Let's define SOUL

you're NOT "n!ggas"

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The discussion has been focused on music so far but I'm sure we can all agree that Soul is our overall "swag" (which is just an updated term) so keep that in mind as you share.

we are the children of the drum/africa.
if a artist aint hitting you with some
lyrics or notes that dont make you
cut these faces during the song....it aint soul.
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What does that have to do with having Soul?
 

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Soul isn't something you define. Either you got it or you don't. Either you can experience it or you can't.

Soul is part of the Sublime, it's a mystical experience of charisma and aesthetic. You can define aspects of Soul, but Soul itself, nah.
 

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I've posed this question before, but what exactly is it??? :jbhmm:
And what is it that makes US as African Americans have it over other groups such as whites, asians, hispanics etc.


Discuss :hubie:

This is a tough question to answer in 2019 because much of current African American culture is devoid of
what we once referred to as "soul."

I do notice that Generation Woke tends to refer to a term such as "blackness" more than any previous generations, but I don't believe that term is synonymous with soul.

Soul is a spiritual and emotional feeling conveyed through expression.

It is an unspoken language from our essence that is sent and received.

Its beauty WAS that it was difficult to define, but you knew it when you heard it and saw it.
 
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This is a tough question to answer in 2019 because much of current African American culture is devoid of
what we once referred to as "soul."

I do notice that Generation Woke tends to refer to a term such as "blackness" more than any previous generations, but I don'r believe that term is synonymous with soul.

Soul is a spiritual and emotional feeling conveyed through expression.

It is an unspoken language from our essence that is sent and received.

Its beauty WAS that it was difficult to define, but you knew it when you heard it and saw it.
Soul is spiritual... :jbhmm:



Any thoughts on what that spirit is or where it comes from?
 

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hard to put into words.

but pictures though. compare these two.

soul and in sync with the universe.
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out of sync with the universe. dancing like a soulless machine might. so out of sync that they cannot see how out of sync they are.
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if you programmed a robot that is how it would move.
 

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Aight, I think I'm ready to share. I came to the notion a while back that "soul" is the africanisms that survived the middle passage and enslavement. That's what makes it so hard to define-- we're not able to source it most of the time. Googling around, a found this article SAGE Journals: Your gateway to world-class journal research there's a login wall, but you can register and read it for free with a google account. A few excerpts:

LeRoi Jones considered another aspect of African American musice when he wrote that "The call-and-response form of Africa (lead and chorus) has never left us, as a mode of musical expression. It has come down both as vocal and instrumental form. Herskovitz continues this train of thought with the observation that "The pattern whereby the statement of theme by a leader is repeated by a chorus, or a short choral phrase is balanced as a refrain against a longer melodic line sung by the soloist, is fundamental and has been commented on by all who have heard Negroes sing in Africa or elsewhere." . . . . Every being born in the world has a soul, but not everyone has soul. Soul in this context is the socioethnic phenomenon peculiar to African Americans as manifested in the retention of African elements in African American culture in the United States.

Cool, but it doesn't really mean anything without a tangible example right??? Here's where it gets dope :whoo:

Maude Cuney-Hare, in here early work "Negro Musicians and Their Music" cites the experience of a Bishop Fisher of Calcutta who traveled to Central Africa:
... in Rhodesia he had heard natives sing a melody so closely resembling "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot" that he felt that he had found it in its original form: moreover, the region near the great Victoria Falls has a custom from which the song arose. When one of the chiefs in the olden days was about to die, he was placed in a great canoe together with trappings that marked his rank, and food for his journey. The canoe was set afloat in midstream headed toward the great Falls that rises from them. Meanwhile the tribe on the shore would sing its chant of farewell. The legend is that on one occasion the king was seen to rise in his canoe at the very brink of the Falls and enter a chariot that, descending from the mist, bore him aloft. This incident gave rise to the words of "Swing Low, Sweet Chariot" and the song, brought to America by African slaves long ago, became anglicized and modified by their Christian faith.

Quick youtube search and I find this

The video description says: "We were greeted by a chorus of 'Swing Low Sweet Chariot" prior to embarking on a Sundowner Cruise. Filmed at the Zambezi River, Zimbabwe"


And where is Victoria Falls located??? On the Zambezi river :banderas: :blessed:



That's soul :wow:
 

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Can’t be defined. You either have it or don’t. Definitions and stipulations are what them white folks do to ruin shyt.
 

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soul is what us black folks got :blessed:

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lacking soul is lack of movement, empathy and sympathy i would even say robotic...kinda like a cac :jbhmm:
 
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The drum is essentially the basis for communication and music. We as Africans and the descendants of such have been ingrained with the rhythm since the dawn of mankind, it speaks and it resonates within us like a glow. This is why our music is objectively the best because that innate glow has been shaped by joy love pain loss struggle and everything in between.
 

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This is a tough question to answer in 2019 because much of current African American culture is devoid of
what we once referred to as "soul."


I do notice that Generation Woke tends to refer to a term such as "blackness" more than any previous generations, but I don't believe that term is synonymous with soul.

Soul is a spiritual and emotional feeling conveyed through expression.

It is an unspoken language from our essence that is sent and received.

Its beauty WAS that it was difficult to define, but you knew it when you heard it and saw it.



i've heard this before but i don't think that's true. chris brown dancing to no flockin on youtube is hella soulful just like listening to best part by h.e.r. and daniel caeser. i think zion williamson & saquon barkley have a soulful way to how they play their respective sports. the way kodak black raps on the second verse of pimpin ain't eazy is soulful too, same for that 12 year old kid lay lay who raps in the car with her dad


i'll readily admit that we have quite a few swagless non soulful black folks in the mainstream now. issa rae & donald glover come to mind right away lol... but i don't think we'll ever lose that essence as a people, that's why them ofays hate us so much, in large part it's contingent on resentment and jealousy
 
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