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Kevin’s not the problem though.


Its some of these crazy ass women with high expectations that are the issue and have forced Kevin to double on down on the difference between High Value Man and average.


After that video with the lady who wanted to divorce her husband to get back with a dude she had messed up with years earlier, i actually sat back and watches 3-4 FULL videos of Kevin Samuels and the cold hard truth is that his evaluation of what a high value man is, is a really just a lesson to teach some of these women how unrealistic THEY are.


He asked a woman how much her husband should be making yearly and she said $500k, with a STRAIGHT fukkING FACE she said that shyt. Then Kevin asked her what age. She said 32-38. Then he asked her what race. She said black.


Kevin then asked her statistically what percentage of black men at that age range was making that amount of money. She couldn’t answer. I don’t remember the exact percentage but it was low enough that the point was that its a needle in a fukking hay stack. And there are PLENTY of women who have called in with the unrealistic expectations that these men are just magically out there waiting to take on their bullshyt and their fukked up attitudes.


So what Kevin is doing by separating “High Value” from the average man who makes $60k, is showing these women exactly how foolish and unrealistic their thinking is. He really tends to go harder on women who WANT “High Value” men than he does a woman who is willing to see the actual value in a hard working blue collar brother.




After watching a few of his videos, i don’t agree with everything he says, but he’s spot fukking on about 95% of what he’s saying AND The fact that women actually CALL IN AND VALIDATE HIS POINTS is astonishing to me. Also its a little frightening to have the veil pulled and to see just how many women are fukked up in the head when it comes to their expectations of dating/marriage and how little they themselves feel they should be contributing to a romantic partnership. shyt is downright spooky.




I take back the bad shyt I said about him before. I truly thought he was just a reverse Derick Jaxson, but dude be spitting GOSPEL.

i agree and great post breh....

i tell women that dont like kevin is all he's doing is pointing out how shallow a lot of women are and how unrealistic their expectations are....especially when they bring NOTHING of value to the table beyond a vagina
 

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Buddy just threw some numbers out. Just renting a luxury a apartment in LA for instance is around 36K.

and that's why I said some places you can spend 2-3k per month on rent or mortgage. which correlates to 45-50k in gross income just to be able to afford that place to live. a more average number is 12-15k per year on rent/mortgage as opposed to 24-36k a year.
 

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The Tia/Tamara girl....was a 30 year old clueless lawyer. Grown women find this stuff all light and funny and jokey until it's too late. She gonna end up like Joan off Girlfriends....

she expected a 6 ft tall black man, no kids, who also made 250k a year, ready to take on her as a work in progress.
 

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i agree and great post breh....

i tell women that dont like kevin is all he's doing is pointing out how shallow a lot of women are and how unrealistic their expectations are....especially when they bring NOTHING of value to the table beyond a vagina
He asked a couple great questions this past week. 1.) what makes you rare? 2.) what do you have to offer that you haven’t already given to a other man?
 

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The Tia/Tamara girl....was a 30 year old clueless lawyer. Grown women find this stuff all light and funny and jokey until it's too late. She gonna end up like Joan off Girlfriends....

she expected a 6 ft tall black man, no kids, who also made 250k a year, ready to take on her as a work in progress.

As KS keeps pointing out when it comes to career and education they're focused but when it comes to finding a partner they fall back on nebulous notions, It's crazy,
 

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As KS keeps pointing out when it comes to career and education they're focused but when it comes to finding a partner they fall back on nebulous notions, It's crazy,

but their counterparts do BOTH AND have hobbies. they get married, have kids, have jobs, degrees and hobbies. Our women extremely focus on 8-10 years of school and "getting the bag".

He asked a couple great questions this past week. 1.) what makes you rare? 2.) what do you have to offer that you haven’t already given to a other man?

that second question is a killer. I'll even say what is there left for a man to do for a woman who already has it? They have their own everything so there's nothing new and exciting a man can do so we are reduced to wallets, and sperm.

women often say well my DADDY does XYZ.....eventually your dad is going expect you to find a man or get used to a reduced standard of living OR get ready to work yourself to the bone.
 

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Because anyone who lives in the real world knows you don't have to make that much and so does he. nikka just be saying shyt cause it sounds good

He actually says it to bring their expectations down to reality because the majority of the callers want high value men making big money and they are old with baggage
 

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The numbers are not high
If you have kids
Do you want your kids in public or private school
Private school costs
Preparatory school/programs cost
After school sports, music, art classes cost
Then you factor in a house
The house will need maintenance
You will need specific insurance on your house unless you know a contractor, plumber, etc
Will your family have two cars
Maintenance, insurance as well
Medical emergencies
Rather good or bad insurance
Copays can kick your ass for procedures
Medication
Investments, college fund, savings
Vacations
People seem to forget the world we are in now compared to 20-30 years ago
Now factor in all those costs by each child you have
What city you live in
Numbers aren’t skewed
You just don’t want the truth and moving with a mindset that’s not based in reality in 2021
Pretty much.

To guarantee that the woman never HAS to work, for the rest of their marriages/lives, while also never struggling in the present (meaning you’ll also have to save a substantial amount of money for retirement years), the numbers Kevin throws out there are right. People just can’t believe the numbers are that high. Which is the point.
 

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Because anyone who lives in the real world knows you don't have to make that much and so does he. nikka just be saying shyt cause it sounds good
You do have to make that much to live a certain lifestyle, that’s kinda the point breh. Nobody is saying you can’t survive or even strive on a lot less.
 

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Just be careful and run things past your own longevity detector. My own mother, a married woman herself, has, at times, given me TERRIBLE advice. When I told her, "That's not my busines and im not getting involved," she had a damn epiphany and said, and I quote, "if I had a friend like you, me and your father mighta still been together."

Old =/= wise.


That's the result of not being red pilled before marriage. Plus, a lot of redpill stuff neglects the relationship stuff. I have one resource for married men or men in ltrs who are having trouble maintaining frame long term, etc.


I was one of the handful of people that helped him edit this book when it came out way back when :wow:

Found his blog early in my marriage and it was a game changer
 

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Pretty much.

To guarantee that the woman never HAS to work, for the rest of their marriages/lives, while also never struggling in the present (meaning you’ll also have to save a substantial amount of money for retirement years), the numbers Kevin throws out there are right. People just can’t believe the numbers are that high. Which is the point.

THANK YOU. EXACTLY THIS.
 

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The Tia/Tamara girl....was a 30 year old clueless lawyer. Grown women find this stuff all light and funny and jokey until it's too late. She gonna end up like Joan off Girlfriends....

she expected a 6 ft tall black man, no kids, who also made 250k a year, ready to take on her as a work in progress.

That shyt was just sad and she's a lawyer.

I truly see how these women get fukked over, so clueless on life, lack wisdom and any kind of insight. No logic at all.

The questions he was asking was some 4th grade level shyt and she was struggling like she was taking a chemistry test.

shyt is sad, but she's driving a Benz and living with her parents.
 
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