Living wage advocates, how are restaruant owners supposed to deal with being squeezed like this?

[88m3]

Too bad.

Living in the US gives you a better outlook than any country south of it, UNLESS you chose to invest in yourself educationally.

You can't keep trying to make better choices for everyone beyond the mere basics of secure borders, healthcare, and some standard in the mass consumption of food and social services and infrastructure.

You're really going to compare us to South America?

 

[ill]

I can see where you're coming from but I hope you see how toxic and submissive an outlook this is.

I do but I realize this is the real world and thats how things actually work. I don't believe in hope and change. I believe in actions and habits that build momentum for success. Most people in this country earning MW or near there don't know what it takes or don't have what it takes to be successful. Thats life and I realize that so I make the most of my opportunities. If I worked at McDonalds and NEEDED the money to survive since I was on MW, I wouldn't walk out on my job. Its little things like this that separate those who made it from those who have not. Its those little things that people ignore and then wonder why everyone is out to get them. Ignorance is bliss but when it come to your survival, you shouldn't be ignorant to the real world. Just my opinion. It seems to be working out for me in real life so far.

 

[Tate]

Too bad.

Living in the US gives you a better outlook than any country south of it, UNLESS you chose to invest in yourself educationally.

You can't keep trying to make better choices for everyone beyond the mere basics of secure borders, healthcare, and some standard in the mass consumption of food and social services and infrastructure.

Weren't you already sonned out this thread?

I do but I realize this is the real world and thats how things actually work. I don't believe in hope and change. I believe in actions and habits that build momentum for success. Most people in this country earning MW or near there don't know what it takes or don't have what it takes to be successful. Thats life and I realize that so I make the most of my opportunities. If I worked at McDonalds and NEEDED the money to survive since I was on MW, I wouldn't walk out on my job. Its little things like this that separate those who made it from those who have not. Its those little things that people ignore and then wonder why everyone is out to get them. Ignorance is bliss but when it come to your survival, you shouldn't be ignorant to the real world. Just my opinion. It seems to be working out for me in real life so far.

To each his own. McDonalds shouldn't be the ceiling for employment in America, but for too many people who work hard it is. I don't think its necessarily wise to require a $15 minimum wage, but far be it for me to stand against a poor man's movement.

 

[tmonster]

the assembly line was created to eliminate skilled workers and weaken workers rights

I do but I realize this is the real world

no, this is the world you are creating, the real world used to be children had to work, women could not work, blacks could not work this job or that one, the 40hr work week was preposterous and so on and so on

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Once again your argument is about social engineering fall on deac ears. Go quote someone else. Youre talking about the minimum wage being comfortable for people as being my end point. Youre alluding to people having a tough time at the minimum wage as some kind of desirable outcome.

Yeah.

Thats what I'm saying

You can't scrape by with the bare minimum then be mad that life isn't exactly comfortable.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

To each his own. McDonalds shouldn't be the ceiling for employment in America, but for too many people who work hard it is. I don't think its necessarily wise to require a $15 minimum wage, but far be it for me to stand against a poor man's movement.

You've been fooled by loud cities like LA and Seattle and Chicago, not small towns and metropolitan areas that can't support this.

You're talking about shytting on entire states with $15 MW.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You're really going to compare us to South America?

I didn't want to, but apparently if your only argument is: "increase job training and access to education"...when the USA is THE standard bearer of higher educational opportunity in the world, then I don't know how much more seriously to take your argument.

There ARE options out there. Your answer can't just be "GIVE US MORE" without any assessment of how the current options are being used.

 

[ill]

Weren't you already sonned out this thread?



To each his own. McDonalds shouldn't be the ceiling for employment in America, but for too many people who work hard it is. I don't think its necessarily wise to require a $15 minimum wage, but far be it for me to stand against a poor man's movement.

Thats the thing though. The people are basically perpetrating a system that encourages McDonalds to be the ceiling. I'm not against raising the MW btw. I just don't believe $15 is feasible. I also don't believe that we should be putting all this effort into raising the floor when we should be focusing our efforts on increasing opportunities for the middle class who have the largest effect on employment.

the assembly line was created to eliminate skilled workers and weaken workers rights

no, this is the world you are creating, the real world used to be children had to work, women could not work, blacks could not work this job or that one, the 40hr work week was preposterous and so on and so on

No, this is the real world. Go outside and take a look. Children can't work because the MW jobs that were meant for them are now taken by unskilled adults that never amounted to shyt in their lives. I'm sure theres one or two people that went through legitimate hardships that forced them to work at McDonalds but the vast majority of their workers have no other opportunities due to their lack of skills or education.

 

[Tate]

You've been fooled by loud cities like LA and Seattle and Chicago, not small towns and metropolitan areas that can't support this.

You're talking about shytting on entire states with $15 MW.

No, I'm talking about you staying out my alerts and speaking when spoken to

Thats the thing though. The people are basically perpetrating a system that encourages McDonalds to be the ceiling. I'm not against raising the MW btw. I just don't believe $15 is feasible. I also don't believe that we should be putting all this effort into raising the floor when we should be focusing our efforts on increasing opportunities for the middle class who have the largest effect on employment.

I'd agree. but we reach a point where automation and digitalization are rendering many middle class jobs obsolete, and replacing them with service level jobs. Capitalism being self defeating and such, but that's just my opinion.

 

[Broke Wave]

Thats the thing though. The people are basically perpetrating a system that encourages McDonalds to be the ceiling. I'm not against raising the MW btw. I just don't believe $15 is feasible. I also don't believe that we should be putting all this effort into raising the floor when we should be focusing our efforts on increasing opportunities for the middle class who have the largest effect on employment.




No, this is the real world. Go outside and take a look. Children can't work because the MW jobs that were meant for them are now taken by unskilled adults that never amounted to shyt in their lives. I'm sure theres one or two people that went through legitimate hardships that forced them to work at McDonalds but the vast majority of their workers have no other opportunities due to their lack of skills or education.

So this isnt really about economics anymore, its about social engineering right? Incentives, making harder working citizens and punishing the lazy ones?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

No, I'm talking about you staying out my alerts and speaking when spoken to

who the fukk are you?

I'd agree. but we reach a point where automation and digitalization are rendering many middle class jobs obsolete, and replacing them with service level jobs. Capitalism being self defeating and such, but that's just my opinion.

What are you doing to increase the 98% of jobs that aren't minimum wage?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

So this isnt really about economics anymore, its about social engineering right? Incentives, making harder working citizens and punishing the lazy ones?

When wasn't it about this?

The economy creates incentives for innovation. And rewards those who truly change the game.

 

[Broke Wave]

When wasn't it about this?

The economy creates incentives for innovation. And rewards those who truly change the game.

Youve quoted me like 7 times bruh. Im not interested im having a discussion with you.

 

[NZA]

they used to openly talk about turning america into a service economy. now they complain that more adults are working in service.

 

[tmonster]

No, this is the real world. Go outside and take a look. Children can't work because the MW jobs that were meant for them are now taken by unskilled adults that never amounted to shyt in their lives. I'm sure theres one or two people that went through legitimate hardships that forced them to work at McDonalds but the vast majority of their workers have no other opportunities due to their lack of skills or education.

again no, this is the world you are creating