Legacy of Drew Brees?

b. woods

Peace
Joined
May 5, 2012
Messages
43,857
Reputation
14,402
Daps
164,548
Cooks has been a 1,000 yard receiver everywhere he has gone and you’re choosing entirely the wrong angle here. Like arguing Brees didn’t have weapons is a joke, no one wants to hear that shyt like he ever had to deal with the sort of squads Brady or Rodgers had on offense. This is a man who came into the league with LT in the back field and with Antonio Gates drafted to help him. You must think that if you don’t have Peyton weapons then you don’t have weapons. You’re making the case for Brees haters.

Are you familiar with the "Random #s" in N.O.? :usure:

@You know damn well Inform this cat about "#80". :scusthov:

@smitty22 Inform him about that "All-Time Great" Adrian Arrington, Smitty. :mjgrin:

And then there's...

Brandon Coleman :comeon:

Nick Toon :snoop:

Travaris Cadet (the master of the patented "Cadet Package": a 2-yard Out Route on 3rd and Long) :mjlol:

Dan Arnold :hhh:
 

duncanthetall

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Jun 14, 2012
Messages
45,234
Reputation
4,441
Daps
149,052
Reppin
WHODEY/BIGBLUE/SNOWGANG/MIDNIGHTBOYZ
Shoot Big Ben has two rings and nikkas shyt on him still and people don't think a portion of fans won't shyt on Rodgers and start coming with hot takes on him if the Packers lose Sunday? Ha.

But I'm just posting "what if"isms. I expect Rodgers to do what Drew couldn't next Sunday.
Big Ben has 2 rings and, ironically, also raped 2 women.
 

supertrekker

Superstar
Joined
Aug 10, 2015
Messages
7,303
Reputation
85
Daps
17,461
If Brees had the talent that Roethlisberger had, he'd have multiple SBs. Michael Thomas is the best #1 receiver he's played with.

If Ben had the O line that Brees has had he'd been higher on everyone's list. QBs need a shield just as much as weapons.
 

supertrekker

Superstar
Joined
Aug 10, 2015
Messages
7,303
Reputation
85
Daps
17,461
Top 10. Did it at 6 feet, made the Saints relevant, brought a championship post-Katrina, stupid numbers and longevity. :manny:

Those stupid numbers came from stupid rules. Montana did it 4 times at 6 feet.
 

thelonious21

I like my women tall
Joined
May 8, 2012
Messages
13,966
Reputation
1,207
Daps
26,490
Reppin
Da Hood
I'll remember when he was "DREW BREEEEEEEEESE" :whew:

ion member what year it was.. but :ohlawd:

And for the fact the Chargers got rid of him and the Phinz was like :patrice:

And he went to N.O. and was ballllin..





But then you learn he a fukking MAGA insurrectionist and its like :martin::camby:
 

FTBS

Superstar
Joined
May 29, 2012
Messages
20,561
Reputation
3,642
Daps
56,098
Reppin
NULL
I can see the Nash comparable, I didn't see it at first...

No one is gonna rank Brees over Manning. They were only 3 football years apart (Manning drafted in '98, Brees in '01) and we saw their careers overlap for 15 seasons. They are squarely the same era of QB. Brees had about a 3-season run where you can definitely argue he was Manning's equal, '09 to '11. The issue is we saw both of their careers before '09 and it isnt close, and we saw Manning's comeback run in '12 thru '14, there's too much on the board to put Brees on Manning's level...

Rodgers is a much more digestible comparison, though it does feel like Rodgers is putting distance on it. They are only 4 years apart but in actuality Rodgers career not beginning until '08, they've shared 13 seasons together. Rodgers almost feels like he's of the '10s era, he isn't truly of the Manning/Brady/Brees era, those guys are way older than him (football years), he's more of the Wilson/Ryan/Flacco/Cam era of quarterbacks. And just like with Manning, there absolutely is a window where a)Brees was better than Rodgers---->in '09, following Brees' MVP-worthy season and subsequent Super Bowl, nobody was saying "Aaron Rodgers is a better quarterback than Drew Brees"...

And b)that 2011 MVP race was alot more hotly debated than people want to remember here 9+ years later. That was really the first time you started hearing Rodgers vs Brees debate and at the time, while that's when the whole "Rodgers may be the most gifted thrower of the football" talk began, there was no consensus Rodgers was better than Brees. Brees was squarely in his prime and putting up historic numbers on a perennial contender, the only thing '11 changed is it vaulted Rodgers into the conversation with the three OGs...

As I mentioned upthread, at this point Rodgers has played 13 years and its fairly clear he's jumped Brees, and it feels like he's also putting some distance between them, but it certainly wasn't always that way; he wasnt always better than Brees the way Manning was always better than Brees. The separation and subsequent consensus favoring of Rodgers over Brees came in the 2012-16 window when Brees missed the playoffs 4/5 years and we saw Rodgers get back to two NFCCG's, win another MVP, lead a flawed Pack team to the postseason despite being hurt half the year, play thru various injuries, and carry multiple flawed Pack teams beyond their talent level while Brees was going 7-9 with similar talent. Somewhere in that window is when the consensus shifted to Rodgers over Brees but its never been by as much as Rodgers homers want folks to believe...


Respect on keeping it 1000 as usual.

Breh it was either last year or the year prior when the "Can we put Brees over Peyton if they win?" talk started. They copped an L, he got no heat and everyone moved on. And that's the main thing that I am comparing...both get their share of elite credit but neither has ever gotten that elite blame. You see we immediately shifted to eulogizing him, rather than dwelling on how shytty he was in that last game. Meanwhile, we still dwelling on how shytty Peyton was in his last year and he won the SB. It's not beyond the realm of possibility for Brees to get that Nash post-career bump.
 

Remote

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Aug 29, 2013
Messages
82,322
Reputation
25,505
Daps
371,138
A very good quarterback.

But it does feel like he underachieved somewhat. I agree with some who say he's always been in that Top 5 range of quarterbacks in his career. But he never really separated himself at any point the way Brady, Manning and Rodgers did.

For as talented as he was, 1 Super Bowl appearance seems like a disappointment. Even if he did win it.
 

Splakavellie504

Superstar
Joined
Dec 30, 2016
Messages
2,952
Reputation
2,806
Daps
21,593
Its clear that alot of yall are just casuals and never really watched Brees and the Saints like that. Yall just running with bullshyt takes that yall have seen on tv or twitter.
 

NOSaintsFan02

Superstar
Joined
Jun 4, 2012
Messages
12,640
Reputation
2,022
Daps
56,850
2018 really changed his legacy man. If we get the call in the NFCCG and go on to beat Tom and the Pats, the convo around Brees is so much different. :wow:

This was the year he broke the passing record on MNF to amazing fanfare too. :banderas:

It's amazing how one game can alter a whole legacy and Brees didn't even have anything directly to do with it. The ref makes the obvious PI call and suddenly Brees and Payton are seen in a whole new light. Life really ain't fair brehs:whoo:
 
Top