Looking at other people in the gym and thinking "I want that body"

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No ducktales, but I've always had an athletic build and don't even work out that much and get told I look "fit" (by females of course) and many people assume I'm a gym regular....kinda ironic since I just cancelled my membership the other day.
 

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also dont compare yourself to a lot of these people/ celebrities etc because they take steroids to look like that, if youve ever seen anybody with big traps or really thick well defined abs theyre probably on steroids those are two really big give aways, because the body cant naturally create largeness in those muscle groups. try to find somebody sensible that you want to look like, if you pick somebody with big muscles but no body fat (somebody that t akes steroids) you will end up over training

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I hope u realy don't believe what u just typed. There are plenty of people with big traps and well defined abs that don't take steroids. Its called hard work, genetics, proper diet and consistency. The body CAN produce "largeness" in those muscle groups without the use of anabolic steroids. U got it all wrong bruh. You are givin nyggaz the wrong information
 
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Its called hard work, genetics, proper diet and consistency.
maybe genetics but thats rare and not somebody that you should try to compare who you are to

when you look at natural body builders they generally always have very cut but not big bulky abs, and they dont have really big traps. i use them as my example because they dont use steroids like a lot of people do, and they compete to have the biggest muscles they can get naturally. when you compare them to steroid using body builders you can see what im saying too
 

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maybe genetics but thats rare and not somebody that you should try to compare who you are to

when you look at natural body builders they generally always have very cut but not big bulky abs, and they dont have really big traps. i use them as my example because they dont use steroids like a lot of people do, and they compete to have the biggest muscles they can get naturally. when you compare them to steroid using body builders you can see what im saying too

still waiting bro, i see the rep but naw, you need more. I have a degree in Kinesiology, I've studied this shyt thoroughly, I've done clinical trials, I lift daily. I've trained others, competed, helped others competed, worked with people on roids and off roids. What have you done other than taken someone elses word or the word of google?
 

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maybe genetics but thats rare and not somebody that you should try to compare who you are to

when you look at natural body builders they generally always have very cut but not big bulky abs, and they dont have really big traps. i use them as my example because they dont use steroids like a lot of people do, and they compete to have the biggest muscles they can get naturally. when you compare them to steroid using body builders you can see what im saying too

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maybe genetics but thats rare and not somebody that you should try to compare who you are to

when you look at natural body builders they generally always have very cut but not big bulky abs, and they dont have really big traps. i use them as my example because they dont use steroids like a lot of people do, and they compete to have the biggest muscles they can get naturally. when you compare them to steroid using body builders you can see what im saying too


Yeah I get what ur sayin now, but just in general, there are plenty of naturally built people walkin around the gym and a lot don't use steroids
 

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most folks who say they cant achieve a certain bodytype or have already classifed themselves...have never pushed their body to its genetic limit in the first place :ehh:

lifting for peak aesthetics is a job in itself

but getting just a decent build with 10-12% bodyfat is feasible for about anyone

some of yall like talkin gym but dont ever come in :why:
 

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I used to be :noah: around 19, 20, in the gym 4-5 days a week

Now not so much :flabbynsick: I've been pushing my restart date back everyday for the last 2 months :flabbynsick:

I mean it this time, Imma start back tomorrow :skip:
 
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then i guess i shouldnt doubt you but many times when you see somebody that is very bulky but has very low bf % then there is a strong chance that they probably take steroids

there is a physician and psychiatry professor named harrison pope who created this thing called a fat free mass index that you can use to know if somebody is taking steroids by knowing their bodyfat, height, and weight. he wrote a book too called the adonis complex about the way that society forces men think that they have to try to create a persona and image of hyper masculinity all of the time...

Fat-free mass index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

actually you would be really surprised how normal steroids really are at gyms and even in school sports which is really sad

heres a link where he answers question about steroids

Steroid Questions & Answers | Harrison G. Pope, JR, MD, Harvard Medical School

Q. What are steroids?

A. Steroids are hormones that include testosterone and more than 100 synthetically developed testosterone relatives. They posses muscle building and masculinizing properties. They are widely used in a harmful way, especially by boys and young men seeking to gain increased muscle mass and strength either for athletic purposes or to improve personal appearance. Steroids were first reportedly used in the 1940's by Adolf Hitler's troops in World War 2 to increase aggressiveness, although this claim has never been verified.

Q. What aspects of steroid use are least understood?

A. Most of the general public and even most physicians are surprisingly unfamiliar with the effects of steroids and the extent of their use. In particular, most people are unaware that, without massive doses, it is virtually impossible to achieve the combination of low body fat and high muscularity exhibited by many body builders and professional athletes. Because athletes and their promoters have large personal and financial motivations to deny such drug use, the public has been hoodwinked for decades about the magnitude of the steroid problem.

Q. How common is steroid use?

A. Surveys of U.S. High School students over the past 15 years suggest that approx. 3-11% of boys have used anabolic-androgenic steroids.


Q. Describe what steroids can do to the mind of the user?

A. During a cycle of steroid use, a typical user will experience hypomanic symptoms like euphoria, prominent irritability, increased libido, decreased need for sleep and a feeling of invincibility. Aggressive outbursts worsen with increasing steroid doses; one user described his girlfriend as "she's scared of me when I'm on the juice."

Q. Describe what it's like to stop using steroids?

A. During the withdrawal phase after stopping each cycle, one will feel prominent depression, loss of libido, hypersomnia, and suicidal ideation. "I almost jumped off a bridge after my fourth cycle" admitted one user. "I couldn't wait to get on my next cycle to feel good again." Depression is often characterized by body image obsessions. These guys will spend at least 1 hour a day examining themselves in a mirror and sometimes refuse to go out in public because they feel that they are 'getting too small'.

Q. Is there a comparison between male steroid users and female's who are anorexic?

A. Oddly enough there is, neither group voluntarily seeks help to stop their drug use. We are unaware of any rehabilitation centers, clinics, 12 step programs, or the like for steroid users-there is no demand for them. Usually a steroid user will feel worse about their body image during their steroid cycles then they felt before taking them. This is another way that steroid users are tied with those who are anorexic...

Q. Can you hide your steroid use to friends and family?

A. The signs of use are so obvious that they can't be covered up. As a doctor, I can actually calculate the maximum amount of muscularity a person can achieve without the use of drugs; it is called the fat-free mass index. If you score >26 on this calculation of muscle size than we know you are using drugs. That calculation is not the only indicator of use, a gain of >8 pounds in a month along with acne, gynecomastia, and testicular atrophy are other obvious signs of use.

Q. What are the long term consequences of steroid use?

A. A recent 12 year follow up of 62 power lifters in Finland who used steroids showed that 13% had died, a rate 4.6 higher than in a matched population. They showed increased cholesterol, increased blood pressure and coronary artery disease. They found higher than expected numbers of tumor in the livers, blood-filled cysts that could rupture and cause death, and a case of prostate cancer.

Q. Who is a typical steroid user?

A. The general traits of someone who will use steroids are those with antisocial traits, a greater use of other illicit drugs before taking steroids, and users generally had poorer relationships with their fathers than did non-users.
 
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