LeBron keeps cookin defenders with this weak ass move

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I like Lebrons brand of bully ball. His guard/perimeter game isnt always the best to look at but his finishing skills are some of the best I’ve ever seen. You don’t have to be a contortionist when you can just erase people with your strength. His left hand is also crazy underrated.
 
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Stop with the Vince Carter plugs...

You know people can actually find receipts to disprove what you're saying? Like this GW Bron hit on Kobe without a screen:



The reality is they gave each other buckets. Saying Kobe embarrassed LeBron is a half-truth, as when they did guard each other, he was prone to either foul LeBron, get backed down, get blown by, or as evidenced in this one clip, get a j drained in his grill...

Not to mention, picks are part of the sport and on this same highlight you can see Kobe hit a j on Bron with the aid of a pick, so let's not pretend Kobe didn't also benefit from the rules of the sport. Buckets are buckets...

There were times he played good D on Bron, and he got his share of baskets on LeBron as well. The major difference is those two usually played in marquee prime time games, and LeBron played routinely bigger. In their overlapping primes, Kobe shot sub-40% a whopping eight times and got 25% of his points at the foul line. You're a competent basketball mind, if a guy shoots 42% overall, in prime time games he plays you, with 25% of his total points coming at the line, what does that tell you?

For me, I understand basketball isn't a 1v1 game, so I don't place a large onus on 1v1 shyt, particularly when guys rarely guard each other. However, when two guys are the anchors of consistently good teams, there has to be some accountability given to how they both perform respective to the stakes and the level of competition (the opponent). I don't need stats to make an argument with LeBron or Kobe, you could watch the games and see who more consistently had the greater impact, and in case you missed it in real time, stats help (not the entirety of the argument, key word "help") put into context what both guys did when playing each other in marquee games...


Good job finding the ONE TIME LeBron got the better of Kobe in a one on one confrontation. I've mentioned many times that the 2008 game in Staples is the one time LeBron got the better of Kobe before Kobe fell off due to injuries and old age.

Now look at all the times Kobe owned LeBron one on one:



That's over 11 minutes of footage from lots of different games.

Now find me a 11+ minute long compilation of clips similar to this of LeBron owning Kobe in actual one on one matchups without the aide of a screen. I'll wait.
 

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Bron vs KD before he joined the Warriors (at least in terms of win/loss)
Yeah, with another MVP in his prime and 2 other all-stars. Even still the overall head to head is 15-6 Bron in RS and 9-5 KD in Postseason with comparable statistics.

Far cry from 16-6 and one-sided stats.
 

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You wanna know whats crazy tho?

Kobe passed it to Walton at the end. I dont ever remember there being SO much news about passing the ball late in the game until recently.

LeBron is the only guy, or the first guy, they put this heavy an emphasis on like this, re: passing the ball late...
 

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LeBron is the only guy, or the first guy, they put this heavy an emphasis on like this, re: passing the ball late...
LeBron passing to Korver late almost gets as much talk as KD hitting the 3 over him. There's far more talk about the Korver missed shot than the next offensive possession.

Kyrie had a 2 for 1 opportunity and essentially milked the clock to hoist up a terrible 3. (Bron's wide open next to him)
 
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Far cry from 16-6 and one-sided stats.

:dahell: Do you actually watch the games or just look up box scores?

I just posted VIDEO EVIDENCE of 11+ minutes of Kobe cooking LeBron when matched up you moron. Find me video evidence anywhere close to that in length of LeBron actually scoring on Kobe.

Bron is great at racking up stats in the pick n roll with shooters spacing the floor for him. But he's never outplayed Kobe in a head to head matchup outside of that one game at Staples in 2008. Every other time they've matched up its either been a no show cause neither guarded each other or Kobe embrassed LeBron.

There's a reason they say TAPE DOESN'T LIE.
 

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:dahell: Do you actually watch the games or just look up box scores?

I just posted VIDEO EVIDENCE of 11+ minutes of Kobe cooking LeBron when matched up you moron. Find me video evidence anywhere close to that in length of LeBron actually scoring on Kobe.

Bron is great at racking up stats in the pick n roll with shooters spacing the floor for him. But he's never outplayed Kobe in a head to head matchup outside of that one game at Staples in 2008. Every other time they've matched up its either been a no show cause neither guarded each other or Kobe embrassed LeBron.

There's a reason they say TAPE DOESN'T LIE.
He was talking about KD.

But still..
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Good job finding the ONE TIME LeBron got the better of Kobe in a one on one confrontation. I've mentioned many times that the 2008 game in Staples is the one time LeBron got the better of Kobe before Kobe fell off due to injuries and old age.

Now look at all the times Kobe owned LeBron one on one:



That's over 11 minutes of footage from lots of different games.

Now find me a 11+ minute long compilation of clips similar to this of LeBron owning Kobe in actual one on one matchups without the aide of a screen. I'll wait.

