Lebron just set a new NBA record

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bird earned his rings in the hardest eastern conference ever

With help from his teammates. Bird doesn't have as many championships without the contributions of McHale, Parish, Johnson, Maxwell and Ainge. They had Bill Walton coming off the bench in '86 and even at that stage of his career he was an extremely effective role player for them. Using team success to compare two players is the wrong way to look at this, you have to compare their actual performance level.

What impacts performance level most? Quality of the opposing defense. He has gone through the likes of the Pistons, Kidd era Nets, big three Celtics, Howard era Magic, Pacers, Thibs Bulls and last year the Warriors. More than likely this year he'll have to face either the Warriors or Spurs who both rank top 5 the latter historically great, and no matter what develops in the East he'll have to face at least two top shelf defenses (Atl #2, Boston #6) en route to the Finals.
 

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Call averaging 25+ points for 12 seasons straight "arbitrary" brehs. We talking SEASONS not assists made while passing with your left hand bro.

The coil y'all.
I don't think you know what arbitrary means.
But maybe you thought Lebron was just an ok player when he had 11 seasons averaging 25 pts

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The Kang gon Kang :wow:


Magic is 5-4 in the Finals, Bird is 3-2. When/if Bron gets his 3rd ring, he should leap frog them in everyone's minds. I'm a Bron stan but that Mavs series was a bad look. He'd be 3-3 otherwise and it would be no debate IMO.

Well Magic has had a horrible Finals moment too



I'm not one to attribute records in the NBA Finals to a single player to begin with. You win and lose as a team. What I will look at is the performance of a player in the postseason, and LBJ has been objectively more dominant than Bird and Magic on that stage. There's not even a question as to who is the better peak player (clearly LeBron), he has matched them in longevity, and thats literally all I look at when judging all time greats. If you dominate in the playoffs then it should be expected that you put your team in position to win it all enough times over the course of a career. That way guys like Chuck and Karl aren't punished for not having titles when clearly they played at a high enough level to get some.
 

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I was a Lebron hater for basketball reasons only. Now that Im older and wiser I realize the error of my ways. I still aint gonna call him my favorite but you gotta respect him. Most hyped athlete of all time and lived up to the hype. Hes a family man and has had no controversies over a decade+ of being a top 3 most popular athlete in the world. Still one of the best in the league and making power moves left and right off the court. You gotta respect it :yeshrug:
 

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Well Magic has had a horrible Finals moment too



I'm not one to attribute records in the NBA Finals to a single player to begin with. You win and lose as a team. What I will look at is the performance of a player in the postseason, and LBJ has been objectively more dominant than Bird and Magic on that stage. There's not even a question as to who is the better peak player (clearly LeBron), he has matched them in longevity, and thats literally all I look at when judging all time greats. If you dominate in the playoffs then it should be expected that you put your team in position to win it all enough times over the course of a career. That way guys like Chuck and Karl aren't punished for not having titles when clearly they played at a high enough level to get some.

I don't disagree with you breh, I myself hate when brehs parade the 2-4 record to belittle him as if he wasn't the underdog in 07, 14, and 15.
 

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bird earned his rings in the hardest eastern conference ever
:russ: That Celtics team NEVER had a team to challenge them they went to the finals damn near 10 fukking years in a row .... If they never got old they still would be in the finals that was the best team ever constructed :wow:...... They had a young Danny Angie on the oak as the fukking 10th man:mjcry:


Who the fukk was gonna beat them a older DOC J before they had Moses? A Ewing with no other player after King went down? Oh the young mike with no one on his team but him:scust: FOH
 

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:rudy: No you didn't "state" shyt because you tried to twist the facts & make it look like Jordan had accomplished the same feat as LeBron with his 12 straight year @ 25 PPG average when he DID NOT "officially" or unofficially!







What MJ could have done has no bearing on what he actually did & his statistics for 85/86 season.

:shaq2:So U just gonna ignore Michael Jordan had only 7 starts, injuries, played 24-26min in 18 games and count as that as a real season ....

Coming off a rookie campaign putting up damn near 29 a game... Be realistic. The only reason this record wasn't attributed to MJ already was because of technicalities. It's a testament to Lebrons eliteness and consistency to officially hold that record.

It's not that serious breh
 

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Man get the fukk outta here with that stupid shyt :camby:

Curry had far less physical attributes than LeBron. Curry had to work 10 times harder to get to the league than LeBron did. Plus havin money had nothin to do with a kid makin it to the league. If that's the case why aren't more rich kids professional athletes:comeon:

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:scust: Have some dignity


Curry wouldn't be in the league without the luxury childhood training he received from his dad Dell Curry. Dude was playing on NBA courts before his baby teeth fell out.

Lebron never even had nothing. Guys like d Wade, d rose and him had to make do on the playgrounds.

U think its just a unlikely coincidence Curry only brother, Seth in the league too? :skip:
 

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I don't think you know what arbitrary means.
But maybe you thought Lebron was just an ok player when he had 11 seasons averaging 25 pts

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"Based on random choice or whim rather than a reason or system."

I think a stat focused on average points in a NBA season over a number of seasons isn't really arbitrary, especially in the case of it being a new record...
I gave you an example of something that would be an "arbitrary" stat.

Anyway, it'd be a indication of a good to superstar player whether it was 12 or 4 seasons.
 
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:scust: Have some dignity


Curry wouldn't be in the league without the luxury childhood training he received from his dad Dell Curry. Dude was playing on NBA courts before his baby teeth fell out.

Lebron never even had nothing. Guys like d Wade, d rose and him had to make do on the playgrounds.

U think its just a unlikely coincidence Curry only brother, Seth in the league too? :skip:
Answer this question: why didn't Jordan's kids, Ewings kids, Olajuwon's kids, Isaiah Thomas kids, drexler, Charles Oakley, Anthony masons kids etc make it to the NBA :lupe:

Lebron, Rose and wade had more God given physical skills than Curry out the womb
 

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Be realistic. The only reason this record wasn't attributed to MJ already was because of technicalities.



Wrong! Even if we use your dumb argument and we're not going to factor in or limit how many games were played for the regular season Jordan would still not qualify because he only had 22.7 PPG in 85/86.



:shaq2:So U just gonna ignore Michael Jordan had only 7 starts, injuries, played 24-26min in 18 games and count as that as a real season ....

:usure:

Based on your absurd logic if we can't use MJ's season in 85/86 & count it as a "real season" then we also can't use Jordan's 94/95 stats when he played just 17 games & scored 26.9 before retiring as a "real season" either which would therefore also eliminate MJ having 25 PPG for 12 consecutive years based off your own criteria.

:mjlol:



Coming off a rookie campaign putting up damn near 29 a game... It's a testament to Lebrons eliteness and consistency to officially hold that record.

Sorry but these weak excuses don't fly! Injuries are a part of the game & coming up with what if's, would have, could have scenarios still doesn't make it reality.

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