Lebron's defense

[Originalman]

The fact that within the space of a few games, Lebron could effectively defend athletic bigs like 6'10" Blake Griffin and 7'3" Kristaps Porziņģis on some days, then switch it up to swallow up 6'1" point guards like Kemba Walker and Dennis Schroder on other days, makes no sense at all.

Dude is one of the most versitle defenders to ever play the game.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

If you were paying attention to the Finals, it's fairly easy to dispute.

na..lebron was better


Durant's job was easy compared to lebron's because of how stacked the warrior's were. lebron couldn't even sit because the Cavs would fall to shyt while Warriors lost no ground with Durant sitting

lebron had a bigger load to carry on his end




.he did nothing more than wave ride while only having to provide spot offense while/after resting because his team was so stacked

while durant had the lesser load and couldn't stop lebron

Or we can take a closer look at his bench stench which has not merely been “bad,” but historically putrid. How putrid? It’s worse than you think.

LeBron James can't even afford to spend two minutes on the bench during the Finals.
(Ezra Shaw/Getty Images)
LEBRONS’s BENCH STENCH IN 5 STATS:

1) 12 Points in Two Minutes

The Korver play overshadowed Game 3’s most demoralizing example of LeBron’s bench burden that has lasted his whole career. LeBron played 46 of 48 minutes. Here were the incredible results:



Cavs were +7 points in 46 minutes with LeBron

Cavs were -12 points in 2 minutes with LeBron on the bench

LeBron sat for just two minutes: Game. Series. Rubber Match.

In the same game, Kevin Durant sat seven minutes, and the scoring differential remained the same.

LeBron's astonishing bench stench real reason for Finals losses


and the GM's and current players agree

2017-2018 NBA GM Survey...Feelings about to be hurt

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Lord have mercy. This muh'fukka continues to remind us he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.

 

[UpAndComing]

Is that good graph good or bad?

Fail Math brehs

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Fail Math brehs

Be a stat nerd breh

 

[Voice of Reason]

na..lebron was better


Durant's job was easy compared to lebron's because of how stacked the warrior's were. lebron couldn't even sit because the Cavs would fall to shyt while Warriors lost no ground with Durant sitting

lebron had a bigger load to carry on his end




.he did nothing more than wave ride while only having to provide spot offense while/after resting because his team was so stacked

while durant had the lesser load and couldn't stop lebron

LeBron's astonishing bench stench real reason for Finals losses


and the GM's and current players agree

2017-2018 NBA GM Survey...Feelings about to be hurt

TT was trash that series

 

[Professor Emeritus]

So kd didn't out work him in the playoffs?ok then.
You can't win that argument simply because KD's offense simply outplayed LeBron's defense.You Don't need a big man to recover and block shots if your man ain't blowing by you

And who cares about legendary "jump shooters"that ain't a testament to LeBrons defense, he ain't guarding them,that's a testament to how good the warriors are. LeBron ain't force the ball towards these "legendary jump shooters" kd outplayed him at the SF position.

NO one who gives a shyt about the game would talk like that.

There hasn't been a player in NBA history who could consistently stop KD one-on-one when KD was hot. And the same is true for Jordan, Lebron, Shaq, Curry, Kobe. There are certain elite players in NBA history where you HAVE to have a strong team defense to stop them no matter how good you are as an individual defender.

That doesn't mean that they don't have bad days, or that someone could stop them once. But consistently, when they're hot? Nah, not even Mutombo was gonna keep Shaq down one-on-one, not even Kawhi is going to lock down an on-fire Kobe for a whole series, not even Draymond can defend Lebron by himself.

And to pretend that context doesn't matter, that the fact that Lebron was playing 46-minute games at 32 doesn't matter, that he had to be averaging 33-11-10 AND had to lock down Durant without help or he ain't all that on defense, just rock-brain type shyt. Even Kawhi had to step back on defense last year when his offensive responsibilities increased. The Bulls and the Lakers had to get elite perimeter defenders (Pippen and Artest) to take those responsibilities away from MJ and Kobe so they could focus on offense.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

And to pretend that context doesn't matter, that the fact that Lebron was playing 46-minute games at 32 doesn't matter, that he had to be averaging 33-11-10 AND had to lock down Durant without help or he ain't all that on defense, just rock-brain type shyt. Even Kawhi had to step back on defense last year when his offensive responsibilities increased. The Bulls and the Lakers had to get elite perimeter defenders (Pippen and Artest) to take those responsibilities away from MJ and Kobe so they could focus on offense.

He didn't have to be averaging those #s in the first place (they had more than enough offensive-based players to pick up the slack), he should've been using his energy more wisely instead of trying to plump up his box score numbers.

His #s in the Finals -

Let me start off by saying LeBron has great impact on the game, no one can deny that. However, it isn't because of his box score #s. He manipulates the shyt out of them because of how high is BBIQ is, and the fact he dominates the ball so much:

Nearly 80% of his rebounds are uncontested (a higher percentage than any other player by a significant margin. Conversely only 40% of Draymond's rebounds are uncontested.)
His FG% and points are propped up by scoring in transition and being able to be more selective with his shot
His high assists are due to the fact he handles the ball more than any other player in the series (time of possession: LeBron - 7.9 minutes per game, Irving - 6.2 minutes per game, Curry - 5.2 minutes per game, Durant - 3.6 minutes per game)
To expand on that, when he's dominating the ball he can pick and choose when to score (if it's an easy opportunity) or to pass (when he can't score, and get an assist in the process) more than any other player. If you have your hands on the ball more than any other player you increase your chances of putting up greater box score numbers.

What about his turnovers?
What about his inconsistent, at times horrible defense where he just lets players drive past him? Just because that doesn't show up in the box score why does it make it less important?
When he's been the primary defender, GS is shooting 64% against him (obviously context needs to be applied) -

Why does everything in the box score have more importance than things that aren't recorded in the box score - things that have greater impact on the game? Why do we automatically assume a player is better or performing better because their box score looks better?

 

[Sccit]

LONZO BALL DEFENSE >>>>

 

[7th Letter Specialist]

I just love how he's trailing behind players just to do chase downs.

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

his team defense is aiight
is on ball defense aint all that great, no wear near as good as his miami days

 

[KOBE]

Horizontal axis is offense, vertical axis is defense.

@ this shyt. This is why stats can't be what you use alone otherwise you end up with stupid shyt that suggests Westbrook is an elite defender and that hasn't been awful.

 

[UpAndComing]

Be a stat nerd breh

Trust me breh, Math is your friend. Once you go Stat, you'll never go back

 

[Heelmatic]

LeBron with the elite help defense at 1:15

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

I thought you were a Bron fan. He getting the Harden treatment from you now?

Bron has played exceptional, versatile defense. Draymond is the better rim protector but he can’t guard the perimeter the way Lebron can. You rarely see Draymond guard a team’s best perimeter player.

And smh at accusing him of stat padding like he’s Westbrook or something.

His Warriors stanning has gone into overdrive and now he's taken to posting pathetic machinations trying to diss and downplay a top 2 player of all time. Its like watching a person slip into dementia.