Lil Wayne Fans Are Rewriting History

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Nah he was a literal Jay stan at one point. nikka wanted to mimic everything he did after Jay Z and literally said he stopped writing his bars on paper since he found out his favorite rapper Jay Z didn't.

He could still be a Jay stan and have Missy as his favorite rapper. Both could be true at the same time. A song like :A Milli" is far more Missy Elliott than it is Jay Z.
 

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That's BS. They knew Wayne was a star too and were pushing him as hard as Juve and B.G

On CMR's first Universal release How U Luv That Wayne is all over that album. He's on 10/11 songs which is more than half the album

Juvenile said he knew he had to get Wayne on Back That Azz Up in some fashion

Wayne doesn't have a verse on the album version of Bling Bling but he's the reason for the hook. There's no Bling Bling without him



Seeing star quality in someone doesn't mean they are a star. Wayne was not a star until the mid '00's. That's a fact. A Wayne album wasn't an event.

Jay Z had star quality, but he wasn't actually a star until the late 90's though he was out here since the late 80's.
 

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Wayne was not a mega star until like 2007. Nobody looked at Wayne like that.

Juvenile was the go to feature from the Hot Boys. You could say the same for B.G.
Not really putting dates on it, I'm just saying people knew who would have hits outside of Louisiana pretty much out the gate. B.G peaked after Chopper city in the ghetto, drop Checkmate and then went to jail like 10 years later, most knew he wasn't gonna make it because he was really really in the streets.

This is a lie. Juve and B.G were the stars of the Hot Boys. Wayne became popular. Bling Bling was a BG song and Wayne wasn't even on the album version of that shyt. Turk was. Anyone who acts like Wayne was the star of Hot Boys are either too young to remember or straight up cap.
Wayne quickly took B.G's shine once the hot boys formed. Not locally like talking about but it was still a big shift, the more stuff wayne was one the more people wanted to hear from him. B.G had street creds and was authentic, him and Juve was way more popular locally and regionally than wayne initially but that was changing pretty quickly.

Like I was saying wayne was taking spots on singles and being added to songs as you pointed out.
 

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The Carter got him a lot of fans, myself included

I remember a lot of hype off the Sqad tapes but 500 Degreez wasn't very good - Carter felt like it delivered on that potential
 

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:heh: sorry, breh. He sorta right.

BG and Juvie's sales prolly got them the Universal deal

but post that, the stars were Juvie and the big tymers.

Wayne first got big on any level cause nationwide folks were wondering why Juvie was being shunned for Wayne by Birdman.

Wayne legit was on one of those BET video shows saying (with Juvie sitting there) "He mad cause he in a Benz and I'm in a Bentley :troll:" on some DJ Quik/MC Eiht shyt (I really wanna say 106 and Park, with cash money sitting there but I cant find it.)

Wayne was always the "potential" star before then.

He didn't blow up til the USA saw his phenomenal jump from "wobbidy wobbidy" to "Go DJ". To the point where "wobbidy wobbidy" was a minor meme.

but before that, Wayne was being feeatured heavy on releases.

cause "potential"


Wayne wasn’t being featured heavy on releases til 2004-2005 before that dude was mainly featured on Cash Money albums

“Potential” didn’t do anything. His success when he started stating he was the best rapper alive., dropping go dj, his soldier feature verse, his standup feature verse

People are literally rewriting history like OP said

The Carter then his feature run after his what really got people on board with Wayne.
 

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Not really putting dates on it, I'm just saying people knew who would have hits outside of Louisiana off pretty much out the gate. B.G peaked after Chopper city in the ghetto, drop Checkmate and then went to jail like 10 years later, most knew he wasn't gonna make it because he was really really in the streets.


Wayne quickly took B.G's shine once the hot boys formed. Not locally like talking about but it was still a big shift, the more stuff wayne was one the more people wanted to hear from him. B.G had street creds and was authentic, him and Juve was way more popular locally and regionally than wayne initially but that was changing pretty quickly.

Like I was saying wayne was taking spots on singles and being added to songs as you pointed out.

B.G. is the reason CMR got their deal. B.G. had mire features when the Hot Boys took off in 1998.

Juvenile had the biggest album out of the Hot Boys for nearly 20 years.
 

