Lets revisit No Limit's historic 1998

[lamontep49]

i had a cousin that bought every album in that stretch plus more that no limit put out

 

[Alvin]

I'm not sure, I don't recall him going to prison..

He may have went but I thought dude was out

that's why he wasn't on ghetto D, he was in jail for a robbery or burglary

 

[Alvin]

I think it is, I say that because Mac's WW3 is better than shell shocked.

I think Mac or maybe P said that Mac's shell shocked really wasn't him, he was just going with what was hot at the time, the formula P created.

I think WW3 you really got to see Mac as a true artist, he told more in-depth stories and dug deep...don't get me wrong Shell Shocked is still a solid album but I can ride from New Orleans to Houston listening to that WW3 none stop.

Fiend album was great...That is a solid ass album..He was on B-High show and he talked about the process of making that album and how he had set backs trying to make it...Him and P bumped heads on that album but he said P pushed the best out of him it to me it showed.

That album is solid, and again yes I'd put that album over Shell Shocked

lyrically shell shocked was dope, but is WW3 than much better? how is the production on that second album bc that was when beats by the pound started leaving and on his first O'Dell laced that man

 

[Alvin]

Clearly the best out of the Gambinos, always brought that energy and grittyness. Loved his verse on C's Survival Of The Fittest

Just like Holloway was easily the best Ghetto Commission spitter (G-Spade had some gems too), Uzi the best Prime Suspects spitter (Glock and New-9 were pretty awful)

New-9 is Mac's cousin, Glock (aka Gangsta T from Bounce Dat Azz off Down South Hustlers) is the Miller's cousin

crazy! i was wondering who gangsta T was off that compilation
I wish king george never left, P's right hand before big boz

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

Bruh only east coast nikkas wasnt listenin to NL n evem cam did that bout it remake so actually there was nikkas in ny fukkin wot em, east coast just had the most haters

If you count D.C. as the East then NL was heavily respected. Ask anyone from the 90s they prolly still stan NL to this day. shyt just had that raw sound to it plus it blended the Bay sound with the NL sound perfectly.

I was a total Pac stan back then so the Pac biting had me not fukkin wit em. But once I went back later, No Limit was a historic label. Black owned and operated independently, arguably the most G'd up label in Hip Hop history considering a good deal of their artists were nothing more than goons, the owner was a straight boss, and behind them were even more dangerous goons. I mean, Snoop signed with P when he left Suge....I'm sure that was for more than just musical purposes.

Plus there were great artists at NL, Fiend gotta be one of the most, if not the most, underrated and underappreciated rappers(and lyric writers) in Hip Hop history, Mac is a fukkin tragedy considering where he was headed with his music and would've change the narrative that would come later regarding the south, C had talent and was also an absolute fukkin nut, no words for Soulja that nikka a legend. I can only imagine how things would've gone had P focused on NL and not expanded into other ventures. Definitely would've been interesting to see how CMR woulda turned out had NL sustained that run into the early-00s. Still wish we could've had the CMR/NL compilation album.....or at least one song with Mac, Fiend, Soulja, C, B.G., and Juve.....woulda been the realest shyt ever recorded.

What a wonderful run, it's jams from the best tapes to the solid tapes. [Master]INDEPENDENT....BLACK OWNED![/P]


Pimp's verse is just
Pimp's verse is just
I had to put them two, those are both top 5 UGK collabs ever. Pimp's verse on Slangin gotta be my favorite ever, that nikka lost it.
<----The intro, the beat, this is honestly an amazing song.




<---Mothafukkin jam....:bishop:

I gotta chill out, I'ma be posting youtube links all night jammin.

 

[Alvin]

@NO-BadAzz
favorite beats by the pound producer?
what's your top NL album?
Opinions on Mia X?

 

[Alvin]

If you count D.C. as the East then NL was heavily respected. I was a total Pac stan back then so the Pac biting had me not fukkin wit em. But once I went back later, No Limit was a historic label. Black owned and operated independently, arguably the most G'd up label in Hip Hop history considering a good deal of their artists were nothing more than goons, the owner was a straight boss, and behind them were even more dangerous goons.

