Ladies Ever Consider Submission as a Way to Win?

[Lady.Libra.]

Yes but I am not only "redirecting" but also being proactive by setting the tone. I am realizing that if I take my time and allow situations to play out before I react the attack/entitlement/disrespect that I initially perceived was not the person's intentions at all. Less seems to be more.

RE: bolded - True in some instances...

However, I just recently had an experience where I let the situation "play out" over time and in the end it boiled down to entitlement on the other person's behalf.

There's always opportunities where I can practice submission.
I do recognize the advantage of submission though...but expending the energy and time in some situations have me feeling like ----> So much easier to just detach .

 

[CinnaSlim]

Im already submissive, according to my exes. Im just not a doormat and very independent.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

No it's really not. Most women aren't like that. You should know that by now. You've been on this forum long enough.

Most women aren't like what?

Most women I know/have dated (who weren't teenagers) aren't

- argumentative
- hypercritical
- opinionated to the point that they put people off
- scowlfaced and unapproachable
- overly negative

and the ones who were got the bushes

You seem to have confused being a, for a lack of a better term, complete bytch, for being someone who isn't a pushover. This is like the female equivalent of those guys who "become a$$holes" to avoid being taken advantage of.... you don't have to go that extreme to not let people take advantage of you, and in any case being argumentative/negative/nasty doesn't mean you won't get taken for the whoop de whoop. Be smarter, not bytchier

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Most women aren't like what?

Most women I know/have dated (who weren't teenagers) aren't

- argumentative
- hypercritical
- opinionated to the point that they put people off
- scowlfaced and unapproachable
- overly negative

and the ones who were got the bushes

You seem to have confused being a, for a lack of a better term, complete bytch, for being someone who isn't a pushover. This is like the female equivalent of those guys who "become a$$holes" to avoid being taken advantage of.... you don't have to go that extreme to not let people take advantage of you, and in any case being argumentative/negative/nasty doesn't mean you won't get taken for the whoop de whoop. Be smarter, not bytchier

This thread about being more positive but you insist with bringing that negative. You wanna argue about some shyt that is already in the process of being solved. You have nothing to add.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

This thread about being more positive but you insist with bringing that negative. You wanna argue about some shyt that is already in the process of being solved. You have nothing to add.

I'm not being negative, just honest. You seem to make a concerted effort to be difficult to be around, and take not doing so as being "submissive". Not arguing for no reason or being overly critical of someone is not being submissive, it's just called being decent and normal

I'm just so throwed that that's considered submissive now.

 

[CinnaSlim]

Shes not arguing for no reason tho.

What she means is that when she feels disrespected or something that needs to be corrected. She doesn't just react right away in resistance to it. She's not fighting fire with fire.

Shes taking a step back and allowing the whole thing to play out so she can get a better understanding of it and act on it in a less stressful way. Because when you attack someone who you perceive as attacking you both of you get defensive and not much gets accomplished because no one wants to listen instead they are both trying to get their points across.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

I'm not being negative, just honest. You seem to make a concerted effort to be difficult to be around, and take not doing so as being "submissive". Not arguing for no reason or being overly critical of someone is not being submissive, it's just called being decent and normal

I'm just so throwed that that's considered submissive now.

I have not interested in arguing with you b/c you want to play semantics. We not on that in here breh. This thread is about trying something a lot of women have difficulty with. Please see yourself out. Thanks

 

[Lady.Libra.]

We can agree to disagree. The men that often bytch about women not submitting are crap leaders or they haven't learned the proper definition of what it should be. This is why they face such resistance from women but if they are lucky they meet a female like you willing to "practice" it with them. How long before you get tired of pretending that's who you really are?

For other men it happens naturally because they set standards of how they want to be treated early on, which is very different than telling someone how to behave. As a woman you WILL naturally submit to a man that has set standards. You will change your behavior and approach without it being a second thought. This is what I mean by it happening "naturally".

Cosign. This is what I was talking about when I stated that I would submit to the "Right type of man..."

I am going to practice 'submission' though and see how things go...might just save me a headache or five

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Shes not arguing for no reason tho.

What she means is that when she feels disrespected or something that needs to be corrected. She doesn't just react right away in resistance to it. She's not fighting fire with fire.

Shes taking a step back and allowing the whole thing to play out so she can get a better understanding of it and act on it in a less stressful way. Because when you attack someone who you perceive as attacking you both of you get defensive and not much gets accomplished because no one wants to listen instead they are both trying to get their points across.

IDK who you are replying to b/c I think I have them blocked but thank you. You stated it perfectly.

 

[gogogubari]

Im already submissive, according to my exes. Im just not a doormat and very independent.

This. Only to the dikk I'm riding, though. The guy I'm dating now, I don't think he's ever heard ME cuss I cuss like a sailor.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Cosign. This is what I was talking about when I stated that I would submit to the "Right type of man..."

I am going to practice 'submission' though and see how things go...might just save me a headache or five

Right and all I am doing is seeing how it goes. I'm not saying women should be doing it. I just want to see if it makes any type of difference. I hope that you report any pros or cons. It would make this thread really interesting.

 

[Lady.Libra.]

It's certainly easier on my blood pressure
.

This is what resonates with me!

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

This is what resonates with me!

One thing that I didn't anticipate was that I've actually been more calm and happy. Go figure.

 

[The Mad Titan]

I can tell you already @BlackPearl you will notice that you not only get more out of men but you also will have a better attitude and less stress.


Now as far as being submissive overall its something that comes naturally to some and not so much to others. I think its bad this day and age to be submissive because men will take full advantage over women like that and drain them dry.

However if a submissive woman links up with a good man those are the relationships that last a lifetime.


Dont be a doormat, or not speak your mind but sometimes you just got to and let a man lead even if you know he about to lead you into the fire.


As men we are stubborn, we rage out then get hurt or have time to clam down and go "she probably was right" or "I understand why you doing what you doing" and then we level up....


Sadly today we have alot of women that just can't and refuse to do that.



Also being submissive lets you back away from the alpha males that you might feel like you need in your life. I haven't run across a TRUE alpha male that doesn't cheat or feels like a woman is there equal.

 

[Lady.Libra.]

Right and all I am doing is seeing how it goes. I'm not saying women should be doing it. I just want to see if it makes any type of difference. I hope that you report any pros or cons. It would make this thread really interesting.

Will do.

It's going to be challenging because I'm going to try it with 2 people that I am already defensive with and/or think of negatively
But I have a head start though as there are plenty of instances when both of them try to redeem themselves. BUT I get stuck in my head like - " No, bytchass, don't try to be nice now! Keep behaving like an ass. " (I'm so petty).
So, when the next opportunity comes up, I'm going to set the wheels-of-submission in motion!