But he’s getting to the rim, the easiest part of the floor to score from...so sounds like a good basketball player to me.
I never understood the, “if such and such player didn’t have X attribute that they’ve mastered they wouldn’t be that good”
LeBron keeps cookin defenders with this weak ass move
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I never understood the, “if such and such player didn’t have X attribute that they’ve mastered they wouldn’t be that good”
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A great team can protect the 3 pt line & the rim when it matters
DoubleClutch
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Personal expectations decreased once he got that title in Cleveland
Media always blamed lebrons teams “he need more help” so his last years in Cleveland he was playing knowing he wouldn’t win a title
Lebron can shoot naturally not bad but mentally he’s not always locked in and not a pure shooter like other payers you claim he shoots as good as
Stats do not show this
I wanna see Lebron enter a 3 point contest and see how many of you bet on him to win
The man is 3rd all time in leading scoring and yall has in here arguing about Miss America pageants 
Excuse me for having high standards.
Skill and athleticism both matter. A player who is elite in both areas will always be superior to one who is elite in only one area.
This is one of the main reasons his peers always said Kobe was better.
Anybody who has played basketball knows that having a guy hit a jumper in your face time after time when you play perfect defense is far more demoralizing than if a guy gets 5-6 open layups in the game because of breakdowns in your team's pick n roll defense.
When LeBron is effective players still go back to the sideline with their heads up cause they know there are adjustments that can be made to slow him down. When Kobe has it going they go back to the sideline with their heads down knowing they just played as good a defense as they possibly could and Kobe still cooked them.
The emotional effect different styles of play have on basketball players is inherently overlooked by a lot of these analytics cats. Sometimes being less efficient on paper is actually more effective when it comes to winning the game.
And a great player can produce regardless, like Lebron has in every finals except 2011.
But getting back to the topic, so what if Lebron isn’t an elite shooter? He’s good enough that you have to respect it. Yes he thrives in transition, getting to the rim, and controlling the ball. That’s his game. And paired with his physical gifts it seems to be working.
The man is 3rd all time in leading scoring and yall has in here arguing about Miss America pageants
And?
Basketball is like any other form of entertainment. We all watch it to be entertained. And just like how it doesn't matter how much money a boring movie makes, its still a boring movie. Same goes for sports. If a player is boring to watch, then he's boring to watch regardless of how effective he is at his sport.
LebronsHairline
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I think bron was at his best when he was around 260ish when he left cleveland the 1st time, he was rounding out his other skills and didnt give a fukk about dunking on everyone 15 times a game
And of course his game looks clunky dude came in as a rookie quick as a mothafukka at 245 he didnt really need to learn any of those other moves until later on so they arent as polished but still effective as hell
And of course his game looks clunky dude came in as a rookie quick as a mothafukka at 245 he didnt really need to learn any of those other moves until later on so they arent as polished but still effective as hell
He brings in the highest ratings for the nba, so clearly boring isn’t him
. Maybe for you but the facts are on my side
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Superstar
That's the thing, LBJ can't get timely buckets the way other greats can
I watched LBJ statpad when the game was out of hand so many times in the finals. Accumulating stats is a tool for those stans who don't have context behind the #s.
LBJ is a top 10 player of all time but that's shooting flaw cant be overlooked. There's a reason he put up big #s against GS but couldn't hit jumpers when it mattered most. The yr Iggy won FMVP, LBJ was putrid outside the paint. A perimeter superstar should be a threat from every spot of the court.
murksiderock
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Bruh these guys who say Dirk was boring, or Dirk was never amongst the best players in a given year, are guys who a)just shyt on white boys and would shyt on Bird if he played today (because we all know there were brothers who shyt on Bird just because he was white in his own era), and b)guys who watch games more for highlight reel shyt than effective ball...
Dirk wasn't a nonstop highlight reel but when he was cooking he was ripping hearts out and he was a show. The Mavs home arena, you could feel the vibe thru the TV when dude started cooking, that was unique even amongst great players of his era...I loved watching him play...
100, like we could literally play that game with every single player, but for what?
Plus, downplaying Bron's ability to get to the rack is actually a gross oversimplification of his other strengths. I don't get people who say his game isn't pretty to watch, his bag is as deep as anybody we've ever seen...
His peers have tapped Kobe as better because a)all his peers are either younger than Kobe and grew up on Kobe's era as fans of Bean the same way all of us who didn't make the NBA did, and b)his peers were slightly older than LeBron and played more of their careers in Kobe's prime than they did in LeBron's prime...
It's hard to take emotional bias out of questions like this, and its asinine to believe guys who've played have no emotional bias regarding topics such as this...
murksiderock
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You guys spam the board but obviously you're in the minority, as Bron has been the primary driver of revenue, ratings, and entertainment for the NBA for well over a decade...
He brings in the highest ratings for the nba, so clearly boring isn’t him
These dudes are nutty, if somebody really didn't follow the NBA and only read this board, you'd come away believing a bunch of shyt that isn't actually true...
Basketball is a spectator sport. Even if I assumed everything you said about LeBron's effectiveness as player being true (which I don't agree with BTW), why would any of the stuff matter to the average sports fan? Why should I as a fan care about efficiency? I don't have money riding on who wins or loses most basketball games. If I'm gonna take time to sit down and watch a game, I'm doing so because I want to be entertained. I'm not sitting down because I want to see how efficient someone can be. If efficient basketball is what you cared about then you would be watching guys hit open layups in a gym all day over any NBA game.
We watch sports to be entertained. To see things we've never seen before. To witness close games, buzzer beaters, and highlights plays. Downplaying the aesthetics related to sports is retarded. Just accept the fact you like an athlete most consider boring to watch and keep it moving. Trying to act like aesthetics don't matter in sports makes ya'll look silly.
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He brings in the highest ratings for the nba, so clearly boring isn’t him
That's mainly because he's been part of a weak generation stylistically. Kids growing up now don't know any better. And for us older heads we got no choice cause the rest of the NBA sucks as well when it comes to aesthetic styles of play.
If Bron's prime was paired with guys like Iverson, T-Mac, and Vince (as was the case with Kobe in the early 2000s) he would be far less popular. Most kids today would be rocking with Iverson, T-Mac, and Vince instead of LeBron because of their superior style of play. Bron's just lucky he's had dudes with games even uglier than his to compete with in this era like Giannis and Harden.
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