Kobe Bryant's skill level was simply INSANE

[FlyRy]

His footwork was great, but it still was inferior to MJs

 

[Supreme365]

Shaq went from a 29ppg player to 22, 20 then 17 in Miami


You dudes is retards beyond comprehension

So we gonna act like shaq didn't command a double in the post during his time in Miami
We gonna act like shaq wasn't a runner up for MVP his first year in Miami
We gonna act like shaq wasn't nailed to the paint during his time in Miami
We gonna act like the zone defense wasn't fully implemented leading to less spacing and lower shooting percentages league wide but still wade got busy

You don't know shyt bout hoops

 

[Supreme365]

You do know there is a reason LeBron had guys like Bosh and Kevin Love camped out at the 3-point line. He doesn't have Kobe's versatility as a scorer. He could only score driving into the paint and didn't need defenders clogging it up. If a big is in the post, then the paint is permanently clogged. Kobe played his entire career with bigs who clogged the paint hence the reason he had to master the mid-range jump shot.

One of the biggest reasons LeBron's teams always lose in the finals is because he can only play one way. The LeBron-centric offense is not very good for winning championships against good teams. Its easy for teams to defend. However, the types of teams Kobe played on were more difficult to defend because he could do more than just drive into the paint. Because Kobe was so elite as a mid-range he could play with bigs like Shaq, Gasol, and Bynum clogging up the paint. That allowed his team to be able to attack defenses in multiple ways and thus they were able to win more rings than LeBron's teams.

LeBron's "efficiency" is one of the major reasons he keeps losing in the finals. He's not VERSATILE. He lacks the ability to play in different offenses and adapt to different schemes. All he can do is play LeBron James ball. And that type of basketball has now repeatedly been proven to be ineffective for winning championships.

Lebron averaged 29 a game shooting 50% from the field playing with a super slow paint clogging shaq

 

[YaThreadFloppedB!]

Hi Mrs. Cum. My point is that swagnificent should just consolidate into one thread where he can stan Kobe, lust for underage girls, etc. Each day he can post to it like a diary. The thread can be in the bushes somewhere where it belongs.

They called that boi @MrScum ...Mrs. Cum

Spoiler

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

Return neg on dankster,


Back to ignore

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

Lebron averaged 29 a game shooting 50% from the field playing with a super slow paint clogging shaq

37 year old shaq playing 23 mpg



Yall seriously stupid lol

 

[Draje]

Naw don't take out Shaq. Kobe put up 28 in the playoffs on 46% and 24 in the 01 finals. He averaged 26 on 46% in the playoffs and 26 on 50% in the 2002 finals. Shaq dont three peat without Kobe. Meanwhile Lebron aka the greatest in the world in his prime had Dwade lead the way in 2011 finals and still found someway to lose to an old ass Dirk, flabby Jason Kidd, Deshawn stevenson who Lebron called Soulja boy, Jj Berra andddddd Jason terry. They don't want us to count the rings with Shaq but want us to not count Lebron losing efforts. They want us to remember Kobe in 2004 but forget about 2011 so they can give Bron some edge in the comparison to the GOAT Jordan.

You talking about losing to an old ass Dirk like Kobe didn't get swept by those same Mavs in 2011 and he was the same age as Lebron was when he got beat by the super Golden State.

Y'all talking about "Kobe don't win without Shaq" but the Heat/Cavs probably struggle to make the finals, much less repeat or win one for the land if Lebron isn't on those teams.

Kobe lost against the Pistons with Prime Shaq. How is that any less embarrassing than losing against Dirk or did two teams, with far less talent, manage to outplay/hustle their overconfident opponents in the finals?

If you gonna count Lebron's losing efforts, count Kobe's. Lebron getting mollywhopped by the Spurs, in 2007, in the finals ain't no worse than Kobe getting mollywhopped by the Suns in the first round that same fukking year. Hell, the Spurs were the eventual champions, at least.

Don't bytch about Lebron giving up against the Celtics while giving Kobe a pass for dropping a 3-1 lead against a 6'3 Canadian CAC and having one of the worst 2nd hands we've ever seen during a game 7 (By a superstar).

Be consistent with your criticism across both sides. Kobe has more rings, overall, but Lebron has more rings as the undisputed main man. If you out Kobe on those Cavs and give him the same help that Lebron had, he doesn't change anything. They'd still lose to every team Lebron lost too. You put Lebron on the Lakers, him/Shaq run the league but they'd struggle against the same teams and Lebron would still get beat out West until he got some real help. Phil would probably be better at developing Lebron and get him to work out his early career flaws.

For all this stanning and stupidity, no matter which way you side, the difference between Kobe and Lebron is minuscule, with minor advantages both ways.

Kobe's more technically sound, a more polished and explosive scorer, and has more versatile scoring skill set. Lebron's more physically gifted, less refined but more consistently dominant skill set, and is more versatile offensive player.

Kobe's an artist, Lebron is an architect. Kobe's goal is to break down his individual defender, Lebron's goal is to break down the defensive scheme (Drawing help or forcing the wrong rotation). It's funny because Kobe's most successful years are when he focused more on his all-around versatility and less on scoring whereas Lebron's is when he realizes he's an unstoppable scoring force.

Enjoy both of them and understand that neither of them are good as Jordan so stop comparing them to him.

