Ya really need father figures in your lives...
Kevin Samuels was right
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Formerly Black Trash
Philosopher, Connoisseur, Future Legend
Facts
Some black women can't pick a black man to save their lives. The very black men that you want to be checked, "the suspects", these are the guys that are making babies with these women. These are the guys that early on in the woman's life are being selected to procreate with.
The kind of "outstanding" Black Men are the black men that most black women want after they have got through dealing with the BS from "The suspect" men, who they've made babies with and have spent their prime years with.
The "outstanding" black men are the ones who are not paying a high price for a used car, the "outstanding" black men are the ones who run through single mothers just like the suspect black men did when these women were in their prime years. The "outstanding" black men are the one who date "younger" women and not the women who have used up their prime years
Black men are good, every black man won't be "outstanding" this will always be the case.
You are asking black men to be "outstanding", but let me ask you something, are women "outstanding"? What makes a woman "outstanding" to an "outstanding" black man?
I talk this shyt, but the reality of things, the truth comes off as a person being bitter when it's just stating facts. Again, we need some straightenin to take place with black women. Many do not know how to pick a man to married and build a family with.
And I don’t disagree with you!
I have discussed how important it is to have fathers or at least paternal figures in children’s lives; it’s critical. Dads are equally as important as moms.
What I’m saying is, people are mad at women who didn’t raise themselves. People have all sorts of excuses for dudes: well these men didn’t have fathers; it’s not their fault their mothers chose poorly. They didn’t have the right examples.
WELL, these women didn’t have fathers; it’s not their fault their mothers chose poorly. They didn’t have the right examples.
Just because they are the same sex as the mother doesn’t mean you yell at them like they raised themselves.
The truth is, it’s a man’s world. Women have to move differently because WE are the ones who are carrying the baby. A man has the ability to impregnate you and leave, or impregnate you and stay. We just get impregnated and we are stuck with the baby either way. Marriage is the way he shows your families and society that he is officially taking responsibility for you and the children you bare.
WE are emotional and can get caught up with “sweet nothings” and lies. That’s why fathers take control and teach their daughters about boys/men so they don’t get messed up in the dating game. Because every girl would get knocked up out of wedlock if they didn’t come from a culture and family that taught them to push off men’s advances.
But what happens if you don’t have a dad to teach you this stuff, so you get stuck in the same cycle as your mother, and everyone is yelling at you like were supposed to know better when you weren’t one of the girls with proper guidance?
This shyt is going to be a neverending cycle of blame until we stop, call it for what it is and grant men AND women grace as we move forward with a clean slate.
Many of us got screwed because we had moms who fell for game, and dads who did not step up or fight to be in our lives. And I’ve seen Black fathers take mothers to court to ensure they had visitation/custody of their kids. So if your dad was unwilling to take it to that level to be in your life, you weren’t worth it to him and he’s a piece of shyt. He holds just as much blame as your mother.
So, now that that is established, what are we going to do?
You can do both, you can go to school/college and find your husband. You're speaking as if black women going to college doesn't sleep around, party and do other shyt while in school, that's not "focusing" being locked down in the books.
That 28 YO that you speak of, I'm sure has come across dudes that's liked her and wanted to build with her if she was a suitable mate to build with, who wanted to be a part of that dude's plan, problem is, that 28 YO in many cases, don't want to settle down. SHE wants to get into her career (job really) and bullshyt ass degree that at times aint worth shyt.
I don't think black fathers are telling their daughters not to get married, Mothers are more so preaching the whole "live your life" don't settle, you're young" Her friends, that 28 YO, her friends are saying the same thing to her, her friends are in the same boat as her, neither of them are finding/looking for husbands. You'll have more become baby mamas than wives while in college, causing them to drop out etc.
Black men are not calling their daughters "fast" I never heard a black man call his daughter "fast" even if she was a known slut, a black man is not saying this out loud to anybody.
I do know who will say this, the black mother, sister, her friends, her aunts, female cousins, those more than likely are calling that 28 YO "fast"
Black women keep black women from getting married. Women do shyt for other women and a woman's friends, at times, dictates her movements.
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
Nah Tate was wildin
KS despite the fukkery was dropping gems
A lot of cats need that wake up call
you can be mad at the messenger but you still live in reality.
What European ideology and trappings were bad? To always look presentable and look good when stepping out the house and to be a gentleman?
Men, black men included are valued by their money and influence. Harsh reality but doesn’t mean it’s not true
Women have always had value in their looks. “Pretty privilege” is a real thing. Again, harsh reality but it’s true.
nikkas don’t like the truth and that the world is evil and not fair but you still mad at the nikka that tells u that, instead of accepting reality.