Plus there were great artists at NL, Fiend gotta be one of the most, if not the most, underrated and underappreciated rappers(and lyric writers) in Hip Hop history, Mac is a fukkin tragedy considering where he was headed with his music and would've change the narrative that would come later regarding the south, C had talent and was also an absolute fukkin nut, no words for Soulja that nikka a legend. I can only imagine how things would've gone had P focused on NL and not expanded into other ventures. Definitely would've been interesting to see how CMR woulda turned out had NL sustained that run into the early-00s. Still wish we could've had the CMR/NL compilation album.....or at least one song with Mac, Fiend, Soulja, C, B.G., and Juve.....woulda been the realest shyt ever recorded.

What a wonderful run, it's jams from the best tapes to the solid tapes. [Master]INDEPENDENT....BLACK OWNED![/P]


Pimp's verse is just
Pimp's verse is just
I had to put them two, those are both top 5 UGK collabs ever. Pimp's verse on Slangin gotta be my favorite ever, that nikka lost it.
<----The intro, the beat, this is honestly an amazing song.




<---Mothafukkin jam....:bishop:

I gotta chill out, I'ma be posting youtube links all night jammin.

Hotboy Jimmy beat down Pimp C with P
Kane & abel had a trafficking charge and the DA wanted them to indict P, they remained solid and took that charge and served their time
Big Ed, Serv-On, C-Murder, Magic, Mac, Big Vee, Big Mann, Vercy Carter, Big Boz was ready to catch a murder for the tank
P had goons on that label, only label that wasn't afraid of prime suge, ask snoop

 

[AFRAM GLORY]

lyrically shell shocked was dope, but is WW3 than much better? how is the production on that second album bc that was when beats by the pound started leaving and on his first O'Dell laced that man

Mane O'Dell and C-Los had some FIRE ass production. To me they were the funky fingers and barewolf of NL. So fukkin underrated its a shame

 

[OHSNAP!]

Mane O'Dell and C-Los had some FIRE ass production. To me they were the funky fingers and barewolf of NL. So fukkin underrated its a shame

true they had some great beats, but for me it went like this:

1995-97 KLC and Mo B dikk churned out the best beats bar none, check out Ice Cream Man, The Shocker or Tru 2 Da Game, some of No Limit's most iconic songs (Bout It, No Limit Soldiers...)

1998 Craig B (check out his work on Charge It 2 Da Game, his cuts on Da Game Is To Be Sold are way underrated) and O'Dell had the best beats in my eyes. Mo B didn't produce too many cuts, KLC's beats started getting repetitive here & there. Carlos had his best stuff on Da Last Don and his boys Ghetto Commission albums



1999 O'Dell (stuff on TRU, Mercedes albums was fire, his Foolish single with Porsha was top notch R&B shyt) was the clear cut best BBTP producer, followed by Ke'Noe (Ride On Dem Bustas!)
then BBTP (KLC, Mo B, Craig B, O'Dell) left in the summer. after that Carlos took over, while Soulja Productions (XL, Suga Bear) and Ke'Noe handled the rest

 

[OHSNAP!]

Hotboy Jimmy beat down Pimp C with P
Kane & abel had a trafficking charge and the DA wanted them to indict P, they remained solid and took that charge and served their time
Big Ed, Serv-On, C-Murder, Magic, Mac, Big Vee, Big Mann, Vercy Carter, Big Boz was ready to catch a murder for the tank
P had goons on that label, only label that wasn't afraid of prime suge, ask snoop

yeah all the bodyguards (Swoll, Big Mane, V-90, Big Man) were brutal really intimidating guys. Hot Boy Jimmy and Boz were very wellknown for their connections and tactics, dudes you wouldn't wanna mess with...Soulja Slim and his cousin Full Blooded and his Hounds, Prime Suspects, Gambino Family, Popeye, Steady Mobb'n, Skull Duggery and all the lesser known smaller NL acts were real headbusters and straight up killers

 

[AFRAM GLORY]

true they had some great beats, but for me it went like this:

1995-97 KLC and Mo B dikk churned out the best beats bar none, check out Ice Cream Man, The Shocker or Tru 2 Da Game, some of No Limit's most iconic songs (Bout It, No Limit Soldiers...)