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Decent. Bro was decent, but he had some swag to him and he had lil quips here and there

He "had a career" since 95. Bro wasn't that nice

Nah. nikkas actually thought Turk was the best and wanted his album to come out SOOO BADD lol. And when his shyt finally dropped so did any of his buzz

Nah, not really. Those were like "Sqad Tapes" tier.

Nah. Wayne had already set shyt on fire w/ C1, and C2 w/ the subsequent features had him on top by 07. Lida was on the decline ever since after Red Light District, it was the same song and dance. He cut his shyt losing all his powers and gave us Release Therapy in 06.

No it don't breh. Keep it a bean. The Squad tapes only showed us his growth as it was happening. He didn't even have the "east coast rapping" label yet. I personally feel he held back a little cuz he knew he was gonna have us going crazy w/C1.

....and another thing...we don't talk down on Manny Fresh round these parts.. especially his production
Sqad 4 is better than all the droughts and dedications combined. Wayne made a great decision ditching Mannie fresh and them hokey pokey ass hooks.
 

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That's BS. They knew Wayne was a star too and were pushing him as hard as Juve and B.G

On CMR's first Universal release How U Luv That Wayne is all over that album. He's on 10/11 songs which is more than half the album

Juvenile said he knew he had to get Wayne on Back That Azz Up in some fashion

Wayne doesn't have a verse on the album version of Bling Bling but he's the reason for the hook. There's no Bling Bling without him


nikka I don't care what "they" say I was around I saw them perform in their PRIME my boy. This is where revision comes in. People who old enough and was around know what the real deal was. The stars was Juvy and BG. Wayne was popular cause of his little catchy shyt they would let him say on the singles but that was only the radio cuts of the songs. nikkas need to cut the bullshyt out for once.
 

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Seeing star quality in someone doesn't mean they are a star. Wayne was not a star until the mid '00's. That's a fact. A Wayne album wasn't an event.

Jay Z had star quality, but he wasn't actually a star until the late 90's though he was out here since the late 80's.
I know he wasn't a star until later on. I'm talking about people acting like he was irrelevant or on the bench while Juve and BG were doing all the work at Cash Money
 

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The Carter got him a lot of fans, myself included

I remember a lot of hype off the Sqad tapes but 500 Degreez wasn't very good - Carter felt like it delivered on that potential
Yeah I remember being Crazy hype for 500 degrees. I remember getting to the mall playing the lil sampler at Sam goody's and being completely disappointed in every track. :russ:


I legit just act like that album never happen still :mjlol:


Ended up pocketing the money and just going to the Arcade and babbages at the time.
 

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Wayne wasn’t being featured heavy on releases til 2004-2005 before that dude was mainly featured on Cash Money albums

“Potential” didn’t do anything. His success when he started stating he was the best rapper alive., dropping go dj, his soldier feature verse, his standup feature verse

:stopitslime: know what...

:heh: you right.

edit: it's this type of wrinkling that irons out the truth, tho.
 

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I know he wasn't a star until later on. I'm talking about people acting like he was irrelevant or on the bench while Juve and BG were doing all the work at Cash Money

He wasn't on the bench, but he wasn't exactly in the forefront like that either.
 

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That's BS. They knew Wayne was a star too and were pushing him as hard as Juve and B.G

On CMR's first Universal release How U Luv That Wayne is all over that album. He's on 10/11 songs which is more than half the album

Juvenile said he knew he had to get Wayne on Back That Azz Up in some fashion

Wayne doesn't have a verse on the album version of Bling Bling but he's the reason for the hook. There's no Bling Bling without him


This man knows his history and his shyt. Nothing but facts. Wayne was the verse everyone was waiting for back then. He'd get on a verse on Juvy or B.G. shyt and would murder that shyt. Hide Out Or Ride Out and Cutlass, Monte Carlos, and Regals are two of my favorite Wayne verses. People really don't understand how many verses of his turned into choruses for other CMR tracks.



Wayne floated on this shyt :banderas:
 

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That nikka jay z boring

And I take more from
NY style hip hop. Jay boring as fukk. And I say fukk with the hardest emphasis bishop would’ve….

As sad as it was I’m a victim to circumstances and being young but he also was corny asf to me. That’s one rap nikka I just couldn’t believe in no way shape or form.
 
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