You say that, but then when u don’t know how to change a lightbulb the first thing u do is look for a DIY on YouTube
kevin c00nuels "Black people didnt fight for freedom and civil rights, white folks gave it to us"
I will preface that I agree with about 90% of what KS says.. But when he starts going down the incel route with the men created the world and women should worship us for it rhetoric that's when I gotta hop off the train. In this convo dude really tried to tell the caller men not only civilized...
www.thecoli.com
Check video at 2:37:00
There was legit nikkas in there defending & deflecting from the c00n babble the nikka said
the way he’s gassed up like he was just preaching simple shyt & not also anti-black rhetoric really sets me off.What are you even yapping about?? There are plenty of interviews he did with older women talking about what they’re teaching their daughters.
Not my intention. I’m not saying white men/society are BETTER. I’m really comparing how they shut down the guy (Tate) who quickly became mainstream because his message was primarily being spread amongst the mainstream and essentially targeted white women, and mainstream wasn’t going to let that ride. Shut it down quickly.And I don’t disagree with you!
I have discussed how important it is to have fathers or at least paternal figures in children’s lives; it’s critical. Dads are equally as important as moms.
What I’m saying is, people are mad at women who didn’t raise themselves. People have all sorts of excuses for dudes: well these men didn’t have fathers; it’s not their fault their mothers chose poorly. They didn’t have the right examples.
WELL, these women didn’t have fathers; it’s not their fault their mothers chose poorly. They didn’t have the right examples.
Just because they are the same sex as the mother doesn’t mean you yell at them like they raised themselves.
The truth is, it’s a man’s world. Women have to move differently because WE are the ones who are carrying the baby. A man has the ability to impregnate you and leave, or impregnate you and stay. We just get impregnated and we are stuck with the baby either way. Marriage is the way he shows your families and society that he is officially taking responsibility for you and the children you bare.
WE are emotional and can get caught up with “sweet nothings” and lies. That’s why fathers take control and teach their daughters about boys/men so they don’t get messed up in the dating game. Because every girl would get knocked up out of wedlock if they didn’t come from a culture and family that taught them to push off men’s advances.
But what happens if you don’t have a dad to teach you this stuff, so you get stuck in the same cycle as your mother, and everyone is yelling at you like were supposed to know better when you weren’t one of the girls with proper guidance?
This shyt is going to be a neverending cycle of blame until we stop, call it for what it is and grant men AND women grace as we move forward with a clean slate.
Many of us got screwed because we had moms who fell for game, and dads who did not step up or fight to be in our lives. And I’ve seen Black fathers take mothers to court to ensure they had visitation/custody of their kids. So if your dad was unwilling to take it to that level to be in your life, you weren’t worth it to him and he’s a piece of shyt. He holds just as much blame as your mother.
So, now that that is established, what are we going to do?
I can't let you sit up here and do this, the reason why many BW got screwed is because their mother did not marry before she carried. Even in case of a divorce to happen, there's a small small % of men who will just abandon his children after the divorce, if a divorce was to take place. Men during marriage and after marriage are strongly connected with their children and want to be in their children lives, Husbands don't leave their children.
Baby Daddies do. Women need to stop creating Baby Daddies, Marry before you Carry
Let's just put it out there, if a woman decides to lay down with a man BEFORE she gets married and gets preggo, then she has to deal with whatever comes from that procreation. She is playing the lottery with her life and her future kid or kids.
You get whatever comes from having pre-marital sex.
Women under no guidance of a man makes stupid decisions with her love life. Just like boys need fathers, girls need fathers also, so they can understand men. You can't understand men from a woman. You need a father to teach you how men are.
Most women will place men in a negative light, which jades the little girl. Women are taught, especially black women, they don't need a man, and who is that being taught by? a woman and gay men.
This has nothing to do with black men and "sweet nothings" or whatever stuff you're implying. The wiring has to be changed. Even reading your post, your "wiring" is not aligned with reality.
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skyrunner1
Superstar
People say this when they know there is a extremely high out of wedlock rate with single mother homes then act surprised when the chicken comes home to roost.. lol
RaspberryFitted
Boyz In Motion Member
then fukk ‘em. She wants to create babies with that type of nikka? Cool, God Bless that family but keep that dysfunction and issues away from my family or my community of people
This talking point doesn’t make sense because nobody is trapping us to do anything. If we’re 30-50 and go after 21-25 then we can do that. If we want to weed out our demographic to no children then we can do that.Who’s demanding that we marry these women?
I’m a young buck so my analysis on what makes a woman “outstanding” is incomplete/my own interpretation
Are BW outstanding? Yes, it would be outlandish for us to say only a select few BM see the light. How many of them are single, childless, or confident in themselves as an outstanding women who deserve an outstanding man? …
What makes one outstanding to a BM? Well, we can easily set standards and guidelines as for what we want in our women and the ones who get it will follow suit.
That’s for Women to decide. We as Men can ramble all day long but if Women don’t see there’s a problem on their end then it won’t get fixed.
All we can do is take accountability for what WE can control, assist our Black Boys, and blacklist ANY MAN OR WOMAN WHO DOES NOT FIT THE NEW STANDARD WE’VE CREATED