell it

 

[Treblemaka]

But you have a problem with what he says
No it’s nikkas like you who speak with a forked tongue that’s a problem
You out here having bad faith arguments
Meanwhile you will back door with the same logic
You supposedly hate
Math ain’t adding up sir
It’s one thing to have a dissenting argument
Of course breh dances in the rain on some of his own viewpoints(like you did)
But the daddy stuff is clear language to dismiss viewpoints when you actually have none to combat in debate
It’s funny seeing the one weirdo nikka every so often in this thread
That comes out and says the things you said
Then be up in another thread switching the flow up
Never consistent in thought
Never consistent in post
Almost like a woman
But I digress
If you are easily this offended by breh
Then I know you haven’t been around any older black men in your life
Everything he has said is light weight compared to my OGs
He is actually trying to get women to become marriage minded
Fix their issues
Start actually evaluating and putting together a life plan
Reprogram the bullshyt they see across all social media platforms
That got them out here looking terrible as a whole(not just black women)
Understand that if you are shooting for a high earning man
Just be prepared to compete because he is a commodity
Recognize there are men out here just as average as they are
Looking for love and commitment and it’s nothing wrong with just being average
The connotation with that word is a whole other argument many people aren’t ready for
To conclude
We got tho this point because men have been holding their tongues for so long
Go along to get along
Now men are like fukk that
Speaking up and defending themselves
Not wrecking their bodies and spirit for an ungrateful woman
It’s truly funny how women have had these spaces for years(continuously) to shyt on men, harbor shytty hot takes across all media platforms
Espouse(your word) bad faith arguments and advice
But as soon as a man stands up and says what ALL men have felt at one point in their life
It’s met with more resistances than a booty band workout
That’s truly perplexing to me
You can’t even acknowledge that yourself about the bullshyt men have had dumped over their heads for years
Especially black boys, which is telling of your character as a man
Just like Ryan Davis(who got a whole ass male roommate at his old ass age with children)
That shyt is predatory and white knighting because men know men
Coddling women has done society no good at all but let you tell it

I dont agree with 100% of what anyone says, but I actually agree with much of what he says. I've said multiple times that I dont have an issue with his angle. He's an entertainer and he does his job well. My concern is with dusty guys using his talking points when they aren't HVM, and the attacks they use when some people disagree (your post is a good example).

There are people that watch KS solely because of the way he eviscerates delusional women and it makes them feel better about their lame little lives

I agree the Daddy language is dismissive, just like calling someone simp when you don't agree with them.

KS is an intelligent man. He knows as a 50 something 2x divorce bachelor man he is not the best person to try to reach women and help them do better.

I believe men are supposed to be leaders in a community, if that's the case then why does it matter what women are doing in their space? That's a form of deflection and it certainly hasn't kept men from being desired by women. If a man is a grown man on his square, sure of himself, and in his purpose then birds won't try him with the BS and women of some substance will be attracted to him.

At least that's been my experience

 

[Wiseborn]

Looking at that video and I had to put on my 20 year old mindset and say if she wasn’t telling dude to come smash right now then she should be charged with indecent exposure or something. Like what was the point unless you were really about that life.

The bad part is I can see this being some stupid bet or dare just say she wasn’t scared.

Nah it's standard porn shyt. Either it was staged or it was really set up quick. Shorty is one of those Only Fans models the go to is always outdoor sex that's the only way they keep their shyt "fresh" other than that you get the same blowjob then transition to back shot scenes that you see in every single only fans video.

I think that's a huge fetish for women women are always down to have sex outside or in some wierd place.


Why don't these hoes do something different?

 

[Thurgood Thurston III]

Looking at that video and I had to put on my 20 year old mindset and say if she wasn’t telling dude to come smash right now then she should be charged with indecent exposure or something. Like what was the point unless you were really about that life.

The bad part is I can see this being some stupid bet or dare just say she wasn’t scared.

To be fair, this is very likely fake and he's in on it.

 

[The Radiant One]

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Your tone is adversarial and is in absolutes, which makes for very little nuance.

His advice isn't working because men and women are still calling in with the same toxic tropes years after he went viral. I expect that 5 years from now he will still have the same callers with the same problems. That isn't growth. His show attracts toxic callers. Why is that?

I said specifically I dont have an issue with him and have an issue with the vitriol of some of his fanbase.

The reason I don't believe most of his listeners people have legit mentors is because if they did they likely wouldn't seek a man on Youtube they don't know, who hasn't qualified himself, and cannot tailor his advice for their individual situations.

I understand some people find it entertaining but those people likely aren't the ones taking life advice from an unproven stranger on the internet.



Maybe Jerry Springer is more accurate.

KS interviews misfits in a way he has total control over for entertainment of the masses. If he had to rely solely on his hour long diatribes he'd probably lose half his subscriber base.

Uhh you do know 8 people in the mix group has gotten married. Who else is qualified or has produced as many results as him? He talks to modern women. It's his show and he does what he does.

Your arguments against him also work against you as well. Have you been married? Coli in general is GMB

 

[BujuBoombastic]

In black women's defense, she is clearly a sex worker. Are you saying that all black women should be represented by sex workers?

Nah my brother
I'm not saying that at all
We've seen time and time again where some of our very own women would shake their ass in public places
Last year the brother who owned the Dallas restaurant got crucified for checking our women who were twerking in his restaurant
Just like the men in our community should be accountable for their actions
Women in our community should be accountable as well