Beastie Boys.. lol. All your doing is exposing your self white boy..
I'm not white. You know you already lost an argument when you resort to a completely baseless swipe like that from the start.
The Beastie Boys were well-respected amongst the core hip-hop audience in the License to Ill days. If you had any sort of foundation and familiarity with the culture you would know that.
That being said, regardless of whether or not that is true, my point was The Beastie Boys and Run DMC had already sold out stadiums and had big crossover hits, refuting your bullshyt about Hammer somehow laying a blueprint by doing so. It wasn't even meant to prop the Beastie Boys. It was simply an objective statement of fact.
Figured you would also be a kanye stan. That's the real reason your butt hurt.
I'm not a Kanye stan. I'm simply illustrating how cartoonishly stupid your claims that Hammer was this groundbreaking legend that laid a hip-hop blueprint is and using certain artists as evidence for that.
I think you know your own position is indefensible, that's why you're resorting to insipid assumptions and deflections such as I'm white, a Kanye stan, butthurt, etc.
Cause Lionel Richie dissed Kanye for the doing the same thing yall in here claiming common and john legend did when kanye performed "all day" for a room full of cacs at those european awards. Nobody in real life downplays the commodores and lionel richie's accomplishments in black music.
I didn't say anything about Lionel Richie. I don't knock Common and John Legend for what they did at all. I only spoke on your claims about Hammer. Try to keep separate arguments in your head at once, please.
You use Kanye as an example when he just put out a bullshyt wack pop single with paul mcartney and rhianna. Same Kanye who needed 20 ghostwriters to put out a cliche garbage ass song "all day" that lil boosie could have made in 5 minutes. Same one who encourages white folks to say n!gga at his concerts. His fan base is mostly hipster cacs these days. Thats a fact. Same with Kendrick.
What the fukk does that have to do with anything I said? I think Kanye is a clown and I do not like him. He's one of my least favorite people in hip-hop. I do acknowledge his artistic prowess though because it's undeniable. My personal feelings about him as a man aside, he's a great talent who has made great definitive music, and whose influence is felt qualitatively in the genre. Hammer is not. People will still play Late Registration and My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy all the way through 30 years from. Nobody will play Let's Get It Started or Please Hammer, Don't Hurt Em. This isn't a very difficult concept to understand.
Black folks never really rocked with kendricks music like that. He has always been majority hipster cac fanbase from the day interscope put the battery in his back. That's who he makes music for. If you were really around black people you would know nobody really playing his shyt like that.
Black folks don't listen to Kendrick.-dumb shyt you read on the coli.
Don't know if you got the memo, but everybody's majority fanbase is white.
hip hop was never about lyrics. Lyrics were just an element of it. That's what white boys like you dont get. Yes Hammer is legend and one of the greatest performers of all time. I never said he was lyrical. Master P is a legend too. Uncle luke and too live crew are legends too. Their impact culturally cant be denied and if you actually grew up in the culture you would know this..None of them are known for lyrics but hip hop has always been party and dance music first and foremost. drug dealin Jay z was dancing in videos when he first came out too. Your prob the type that thinks eminem is a top ten rapper cause he does multi-syllable raps.
Bruh, you can't tell me shyt about hip-hop. I was a died in the wool hip-hop head since before you born. Miss me with that bullshyt because you're a fukking roach's shyt pellet to me when it comes to hip-hop and there is nothing, not one single iota of anything you could possibly tell me about the music or the culture that I don't already know, or haven't heard before. Everything you're saying is half ass revisionist history and recycled shallow talking points said by people who are completely foreign to essence of what hip-hop in its formative years, and try to justify their outsider's perspective, ready acceptance of garbage and indifference to the decline of its integrity and essence.
You're regurgitating this same bullshyt about "Buh...buh...but hip-hop used to be party music!" as if anybody with a fukking clue doesn't already know that, and as if it's impossible to make party music that is still not artistically compromised and of quality. If you can't tell the difference between The Show (you probably don't even know what that is and have to google it) and Turn This Mother Out, there's no reason for you to even speak on hip-hop.
There's always been party music. There's always been crossover moves that raise eyebrows and irk the purists (see: Walk This Way). When you're indebted to a record label that expects you to sale, there will always be a balancing act of artistic integrity and mass appeal. Every great artist from Run DMC, to Biggie, to Kanye has to do it. That is not a justification for calling Hammer who unlike the people I just named was disposable pop garbage, had no artistic integrity and no talent outside of his dancing and performing, had no classic records, or no records that anyone would ever play after his fall from fame, had no substance, and no qualitative influence on the music, and who people looked back on and cringed for liking, just like Limp Bizkit, Warrant, or the Backstreet Boys.
Hammer is not a legend, or ahead of his time, nor did he lay any blueprint and that is some of the dumbest shyt I've ever read in my life. Learn the difference between a brief mega-popular fad/novelty act and a musical legend.
are straight black men really sitting around watching these shows with nothing but screaming cac females holding up goofy ass signs they spent all day making?
Can a nikka eat a bowl of cereal without a Coli "he's c00ning!" post... this shyt can seriously not be on y'all minds this much in real life.