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

The Dankster writes these elaborate long posts just to tell us that kobe is 5/7 and Lebron is 3/8 in the Finals



fukking goofy

 

[FreshAIG]

He's skilled but we've seen it before with Jamal Crawford, McGrady (Before you Kobe fans get your panties in a bunch, I'm speaking from a pure skill level, not performance). He's really flashy and makes for great highlights

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

If you put @Draje @Bilz @The Dankster and @OG_StankBrefs on ignore the coli becomes amazing.



Imagine posting PARAGRAPHS to profess your love for lebron in a thread about Kobe highlights

 

[Draje]

If you put @Draje @Bilz @The Dankster and @OG_StankBrefs on ignore the coli becomes amazing.



Imagine posting PARAGRAPHS to profess your love for lebron in a thread about Kobe highlights

Aren't you the dumbass who posts manipulated stats and then runs away when they're challenged?

 

[Swagnificent]

You know how many freaking examples there are of other players shooting instead of Kobe in the clutch?


2009 Game 2 against the Nuggets: Lakers down three with 5 seconds left in the game, and it's Fisher, not Kobe, who attempts the game-tying three.

2009 Game 2 against the Magic. Lakers down two with 33 seconds left in the game and it's Pau, not Kobe, who makes the game-tying bucket to send it into overtime. Kobe misses the potential game-winner with two seconds left. In overtime Kobe only scores 2 of the Lakers' 13 points, with Pau pouring in 7 to put away the game.

2009 Game 3 against the Magic. Kobe only scores 5 of the Lakers' 29 points in the fourth in a tight game (and two of those five are a meaningless layup with half a second left that only cuts the lead to two). Odom (8) and Pau (6) both outscore Kobe in the fourth.

2009 Game 4 against the Magic. Kobe doesn't score in the final 4:45 of regulation - instead it's a game-tying three by Ariza, a layup by Pau, and a game-tying three with 4 seconds left by Fisher that sends the game into overtime. Pau is once again the leading scorer in overtime with 5 points to Kobe's 4, but it's Fisher's game-winning three with 31 seconds left that gives the Lakers the 3-1 series lead.

2010 Game 3 against the Thunder, Kobe only scores 2 of the last 19 points in a tight game. Pau (4), MWP (4), Bynum (3), Odom (3) and Fisher (3) all outscore Kobe late. Kobe's only basket is a layup when the Lakers were down four with 13 seconds left and needed three, not two (Durant made both free throws and Farmar and MWP, not Kobe, tried to hit the threes to get it back).

2010 Game 6 against the Thunder, Kobe only scores 2 of the last 22 points in a tight game. MWP (5), Fisher (5), Walton (5) and Brown (3) all outscore Kobe late. When Kobe misses the potential game-winner with two seconds left, it's Pau that saves the game with a game-winning putback that keeps the series from going 7 and saves the Lakers from a potential first-round exit.

2010 Game 5 against the Suns, Kobe only scores 2 of the last 15 points in a tight game. Fisher (5) and Pau (4) both outscore Kobe late. When Kobe misses the potential game-winner with three seconds left, it's MWP that saves the game with a game-winning putback that keeps the Lakers from going down 3 to 2 heading into Game 6.

2010 Game 7 against the Celtics, Kobe only scores 3 of the last 15 points in a tight game, and those were on intentional fouls. Pau (7 points) is the Laker go-to man down the stretch. Once again it's MWP who makes the shot of the game, a huge three with a minute left that doubles the Laker lead.



And that's JUST those last two championships when Kobe was "the man". Game after game after game, it was Pau's dominance on offense and Pau/Fisher/MWP's clutch shots that made the difference for the Lakers.

Kobe was literally FOURTH on his own team in huge playoff shots during that 2009-2010 run.

The idea that "Kobe made all the shots in the clutch for those teams" is a straight myth and you just got owned.

Now make me a list of all the clutch shots Kobe hit during that reign since you seem to have this all documented? Or would the list be too long and not part of your agenda? Look bruh. Maybe you like LeBron on some faq shyt. That its him the person that got you defending him. I don't give a shyt about Kobe the person. In fact I hate his guts cause he's a c00n with a lack of empathy of other people. Only reason I fukk with him is cause when I WATCHED him he was the baddest muthafukka I ever saw play basketball. Now you can isolate whatever shyt you want, but you can't change what we ALL SAW.

There is a reason almost ALL of Kobe's peers revere him as the best of their generation. He's UNIVERSALLY considered the most clutch by his peers. All these guys didn't just imagine this. Guys like D-Wade and KD didn't just decide to give him these props. This is who he was. You just have an agenda and you cherry pick the facts you want.

I just want you to answer me one question: Why is it only guys who never played the game that say Kobe isn't clutch?

You honestly remind me of this analytics cac who tried to do what you're doing now only to get checked by T-Mac:

 

[Supreme365]

37 year old shaq playing 23 mpg



Yall seriously stupid lol

In 08 the cavs were 14th in 3's made and 15th in 3point percentage lebron that year averaged 30ppg 8rpg and 7asst at just 23 years old while shooting 48 percent from the field

Lebron had no problem getting busy despite his team being an average 3point shooting team you'll kobe stans hate is ridiculous

 

[Family Lives Matter]

Great original thread op
Pos rep

 

[Donald Trumps Twitter]

Tmac


Dude said Rudy Gay number one lol


Exactly these guys follow the same blueprint, biased selective numbers to fit a narrative.


Also if you see the video at the bottom it says "in the past 10 seasons"


Selectively biased to fit a narrative lol