Main difference between Aaliyah and Beyonce

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

a bigger overall string of hits?

Brandy didn't have a string of hits on this calibre until she dropped her second album which was led by a duet with Monica. No one can deny the impact of "The Boy Is Mine" when it dropped, and both Brandy and Monica both benefited huge from it. But between them, But you can't compare any "Brandy" singles with Aaliyah's rendition of "At Your Best." It's funny, I did a google search looking for opening week sales and found this quote on Brandy's self-titled debut


More than anyone else mentioned in the thread, she had lasting material. The fact that nikkas will go 20 years and still WANT to listen to shyt Aaliyah released in her first two albums is something you probably can't say about Brandy or Monica (but you definitely can't say about Beyonce)

the 1st paragraph is the bullchit you said. we're gonna act like "wanna be down" & "brokenhearted" werent HUGE? we're gonna act like "sittin up in my room" & "baby" werent smashes? "best friend" was the smallest hit out of that run, and it was bigger than most of aalyiah's chit.

most of monica's joints were bigger than aalyiah's stuff as well. the f**k was you at?

i quoted the bolded for sheer enjoyment.

both of these chicks are wildly overrated.

Beyonce makes music for teenagers. Its all generally awful stuff that wont stand the test of time. But she has a great voice.


Aaliyah made better music and had better song writers. Her stuff could be bubblegum but it could also be more mature. Her vocal range was limited as fukk, but she knew that and did not do more.

Kind of a wash to me.

its counter-productive to say that beyonce makes music for teenagers, when most of her stuff is still more mature than aalyiah's chit.

So... let's also pretend none of those sales and praise have anything to do with her being deceased.

Not saying ALL OF IT is a result of that, but I'm willing to be that both of her first two albums have sold at least an extra million in the wake of her death.

I don't know how this go-hard discrediting of Monica's stardom happened, but there's a reason 'The Boy Is Mine' was a huge deal. Aside from the song itself, a major part of that song's draw was that it was Brandy and Monica on the same song. Let's not act like Monica was some R&B girl that was only hot on urban radio or some shyt- she had just as many top 10 Hot 100 hits just like Brandy and Aaliyah did... look it up.

I mean, no dis to Aaliyah, seriously. She made great music... but some of y'all in this thread like any young female R&B singer owes her career and had to bow at the feet of the immortal Aaliyah, and I don't recall it being like that at all. She was definitely at the top, but it's not like her existence was stopping everybody else in their tracks.

took the words right out of my mouth.

i didnt feel like arguing about sales with these dudes so i just let them have it. i wasnt trying to look up specificly dated numbers to prove a moot point. but when i used to hit the racks @ the book store, i seriously dont remember aalyiah putting up brandy or monica numbers in billboard magazine. i do remember her old albums re-appearing on billboard for the 1st time in years right after she passed.

 

[dagodmcizme]

both of these chicks are wildly overrated.

Beyonce makes music for teenagers. Its all generally awful stuff that wont stand the test of time. But she has a great voice.


Aaliyah made better music and had better song writers. Her stuff could be bubblegum but it could also be more mature. Her vocal range was limited as fukk, but she knew that and did not do more.

Kind of a wash to me.

Beyonce overrated

 

[JMurder]

i told you to sit down cuz yous a flea type nicca, and i told you yesterday that i was done talking to ya @$$. i dont like "debating" with people like you.

people who debate fictional opinions with facts? Yes I can see how that would be difficult to keep up with

Can u explain what u trying to say about Alicia?

Maybe I'm being harsh on Alicia. I loved her since the first time I heard Fallin, and that was an honest display of singing ability. But I still feel that was when she was weakest as a singer...she improved her vocal range. So yeah, I'll probably take that back...Alicia could definitely sing. I'm kind of critiquing her poorly because her range was strictly on deep notes.

both of these chicks are wildly overrated.

Beyonce makes music for teenagers. Its all generally awful stuff that wont stand the test of time. But she has a great voice.


Aaliyah made better music and had better song writers. Her stuff could be bubblegum but it could also be more mature. Her vocal range was limited as fukk, but she knew that and did not do more.

Kind of a wash to me.

Aaliyah- Vocal Profile/ Range | Diva Devotee : A Blog About Music's Divas

But we can't speak of Aaliyah without mentioning her unique 4 octave voice, that till this day hasn't had any competitors in terms of its smooth tone or it's versitility. Her voice could be subdued and cool (One in a million), suductive and enticing (It's whatever) or, what she did best, laced with attitude and confidence (You got nerve, If your girl only knew). It was Aaliyah's vocal abilities that carried Timbalands computerised beats to the level of genius by giving them warmth and soul; a feat he has yet to repeat with any other singer he has produced for.
http://www.divadevotee.com/2011/01/happy-birthday-aaliyah.html

Don't be disrespectful

 

[JMurder]

the 1st paragraph is the bullchit you said. we're gonna act like "wanna be down" & "brokenhearted" werent HUGE? we're gonna act like "sittin up in my room" & "baby" werent smashes? "best friend" was the smallest hit out of that run, and it was bigger than most of aalyiah's chit.

most of monica's joints were bigger than aalyiah's stuff as well. the f**k was you at?

i quoted the bolded for sheer enjoyment.


its counter-productive to say that beyonce makes music for teenagers, when most of her stuff is still more mature than aalyiah's chit.




took the words right out of my mouth.

i didnt feel like arguing about sales with these dudes so i just let them have it. i wasnt trying to look up specificly dated numbers to prove a moot point. but when i used to hit the racks @ the book store, i seriously dont remember aalyiah putting up brandy or monica numbers in billboard magazine. i do remember her old albums re-appearing on billboard for the 1st time in years right after she passed.

