Let's settle this, did Steee Nash deserve one, both, or neither MVP award? (poll)

[FlyRy]

People who said neither are clueless.

or just laker fans

 

[nairdas]

Definitely deserved that first one. The suns were fukking lost without him any time he wasn't playing.

 

[Regular_P]

they were 2nd in the west without amare.. and 3RD overall

Dallas and San Antonio both had better records than them; Detroit in the east. They won 54 games. Let's not act like they had an all-time great season.

 

[Kufismack]

SMUSH PARKER. That is all. Kobe should've been MVP.

 

[FlyRy]

Dallas and San Antonio both had better records than them; Detroit in the east. They won 54 games. Let's not act like they had an all-time great season.

breh you tried to slip them down a spot..they were 2nd place..in the western conference ..without their dominant all-star big man.. stop trying to downplay that

kurt thomas started 50 games for them

that team was small as fukk

 

[rapbeats]

If you think kobe deserved mvp you're an idiot.Name the last nba mvp that was on a 7 seed.You gotta go way back to the 60's or 70's

the last man to score over 77 points was some guy from the 60's 70's...wilt. so yeah when you have a guy on a tear like that and throwing up dream numbers and dragging a SORRRRRRRRY team into the playoffs int he tough west. you give that man the MVP award. if for nothing else. its going to be 40 years before you see those numbers again and that kind of will.

westbrook is going crazy outchea. but his team aint kwame brown, luke walton and brian cook, with smush parker. stop it. any nucca that can drag those clowns into the 8th seed in that tight west conf is a MVP in my book. whoever that may be.

 

[FlyRy]

the last man to score over 77 points was some guy from the 60's 70's...wilt. so yeah when you have a guy on a tear like that and throwing up dream numbers and dragging a SORRRRRRRRY team into the playoffs int he tough west. you give that man the MVP award. if for nothing else. its going to be 40 years before you see those numbers again and that kind of will.

westbrook is going crazy outchea. but his team aint kwame brown, luke walton and brian cook, with smush parker. stop it. any nucca that can drag those clowns into the 8th seed in that tight west conf is a MVP in my book. whoever that may be.

MVP's don't lose a 3-1 lead and quit in game 7

 

[rapbeats]

MVP's don't lose a 3-1 lead and quit in game 7

sure they do, when they have kwame brown, brian cook, luke walton, and smush parker on their team. all of these guys were out of the nba before they turned 30 except for kwame because he was a big man. what does that tell you?

i could also reverse that .....a #2 seed with that much allstar talent doesnt go down 3-1 to kwame brown, brian cook, luke walton, and smush parker. so who is the real...fake mvp of that season?

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

i could also reverse that .....a #2 seed with that much allstar talent doesnt go down 3-1 to kwame brown, brian cook, luke walton, and smush parker. so who is the real...fake mvp of that season?

'08 Celtics fukked around and had a game seven with the Hawks. Then they went on to win the East and torched the Lakers in the finals.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

sure they do, when they have kwame brown, brian cook, luke walton, and smush parker on their team. all of these guys were out of the nba before they turned 30 except for kwame because he was a big man. what does that tell you?

i could also reverse that .....a #2 seed with that much allstar talent doesnt go down 3-1 to kwame brown, brian cook, luke walton, and smush parker. so who is the real...fake mvp of that season?

So your argument against the Suns is they had a bad series they won anyway? The 2010 lakers were one miss away from playing 7 games with the 8 seed in round one. The 2008 celtics were pushed to 7 by the Hawks and the cavaliers. Losing stat all season and winning 54 games with averages of 19/4/11.5 on a 50/40/90 clip while reaching the conference finals is far more impressive than scoring a ton while being .500 and quitting in game 7 and then blaming it on your teammates. Nash earned every bit of that mvp award. There's no argument. Shaq in 2005 is a strong argument though. Big guy got hosed twice before that race anyways smh

 

[FlyRy]

sure they do, when they have kwame brown, brian cook, luke walton, and smush parker on their team. all of these guys were out of the nba before they turned 30 except for kwame because he was a big man. what does that tell you?

i could also reverse that .....a #2 seed with that much allstar talent doesnt go down 3-1 to kwame brown, brian cook, luke walton, and smush parker. so who is the real...fake mvp of that season?

at the bolded im cuz im not sure what you are arguing. Nash led the suns 1 game further than the year before without his beast of a PF. He deserved that MVP

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I voted "neither", but I would accept one. Some of the arguments on this thread are just stupid though.

I voted neither. IMO Kobe should have won both of those years.

Kobe deserved both word 2 Obama

2004-2005: Averaged 24/5/5 on 44% shooting, missed 17 games, team went 34-48.

MVP! MVP!

Kobe Stans are the best.

 

[Regular_P]

breh you tried to slip them down a spot..they were 2nd place..in the western conference ..without their dominant all-star big man.. stop trying to downplay that

kurt thomas started 50 games for them

that team was small as fukk

Dallas had 60 wins; San Antonio had 64. That's third best record in a down year for the league as a whole

 

[GreatestLaker]

I voted "neither", but I would accept one. Some of the arguments on this thread are just stupid though.






2004-2005: Averaged 24/5/5 on 44% shooting, missed 17 games, team went 34-48.

MVP! MVP!

Kobe Stans are the best.

Kobe averaged 27.6/6.0/5.9/1.3/0.8 in 2004-05

I agree Kobe wasn't the MVP that year. Missed too may games, but there is no need to make up stats.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

JKIDD used to dominate games without even scoring I'm not sure if anyone in the league besides LBJ can claim that

There's been other guys who could claim that. Duncan, Magic, Walton, Russell come to mind first.

He didn't deserve any MVPs. It's a complete joke that he has one MVP, much less two.

15 ppg for an MVP?

Don't know much bball history?

MVP 1958 Russell: 16.6ppg
MVP 1961 Russell: 16.9ppg
MVP 1962 Russell: 18.9ppg
MVP 1963 Russell: 16.8ppg
MVP 1965 Russell: 14.1ppg
MVP 1969 Unseld: 13.8ppg
MVP 1978 Walton: 18.9ppg

And that was during an era with way more shots and tons of scoring. Walt had his 50ppg and 100-point games in that era, and guys still winning MVPs for scoring in the teens.

The right guy can certainly deserve MVP with 15ppg. The bigger issue for me is that someone won MVP while being so worthless on defense.