Roland Coltrane
Superstar
his video's were pretty popular on fbYou got the whole vid of this ?
just a dude going crazy to stuff he used to listen to back in the day like Ante Up
Lupe Fiasco vs Elzhi
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just a dude going crazy to stuff he used to listen to back in the day like Ante Up
call_me_step_daddy
Real nikkaz,beat bytches
fam....
Dude has worked with Dilla, was a member of Slum Village, and currently has a project with Khrysis out on 9th Wonder's label (very good btw)
He's got a number of joints with Royce, Eminem has heard of him and all the elite spitters like Pharaohe Monch and Phonte respect him
It's really not my fault you don't know shyt about hip hop and cartwheeled into this thread saying the dumb shyt you do.
Honesty you post like a girl tho breh
you post like a fat,nerdy, no p*ssy gettin teen breh
"you post like a girl hee hee" lame ass
anyway, its unfair to ya boy elzhi to be compared to someone with way more recognition, as you can see by the poll
you gotta keep him in his lane & compare him to other lesser known ,average rappers
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YourMumsRoom
Black Excellence
F%&k wit them both.
Favourites AND most consistent 2x lyricists since the BIG/Jay/Nas era.
Favourites AND most consistent 2x lyricists since the BIG/Jay/Nas era.
Roland Coltrane
Superstar
all you hating nikkas go look at that Conway Everybody is FOOD thread 
www.thecoli.com/threads/conway-the-machine-everybody-is-f-o-o-d-discussion-thread.655509/
www.thecoli.com/threads/conway-the-machine-everybody-is-f-o-o-d-discussion-thread.655509/
They’re both monsters at their peak.
If you’re look at the vantage point of their whole careers, Elzhi is the more consistent artist, as Lupe’s artistic vision had been compromised due his beef with his label for many years. Elzhi’s sound has stayed pure and underground.
Lupe is the more versatile artist, he can sound comfy on any kind of beat, any subject, any style, any flow you pick and choose. This allows Lupe to have a higher ceiling in my opinion.
Conceptually and content it’s probably a wash, depending on how you look at it. Lyrically, it also depends how you look at it cuz stylistically they’re very different.
If you’re more of a traditionalist, Elzhi’s probably your pick
If you’re look at the vantage point of their whole careers, Elzhi is the more consistent artist, as Lupe’s artistic vision had been compromised due his beef with his label for many years. Elzhi’s sound has stayed pure and underground.
Lupe is the more versatile artist, he can sound comfy on any kind of beat, any subject, any style, any flow you pick and choose. This allows Lupe to have a higher ceiling in my opinion.
Conceptually and content it’s probably a wash, depending on how you look at it. Lyrically, it also depends how you look at it cuz stylistically they’re very different.
If you’re more of a traditionalist, Elzhi’s probably your pick
ronnie46
i speak facts not emotions
either pick is not a bad pick but i feel what seperates lupe from say a elzhi is his metaphors and wordplay imo
decoding his lyrics is super it's still shyt from food and liquor that people still have not caught onto let alone the cool etc.
@bolded is the fukkin truth
Both are on different spectrums Elzhi follows the path of a traditional rapper/MC. Hes I guess you can say "pure" in the same way people call Chris Paul a Traditional/pure point guard.
Lupe is more "different"/unorthodox, hes does things differently in his own. So hes like Stephen Curry in this instance making his presence felt in a different way(while still having some traditional elements in there as well)
anyways my pick is Lupe
Yes, though Elzhi is no slouch in that department either
Precisely
And just like Curry vs CP3, Curry has a higher ceiling
I’d go with Lupe at his best as well
Roland Coltrane
Superstar
I'm more of a traditionalist then, but I don't agree that being more versatile makes Lupe's ceiling higher
New Orleans and LAC CP3 in his prime is better than Steph Curry pre 2015, but nobody could have predicted that Steph would have gone super saiyan the way he did, particularly the season after their first chip. Lupe analogously hasn't made that giant leap to like Steph did where he's definitively better, which is where I think your comparison breaks down.
Lupe's got some weak production and he's got enough duds in his catalog that cats have already admitted somehow that multiple albums of his miraculously "don't count"
Elzhi doesn't have any duds, certain projects are better than others, but when Lupe misses he REALLY misses
You point out the fact that Lupe's artistic vision was compromised by his label but at the same time he entered as a mainstream artist and that label push along with the Jay Z cosign are exactly why I'm guessing a high percentage of folks are going with Lupe, just because they know his material more.
Roland Coltrane
Superstar
It's more than just lyrics, it's about about artistry, concepts, storytelling etcwho else spits like Elzhi
ronnie46
i speak facts not emotions
elzhi can be complex in the imagery department these videos are perfect for this thread.
give me a minute i want your input and tell me what u think.
ronnie46
i speak facts not emotions
ronnie46
i speak facts not emotions
@NoHalfWay what u think
Yeah Lupe has clunkers in his discog just like Curry had clunkers pre 2014 (and after as well)I'm more of a traditionalist then, but I don't agree that being more versatile makes Lupe's ceiling higher
New Orleans and LAC CP3 in his prime is better than Steph Curry pre 2015, but nobody could have predicted that Steph would have gone super saiyan the way he did, particularly the season after their first chip. Lupe analogously hasn't made that giant leap to like Steph did where he's definitively better, which is where I think your comparison breaks down.
Lupe's got some weak production and he's got enough duds in his catalog that cats have already admitted somehow that multiple albums of his miraculously "don't count"
Elzhi doesn't have any duds, certain projects are better than others, but when Lupe misses he REALLY misses
You point out the fact that Lupe's artistic vision was compromised by his label but at the same time he entered as a mainstream artist and that label push along with the Jay Z cosign are exactly why I'm guessing a high percentage of folks are going with Lupe, just because they know his material more.
Where Lupe sets himself apart is, at his best, his sound is more distinguished (or innovative) than Elzhi’s. Not to diss Elzhi by making this comparison, but Elzhi’s sound is comparable to J Cole if J Cole was an actual elite lyricist. They’re a very safe pick for someone with traditional taste cuz you know what you’re gonna get.
Yes, Lupe has albums with weak production and such. But on his best projects? Sonically Lupe’s best albums vs Elzhi’s best, Lupe’s music is more ambitious. From the flows, to the cadences, production quality and variety. Like this new album Drogas Wave? Sheesh
Like don’t get me wrong, the production on Jericho Jackson is dope and it fits Elzhi. But it’s basically the same kinda style he been rockin with since Slum Village
I think you give Hov s lil too much credit for the fondness of Lupe. After that first album there wasn’t much Hov involvement breh, he didn’t executive produce The Cool.
And Lupe on The Cool is arguably just as complete as an artist as Elzhi at his peak