Kobe Bryant: "Kevin Durant the toughest matchup that I had to deal with outside of TMac"

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But the stats and numbers say your toughest matchup was Lebron. Every time you played him your numbers and percentages dropped drastically. Similar to the way Demar Derozan's numbers drop when facing Lebron. It's why struggled to beat him time after time after time after time again. He pretty much owned your entire life and outplayed you every single time.

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I wonder how many rings Demar would have won with Prime Shaq if this was all he had to put up.....He would probably be looked at in a different light

2000 NBA Finals

Shaq- 38 PPG, 17 RPG, 2.5 APG, 2.7 BPG, 61% FG 96/157----6 games
Kobe-16 PPG, 5 RPG, 4 APG, 1.4 BPG, 36% FG%, 33/90----5 games

2001 NBA Finals

Shaq- 33 PPG, 16 RPG, 5 APG, 3.5 BPG, 63/110 57% FG-----5 games
Kobe- 24 PPG, 8 RPG, 6 APG, 1.4 BPG, 44/106 41% FG------5 games


Where the phuk was all this LeBron-superiority when Kobe made it out the West, to the Finals 3 times in a row — without Shaq?

Dwight Coward and Hideo Turklogu are not good enough reasons to prevent LeBron from meeting Kobe in what would have been the greatest Finals during that generation.


Was it Delonte’s fault?

Waiting for someone to puff up Gasol to be a top 20 all-time Center (even though we know he’s not)...
 

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Where the phuk was all this LeBron-superiority when Kobe made it out the West, to the Finals 3 times in a row — without Shaq?

Dwight Coward and Hideo Turklogu are not good enough reasons to prevent LeBron from meeting Kobe in what would have been the greatest Finals during that generation.


Was it Delonte’s fault?

Waiting for someone to puff up Gasol to be a top 20 all-time Center (even though we know he’s not)...
So tell the board what lebron failed to do outside of the 38-8-8 49% he avg for that ecf against the magic.
 

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So tell the board what lebron failed to do outside of the 38-8-8 49% he avg for that ecf against the magic.

meanwhile this was enough for Kobe to win his rings without Shaq :mjlol:

Just ignore these Kobe stans.....They love to ignore the truth

2010 Finals
KOBE- 28.6ppg, 8 RPG, 3.8 APG 66/163 40%-----7 games
 

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A guy with 5 championships, 2 finals mvp, a MVP really wasn't that guy...

Some of you retards let your Kobe hate make you say some stupid shyt.
If Tmac had a team with Shaq or had a squad with Pau, Bynum, ARtest, Odom and Phil as his coach he would have gotten more than 5 titles.
 
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So tell the board what lebron failed to do outside of the 38-8-8 49% he avg for that ecf against the magic.

Maybe if he didnt fill his teams with spot up shooters so he can rack up empty stats, they would maybe have a chance to win.

When will you idiots realize getting those numbers is not that impressive when you build teams around you of just spot up shooters. James Harden has put up similar stats playing that style. And Harden has way less talent than Kobe. Give Kobe a bunch of shooters who space the floor and pick n rolls every play and he puts up similar or better numbers.

The reason Kobe won is because he sacrificed individual stats for winning. Everyone knows the triangle suppreses your numbers cause you don't get as many cheap assists as there is in a pick n roll offense. Also Kobe played his entire career with low post bigs crowding the paint. That's why he shot so many jump shots. Give him nothing but shooters and his FG% jumps 10 points because he would be taking more shots at the rim.

You Bron stans continue to prove that you know nothing about basketball beyond what you can read on a stat sheet.
 

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Maybe if he didnt fill his teams with spot up shooters so he can rack up empty stats, they would maybe have a chance to win.

When will you idiots realize getting those numbers is not that impressive when you build teams around you of just spot up shooters. James Harden has put up similar stats playing that style. And Harden has way less talent than Kobe. Give Kobe a bunch of shooters who space the floor and pick n rolls every play and he puts up similar or better numbers.

The reason Kobe won is because he sacrificed individual stats for winning. Everyone knows the triangle suppreses your numbers cause you don't get as many cheap assists as there is in a pick n roll offense.
Also Kobe played his entire career with low post bigs crowding the paint. That's why he shot so many jump shots. Give him nothing but shooters and his FG% jumps 10 points because he would be taking more shots at the rim.

