“Kobe belongs in the GOAT conversation” - Dennis Rodman

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Joe Sixpack said:
Kobe averaged 7ppg his rookie year :mjlol: :hhh:

Meanwhile

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Wasn't damn near any rookie...yet alone the first guard drafted out of high school in NBA history starting over Eddie Jones back then...

I mean...If Bron was drafted to the Celtics his ass wouldn't have started over Paul Pierce at the time. He would had to bust Paul ass in practice and have supreme confidence taking big shots off the bench...to get the starting spot and get Pierce traded.
 
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Kobe isnt a top 25 NBA player.

Wilt
Russell
Mikan
West
Big O
Cousey
Frazier
Unseld
Moses Malone
Jordan
Magic
Bird
Gervin
Dantley
McAdoo
Kareem
Karl Malone
Barkley
LeBron
Hakeem
Zeke
Drexler
Wade
Curry
Duncan
KG
Shaq

Who is removed for Kobe?
I could go on because I will argue Dominique is higher that Kobe,
 
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Torrential said:
Here's another quote for you from Chris Webber from the same video.

"What does this do to the legacy of, in your opinion as a former player. Or to the fans of a guy like LeBron. Who says, I want to win, but I'm going to the best players. I mean, how really do you look at that? Seeing him go over there with players that are just as good. Or some of the best players in the league."

C-Webb reacted in real time questioning LeBron on his move to Miami to go play with a player who was just as good as Lebron :mjlol:


No matter how much you dudes try to erase and rewrite history that move Lebron made was cheap . You can't compare hard earned rings won the right way to stacking the deck.

Kobe>>>>

Cheap. Rings. :umad:
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If lebron teamed up with a prime shaq would those be considered cheap rings? Him making a decision for him self , instead of some Gms that might not have winning as a priority is fair game... its a business at the end of the day:yeshrug:


Edit mis read your post i understand your point too :ehh:
 
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David_TheMan said:
Kobe isnt a top 25 NBA player.

Wilt
Russell
Mikan
West
Big O
Cousey
Frazier
Unseld
Moses Malone
Jordan
Magic
Bird
Gervin
Dantley
McAdoo
Kareem
Karl Malone
Barkley
LeBron
Hakeem
Zeke
Drexler
Wade
Curry
Duncan
KG
Shaq

Who is removed for Kobe?
I could go on because I will argue Dominique is higher that Kobe,
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Stfu:mjtf:
 
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David_TheMan said:
Kobe isnt a top 25 NBA player.

Wilt
Russell
Mikan
West
Big O
Cousey
Frazier
Unseld
Moses Malone
Jordan
Magic
Bird
Gervin
Dantley
McAdoo
Kareem
Karl Malone
Barkley
LeBron
Hakeem
Zeke
Drexler
Wade
Curry
Duncan
KG
Shaq

Who is removed for Kobe?
I could go on because I will argue Dominique is higher that Kobe,
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Negged for bozo babble. Stick to male porn star gossip.
:camby:
 
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David_TheMan said:
Kobe isnt a top 25 NBA player.

Wilt
Russell
Mikan
West
Big O
Cousey
Frazier
Unseld
Moses Malone
Jordan
Magic
Bird
Gervin
Dantley
McAdoo
Kareem
Karl Malone
Barkley
LeBron
Hakeem
Zeke
Drexler
Wade
Curry
Duncan
KG
Shaq

Who is removed for Kobe?
I could go on because I will argue Dominique is higher that Kobe,
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I agree! :salute:
 
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Woodrow said:
i think it is incredibly difficult to have an objective conversation about kobe, because of the circumstances surrounding his passing. to call out his very real shortcomings feels cruel and/or like kicking the man's legacy when he's not here to defend himself. but at the same time it feels like the reverence for kobe has gotten a lot more intense. passionate. unhinged.

IN MY OPINION... i do not think kobe is in the GOAT convo. for me there's a tier with jordan, lebron and kareem in a class of their own. whatever order you have them in, so be it, but kobe's career doesn't measure up. he would be in my next tier, and i wouldn't put him ahead of magic, or duncan or bird or russell or shaq either.
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yeah except all these same former players had kobe in goat convos before he died. :unimpressed:
 
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David_TheMan said:
Kobe isnt a top 25 NBA player.

Wilt
Russell
Mikan
West
Big O
Cousey
Frazier
Unseld
Moses Malone
Jordan
Magic
Bird
Gervin
Dantley
McAdoo
Kareem
Karl Malone
Barkley
LeBron
Hakeem
Zeke
Drexler
Wade
Curry
Duncan
KG
Shaq

Who is removed for Kobe?
I could go on because I will argue Dominique is higher that Kobe,
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Bleacher Report ahh list :mjlol:
 
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Torrential said:
Bleacher Report ahh list :mjlol:
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More of a David_TheMan type list.
I never liked Kobe as a player when he was alive and I don't like him as a player now.

I don't know him as a person, outside what he showed during his Colorado situation, but I am not speaking about him as a human being here, just a player.
 
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Torrential said:
Here's another quote for you from Chris Webber from the same video.

"What does this do to the legacy of, in your opinion as a former player. Or to the fans of a guy like LeBron. Who says, I want to win, but I'm going to the best players. I mean, how really do you look at that? Seeing him go over there with players that are just as good. Or some of the best players in the league."

C-Webb reacted in real time questioning LeBron on his move to Miami to go play with a player who was just as good as Lebron :mjlol:


No matter how much you dudes try to erase and rewrite history that move Lebron made was cheap . You can't compare hard earned rings won the right way to stacking the deck.

Kobe>>>>

Cheap. Rings. :umad:
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Hardwork >> Talent :yeshrug:


I know yalls pops taught yall that as kids, right?


Kobe chased after hardworkers.. not necessarily the most talented players in the league but experts at what they were good at (Artest - Defense and offense, Gasol - Offense, Odom - Offense and playmaking, etc.) and won with those.

Bron chased the most talented to play with :yeshrug:


Kobe also didn’t run to their teams, he brought them onboard. Recruited the pieces he needed to compete.


shyt is basic logic at this point.
 
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Woodrow said:
i think it is incredibly difficult to have an objective conversation about kobe, because of the circumstances surrounding his passing. to call out his very real shortcomings feels cruel and/or like kicking the man's legacy when he's not here to defend himself. but at the same time it feels like the reverence for kobe has gotten a lot more intense. passionate. unhinged.

IN MY OPINION... i do not think kobe is in the GOAT convo. for me there's a tier with jordan, lebron and kareem in a class of their own. whatever order you have them in, so be it, but kobe's career doesn't measure up. he would be in my next tier, and i wouldn't put him ahead of magic, or duncan or bird or russell or shaq either.
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And this is not an insult to Kobe at all

I'd place him ahead of Shaq
 
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