Bron's teams won more, Bron impacted the games more. Bron took the challenge to guard Kobe more than vice versa.. Look its cute that Kobe hit some isolation fadeaways against Lebron over the course of 22 meetings but that doesn't change the fact that he won 6 games and shot 42.8%.

One thing that highlight video doesn't show is all the bricks he was tossing up around those makes.
 
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He was talking about KD.

But still..
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Regular season games. Cross conference matchups as well. If you wanna hang your hat on those random 2 games each year then so be it.

At the end of the day, when Kobe was in his prime he beat two teams in the Finals that eliminated LeBron. Winning games matters but winning championships matters more.
 
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Bron took the challenge to guard Kobe more than vice versa.

Actually that's false. Here's another 11+ minute video of Kobe guarding LeBron:




Find me TAPE of Bron forcing Kobe to miss all those shots you claim Kobe missed.

I can find lots of clips on YouTube of Kobe getting the best of LeBron. If LeBron had all this statistical success against the Lakers, then you should be able to find even more tape I can of him scoring on Kobe. Thus far all I've seen in that one game in 2008 where I will readily admit LeBron outplayed Kobe. Other than that, I've seen nothing.
 

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Actually that's false. Here's another 11+ minute video of Kobe guarding LeBron:




Find me TAPE of Bron forcing Kobe to miss all those shots you claim Kobe missed.

I can find lots of clips on YouTube of Kobe getting the best of LeBron. If LeBron had all this statistical success against the Lakers, then you should be able to find even more tape I can of him scoring on Kobe. Thus far all I've seen in that one game in 2008 where I will readily admit LeBron outplayed Kobe. Other than that, I've seen nothing.


Lol is that your youtube channel? Kobe fans always have some crazy insecure obsession with Lebron. Fine I'll go through some footage of their 22 meetings this week and take a closer look for you.

And its not IF Lebron had statistical or team success against we KNOW that is the case based on their teams match-up history.
 

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Regular season games. Cross conference matchups as well. If you wanna hang your hat on those random 2 games each year then so be it.

At the end of the day, when Kobe was in his prime he beat two teams in the Finals that eliminated LeBron. Winning games matters but winning championships matters more.
He did. Orlando was a way worse matchup for the Cavs tho. (I still think Lakers would have won in 09...although LeBron was playing at another level in the playoffs)

Technically LeBron played "better" vs. the Celtics and Magic than Kobe those years as well. Truth is the Celtics were the best team and would have 3peated if not for KG's injury. So neither would have won for real if not for that. However, he did so the rest is history.

2010 vs. Celtics
Game score
KB 18.7
LJ 22

next best players
Game Score
Pau 18.6
Mo Will 9.5

2009 vs. Magic
Game Score
KB 22.8
LJ 29.3

Next best players
Game Score
Pau 17.6
Mo Will 10.8

2008 vs. Celtics
Game Score
KB 16.4
LJ 17.5

Next best players
Game Score
Pau 12.4
Big Z 9.4

Lakers got it done so they deserve props. They won when it mattered.
 
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Lol is that your youtube channel? Kobe fans always have some crazy insecure obsession with Lebron. Fine I'll go through some footage of their 22 meetings this week and take a closer look for you.

No its not my channel. I don't get involved in any social media. And we have no obsession with LeBron as Kobe fans. We just love WATCHING Kobe play. We're not obsessed like you guys. We actually like the beauty and style of Kobe's game. Its why videos like these of Kobe are plentiful.

Like I said earlier. Bron stans don't actually like basketball. If they did they wouldn't stan a guy with an unaesthetic style of play. Kobe fans stan Kobe because we love watching him play. Its the main difference between us.
 
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He did. Orlando was a way worse matchup for the Cavs tho. (I still think Lakers would have won in 09...although LeBron was playing at another level in the playoffs)

Technically LeBron played "better" vs. the Celtics and Magic than Kobe those years as well. Truth is the Celtics were the best team and would have 3peated if not for KG's injury. So neither would have won for real if not for that. However, he did so the rest is history.

2010 vs. Celtics
Game score
KB 18.7
LJ 22

next best players
Game Score
Pau 18.6
Mo Will 9.5

2009 vs. Magic
Game Score
KB 22.8
LJ 29.3

Next best players
Game Score
Pau 17.6
Mo Will 10.8

2008 vs. Celtics
Game Score
KB 16.4
LJ 17.5

Next best players
Game Score
Pau 12.4
Big Z 9.4

Lakers got it done so they deserve props. They won when it mattered.

:mjlol: Da fukk is game score?

You analytics nerds crack me up. First of all, you're the one who said winning matters. So when I bring up times when Kobe won games that LeBron lost you bring up analytics you probably don't even understand. LOL.

Try to stay on topic breh. You are the one that said winning trumps everything.
 
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