1998 Craig B (check out his work on Charge It 2 Da Game, his cuts on Da Game Is To Be Sold are way underrated) and O'Dell had the best beats in my eyes. Mo B didn't produce too many cuts, KLC's beats started getting repetitive here & there. Carlos had his best stuff on Da Last Don and his boys Ghetto Commission albums



1999 O'Dell (stuff on TRU, Mercedes albums was fire, his Foolish single with Porsha was top notch R&B shyt) was the clear cut best BBTP producer, followed by Ke'Noe (Ride On Dem Bustas!)
then BBTP (KLC, Mo B, Craig B, O'Dell) left in the summer. after that Carlos took over, while Soulja Productions (XL, Suga Bear) and Ke'Noe handled the rest

 

[OHSNAP!]

I think it is, I say that because Mac's WW3 is better than shell shocked.

I think Mac or maybe P said that Mac's shell shocked really wasn't him, he was just going with what was hot at the time, the formula P created.

I think WW3 you really got to see Mac as a true artist, he told more in-depth stories and dug deep...don't get me wrong Shell Shocked is still a solid album but I can ride from New Orleans to Houston listening to that WW3 none stop.

Fiend album was great...That is a solid ass album..He was on B-High show and he talked about the process of making that album and how he had set backs trying to make it...Him and P bumped heads on that album but he said P pushed the best out of him it to me it showed.

That album is solid, and again yes I'd put that album over Shell Shocked

@Oldhead @beaniemac

I'd say WW3 (best lyricism displayed on a No Limit album, and some fire beats) and There's One In Every Family (just perfect, no weak link in here, maybe the Gambinos/Prime Suspects/Magic posse cut) are 5/5 bonafide classic albums, while Shell Shocked (one street anthem after another, mixing was messed up on a few tracks, had 2 or 3 average/below-average songs) and Street Life (gritty and grimey) are 4.5/5





that's why I never understand these NY cats or people that generally didn't listen to alot of No Limit hatin' on 'em...these guys never heard Fiend's and Mac's albums and many other great tunes (Kane&Abel, Mia X etc). I'd listen to those Fiend/Mac albums over any Wu-Tang/Mobb Deep/ATCQ tune

 

[Jack Trippa 3z company ho]

Then closed the year out with the Fury. I remember it like it was yesterday. I was working at Chick-Fil-A at the mall & saw Boz & a few big dudes with him all charmed up with the NL pieces. He autographed my napkin after he placed his order but when I tried to tell him I could rap he wasn't hearing all that.
About a week or 2 later I see this article in the paper.

Dog I feel like this story needs more context. It's like the first half of this story you deleted.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

that's why he wasn't on ghetto D, he was in jail for a robbery or burglary

I think C was on Ghetto D

He was on about 3 or 4 songs.

Dude was out of jail, he was in the I miss my homie video with P.

Again, I'm not sure on his album being delayed, but he had ppl waiting for it.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

lyrically shell shocked was dope, but is WW3 than much better? how is the production on that second album bc that was when beats by the pound started leaving and on his first O'Dell laced that man

With WW3, Mac got his own team to do production. I honestly can't recall if BBTP did any production on that album. I remember hearing P letting Mac go off and do him outside from the standard format P had with his albums. Man it's a interview Serv-On gave where he breaks down the format P had them to do for their 1st albums. Serv-On broke down a lot of behind the scenes thing in that interview Best interview I heard about NL. Moby dikk did the same on B High, but to get back on point, Mac's production on his second album was more mellow, the production capture his style more so it did on Shell Shocked.
He had good production on Shell Shocked, don't get me wrong, but I just feel WW3 production was a better fit for him. More to his style than anything (to me)