You Bron stans continue to prove that you know nothing about basketball beyond what you can read on a stat sheet.


all fax, pathetic that nikkas keep ignoring this
 

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Maybe if he didnt fill his teams with spot up shooters so he can rack up empty stats, they would maybe have a chance to win.
The ‘09 ecf was pre-LeGM cocksucker.

Once again you expose your feminine catty ass agenda. I asked what Lebron could’ve done on the court outside of what he did to help the team win, and that was in response to someone blaming him for not getting past that magic team that made the finals. You couldn’t even help yourself. You don’t even know what you’re talking about, your bullshyt is just on automatic. That ‘09 Cavs team wasn’t made up of spot up shooters. Mo Williams, Big Z, and Delonte West, and Verajao were the other starters. The only real shooter in that rotation was Boobie Gibson. :russ: at accusing dude of not doing enough to win while accusing him for getting empty stats at the same time. You’re insufferable.

When will you idiots realize getting those numbers is not that impressive when you build teams around you of just spot up shooters. James Harden has put up similar stats playing that style. And Harden has way less talent than Kobe. Give Kobe a bunch of shooters who space the floor and pick n rolls every play and he puts up similar or better numbers.
The game is played much different now and has been over the last several seasons than it was in ‘09. Harden isn’t putting up 28-7-7 on 49% on a team with Big Z, Verajao, Delonte West, and Mo Williams. Harden can’t shoot 49% on a team full of shooters.

We also saw kobe on teams where he had the complete green light playing in systems other than the triangle and his numbers weren’t as impressive as lebron’s. Even kobe’s 05-06 season where he avg 35-5-5 45% was less impressive than lebron’s 31 7-7- 48% that same year.

You’re the idiot who made it all about numbers anyway. Lebron was overachieving with those cavs teams during his first run. That ‘07 team should’ve never made the finals. Lebron was a 22 year old pup who carried a garbage ass squad who’s #2 was Larry Hughes. fukk outta here with that “empty stat” shyt.

The reason Kobe won is because he sacrificed individual stats for winning. Everyone knows the triangle suppreses your numbers cause you don't get as many cheap assists as there is in a pick n roll offense. Also Kobe played his entire career with low post bigs crowding the paint. That's why he shot so many jump shots. Give him nothing but shooters and his FG% jumps 10 points because he would be taking more shots at the rim.

You Bron stans continue to prove that you know nothing about basketball beyond what you can read on a stat sheet.
The reason that Kobe won was that he was fortunate to play for a great franchise with great management. He didn’t sacrifice shyt. He was always the same volume shooting gunner from the beginning of his career to the very end. He just was lucky enough to play on teams that could take advantage of his strengths and overcome his weaknesses and flaws. I give a lot of credit to Phil and the lakers management, and especially for that almost 3peat they put together post-shaq. Kobe was the best player on those teams but there were plenty of times that they had to overcome dude’s deficiencies. It’s hilarious watching you paint like Kobe was hindered by the system and players that he’s played with when he’s been more than fortunate. He’s been lucky.

You’re one of the stupidest motherfukkers on this site and you’ve got the banner to prove it. You dikkriding c00n.
 

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We also saw kobe on teams where he had the complete green light playing in systems other than the triangle and his numbers weren’t as impressive as lebron’s. Even kobe’s 05-06 season where he avg 35-5-5 45% was less impressive than lebron’s 31 7-7- 48% that same year.



The reason that Kobe won was that he was fortunate to play for a great franchise with great management. He didn’t sacrifice shyt. He was always the same volume shooting gunner from the beginning of his career to the very end. He just was lucky enough to play on teams that could take advantage of his strengths and overcome his weaknesses and flaws. I give a lot of credit to Phil and the lakers management, and especially for that almost 3peat they put together post-shaq. Kobe was the best player on those teams but there were plenty of times that they had to overcome dude’s deficiencies. It’s hilarious watching you paint like Kobe was hindered by the system and players that he’s played with when he’s been more than fortunate. He’s been lucky.

