Let me find out Eminem is low key underated as a producer "The Coli told me he was trash"

[Deltron]

Yep! Exactly bro. On the mixtape circuit they had green lantern on there saying Muggs. It’s also why Em references Cypress Hill on his verse.

And then if you hear the album version there are some extra zany keys in the beginning that Em added. But that’s all he did.

also it made no real sense why yayo would shoutout Soul Assassins without them being involved

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

He didn’t produce On Fire. He strong armed his way into thinking people he did that beat (and Many Men) because he sprinkled a few keys at the end of both beats.

I could be wrong but off memory I’m 99% sure that Kwame produced On Fire.

Edit:

Kwamé Recalls Almost Getting Jerked By Eminem Over Lloyd Banks 'On Fire' Production Credit

In this DXCLUSIVE, Kwamé recalls how not being present in studio for a Lloyd Banks session almost resulted in Eminem commandeering a production credit.

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White man always stealing smh

Em so rich he don't need it

 

[Mastamimd]

Use Twitter, an app infested with white supremacist troll Eminem stans, as a gauge for reality brehs

 

[Left.A1]

I always liked this beat from Em

 

[JustCKing]

I mean he was on the scratch magazine cover just a few issues in and was propped up a lot in the 00’s. He was one of the few cats to produce for Nas or Jay when they weren’t going outside or their camps very much. He was able to produce a whole Pac album. He definitely had some buzz.

Yes, he had buzz, but I don't remember him being considered great. Scratch was an extension of XXL, so it's not a surprise he had a cover. Eminem was giving out free beats. I think he asked to be a part of Pac's Resurrection and because of the success of "Runnin", he was allowed to helm Loyalty to the Game, which definitely was wack outside the tracks Em didn't do.

 

[Low End Derrick]

Em is/was trash as a producer

The Coli's right on that one.

 

[JustCKing]

All em did was add strings to Many Men

Had Eric Cartman singing on Runnin

Had Pac saying G-Unit on that album he did

Em was fukkin trash as a producer

That Rakim song isn't produced by Em. He did more than add strings to "Many Men". Again, ya'll equate making a beat to producing a song, which is in error. Nas had the original "Many Men" beat first and even made a song with it, but it is unreleased. That beat possibly sounds different than what we hear with 50.

There's a reason those strings are added and why Eminem even did anything to the beat in the first place. Production is marrying the artist with the music and whatever needs to be done to accomplish that (adding, subtracting, adjusting the volume on instruments) is a part of that process even if it crosses over into engineering.

 

[Grand_Verbalizer]

Em’s production is analog-ish. His snares are horrible and his beats are not full and well produced. These sound like skeletons. Some of his later stuff might’ve been a bit more well produced but they’re nothing special

I'm not saying his production is good in any way, I'm sayin you're using the wrong terminology

this is analog sounding shyt



or most of the beats in here

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/post-a-dope-track-with-a-rhodes-electric-piano.975812/

 

[FappleMeOff]

People have nostalgia for those songs, not the beats. If anything, the beats hold the majority of those songs back

 

[x-factor7]

Video didn’t add anything from the 8 Mile OST or the Eminem Show, which has his best production work

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Renegade was fire

Renegade definitely ain't bad and at the same time I've always thought the rapping elevated the production big time. I feel like if anyone just got that on a beat tape and we didn't know who produced it that we'd skip right on to the next beat.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

People have nostalgia for those songs, not the beats. If anything, the beats hold the majority of those songs back

Daps and rep. This is super true. Also, everyone on those beats were heavyweights. 50, Dre, Jay, Nas...Em for the most part had superstars on so many of his beats that nobody was really listening for the production anyways. I also remember he said he gave The Cross and Moment of Clarity to Nas and Jay for free. I always wondered if he offered them for free and they felt some extra pressure to use them...probably not, but I like to think that as an Em hater.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

Video didn’t add anything from the 8 Mile OST or the Eminem Show, which has his best production work

Yeah those 2 joints were him at his peak on production, and the sound hadn't been run into the ground yet. That was like '02 right? That Aftermath sound wasn't stale quite yet.

That Love Me joint on 8 Mile with 50 and Obie was pretty dope. Till I Collapse was dope. The 8 Mile title track was cool.

Edit: I'd add Devil's Night by D12 too. Also 2002 I think. Instigator was hard as fukk and Pistol Pistol was dope.

 

[Heavy_Handz]

Renegade definitely ain't bad and at the same time I've always thought the rapping elevated the production big time. I feel like if anyone just got that on a beat tape and we didn't know who produced it that we'd skip right on to the next beat.

That song is epic & the beat definitely plays it’s part. I do think that beat is fire. Thought that since the first time I played it when I heard the album leak before it dropped. I didn’t know Eminem produced that when I first heard it.

 

[O³ (O cubed)]

He's aight. Like most of his albums.