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What teams did he have a complete green light on without the triangle? ONE injured season? fukk outta here :mjlol:

And your last paragraph is completely inaccurate but usual of Bronsexuals that dont watch games and never watched kobe play except when a game was on TNT/ESPN. Even PJ himself said Kobe (and MJ) had to sacrifice for the triangle. Kobe was more than a gunner as well. deranged bron syndrome :camby:
 
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The ‘09 ecf was pre-LeGM cocksucker.

Once again you expose your feminine catty ass agenda. I asked what Lebron could’ve done on the court outside of what he did to help the team win, and that was in response to someone blaming him for not getting past that magic team that made the finals. You couldn’t even help yourself. You don’t even know what you’re talking about, your bullshyt is just on automatic. That ‘09 Cavs team wasn’t made up of spot up shooters. Mo Williams, Big Z, and Delonte West, and Verajao were the other starters. The only real shooter in that rotation was Boobie Gibson. :russ: at accusing dude of not doing enough to win while accusing him for getting empty stats at the same time. You’re insufferable.

The game is played much different now and has been over the last several seasons than it was in ‘09. Harden isn’t putting up 28-7-7 on 49% on a team with Big Z, Verajao, Delonte West, and Mo Williams. Harden can’t shoot 49% on a team full of shooters.

We also saw kobe on teams where he had the complete green light playing in systems other than the triangle and his numbers weren’t as impressive as lebron’s. Even kobe’s 05-06 season where he avg 35-5-5 45% was less impressive than lebron’s 31 7-7- 48% that same year.

You’re the idiot who made it all about numbers anyway. Lebron was overachieving with those cavs teams during his first run. That ‘07 team should’ve never made the finals. Lebron was a 22 year old pup who carried a garbage ass squad who’s #2 was Larry Hughes. fukk outta here with that “empty stat” shyt.

The reason that Kobe won was that he was fortunate to play for a great franchise with great management. He didn’t sacrifice shyt. He was always the same volume shooting gunner from the beginning of his career to the very end. He just was lucky enough to play on teams that could take advantage of his strengths and overcome his weaknesses and flaws. I give a lot of credit to Phil and the lakers management, and especially for that almost 3peat they put together post-shaq. Kobe was the best player on those teams but there were plenty of times that they had to overcome dude’s deficiencies. It’s hilarious watching you paint like Kobe was hindered by the system and players that he’s played with when he’s been more than fortunate. He’s been lucky.

You’re one of the stupidest motherfukkers on this site and you’ve got the banner to prove it. You dikkriding c00n.

Kobe played in the triangle in 2005-06 dummy. Phil was the head coach.

Kobe only played out of the triangle for 1.5 seasons. In 2004-05, he played outside of the triangle for roughly half a season. Rudy T started off the year as coach. Halfway though the year Rudy T quit and Frank Hamblen (a Phil protege) took over and brought back the triangle. Kobe put up 27-6-6 while dealing with several foot injuries (including a severely sprained ankle that cost him about 20 games). Then in 2012-13, Mike D'Antoni took over and at 34 years old Kobe put up 27-6-6 once again with a less than ideal supporting cast when it comes to shooters.

You clearly don't watch basketball. There is a reason ALMOST ALL of LeBron's peers say Kobe is better. They know simple shyt like this. Put Kobe in LeBron's situation and he outperforms him EASILY. Put LeBron in Kobe's spot and he fails miserably because he lacks Kobe's skill level and outside shooting ability.
 
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What teams did he have a complete green light on without the triangle? ONE injured season? fukk outta here :mjlol:

And your last paragraph is completely inaccurate but usual of Bronsexuals that dont watch games and never watched kobe play except when a game was on TNT/ESPN. Even PJ himself said Kobe (and MJ) had to sacrifice for the triangle. Kobe was more than a gunner as well. deranged bron syndrome :camby:


Even if Kobe had the green light in 2005-06, he was still playing in the triangle.

The only time we can say Kobe played a full season outside the triangle was 2012-13 at age 34 years old when he put up 27-6-6. And that was on a team with Dwight Howard and Pau Gasol still clogging the paint.

Can you imagine 24 year old Kobe's numbers playing in the Rockets system? He would put up 40-7-7 in his sleep playing in James Harden's spot.
 
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