Wanna Be Down was about as huge as Back & Forth. They dropped the same year breh and they were 5 & 6 on the top 100 charts. Baby was #4. At your best was 6. You can't make the argument that Brandy's were smashes and Aaliyah's weren't.

You could make the argument for Sitting Up In My Room sure. It really depends on what you use to determine a smash hit. But no way you can call Wanna Be Down a smash hit and in the same breath downplay Aaliyah's singles.

And I remember hearing Monica's tracks but none of'em really stood out back then. I don't remember people being about the songs themselves. They were like that about her singing but I don't think people were really pining for Monica like that...and it showed in her sales clearly. She couldn't even bank off of The Boy Is Mine even though that's what she named her album. She should've eaten much better off of that single.

Anyway, I'm not making the argument that they weren't on Aaliyah's level so this is moot for me. I'm just saying that they were all on a comparable level and had their own lanes.

And I never said that Beyonce made songs for teenagers. I said most of her songs are fluff that don't last at all. Or in other words, her works are for the most part dated...whereas tracks like One In A Million stand the test of time.

 

[mastermind]

Beyonce overrated

she is a terrible artist yet you have brehs putting her up there with legends.

Maybe I'm being harsh on Alicia. I loved her since the first time I heard Fallin, and that was an honest display of singing ability. But I still feel that was when she was weakest as a singer...she improved her vocal range. So yeah, I'll probably take that back...Alicia could definitely sing. I'm kind of critiquing her poorly because her range was strictly on deep notes.

she does poorly on her notes, but a bigger issue is that her music lacks any real depth.

Aaliyah- Vocal Profile/ Range | Diva Devotee : A Blog About Music's Divas

she doesnt sound that good when things got high, and this is a studio version, I would have hated to hear her live.

 

[JMurder]

she is a terrible artist yet you have brehs putting her up there with legends.


she does poorly on her notes, but a bigger issue is that her music lacks any real depth.


she doesnt sound that good when things got high, and this is a studio version, I would have hated to hear her live.

 

[mastermind]

Aaliyah the one i gave my heart to live - YouTube

she knew her limits and didnt try to do too much. I have no beef with her, but she is overrated.

 

[baller2500]

both of these chicks are wildly overrated.

Beyonce makes music for teenagers. Its all generally awful stuff that wont stand the test of time. But she has a great voice.


Aaliyah made better music and had better song writers. Her stuff could be bubblegum but it could also be more mature. Her vocal range was limited as fukk, but she knew that and did not do more.

Kind of a wash to me.

Actually Aaliyah had pretty good range. It was power and strength her voice was lacking.

man, do you realize that youre just proving my point with half these videos? rihanna? cassie?

and most of these other joints were years after aalyiah died. latoya luckett interviews didnt exist til bout '06. i know. i was stalking her. jojo & tiffany evans werent even cognizant when aalyiah/brandy/monica were in the same lane. and i'll bet that jojo wasnt even listening to aalyiah when she was alive. and you got youtube clips up there?

that beyonce chit was just her saying that aalyiah was hot, yet, you translate that as praise as if shes doing cartwheels interviewing aretha franklin or something.

What difference does it make if it was Cassie and Rihanna? We are talking about influencing artists. (Which you havent posted of Monica). Aaliyah still influenced a caliber of artists, Beyonce, Jojo, And Tiffany Evans are great singers and they admit to being influenced by Aaliyah. She even influenced rappers such as Drake and Jcole. You can make excuses all you want, but the proof is in the videos. I'm still waiting for proof that Monica is "more influential and made a bigger impact than Aaliyah". Monica was just a regular singer. You can find any girl at your local church choir that sounds just like her. Yeah she can sing, but that's all you can say about Monica.

 

[baller2500]

she knew her limits and didnt try to do too much. I have no beef with her, but she is overrated.

There is nothing wrong with that performance, at all. She sounded good.

 

[JMurder]

she knew her limits and didnt try to do too much. I have no beef with her, but she is overrated.

You didn't even click play did you

 

[JMurder]

Actually Aaliyah had pretty good range. It was power and strength her voice was lacking.

someone who knows what they're talking about

 

[DANJ!]

Some of those praise videos I posted were before her death.. if you actually watched them

And I never said Aaliyah was shytting on the entire world lol, All I said was that Aaliyah and Monica would alternate for that #2 spot while Brandy had that #1 spot.

I coulda swore I said the same thing like two days ago So we're just debating the same point. Oh!

 

[JMurder]

I coulda swore I said the same thing like two days ago So we're just debating the same point. Oh!

most of the arguments in here are over stupid lines that ppl just throw in to make an argument. Like someone calling Beyonce the Elton John of our time, or Aaliyah being the biggest superstar. Many of the things that you were trying to argue were things that were already general consensus. Most nikkas in here have sense and know Aaliyah wasn't legend when she was out. A lot of the argument comes in where exactly she was on that pedestal.

 

[Taadow]

most of the arguments in here are over stupid lines that ppl just throw in to make an argument. Like someone calling Beyonce the Elton John of our time, or Aaliyah being the biggest superstar. Many of the things that you were trying to argue were things that were already general consensus. Most nikkas in here have sense and know Aaliyah wasn't legend when she was out. A lot of the argument comes in where exactly she was on that pedestal.

Did y'all really classify Aaliyah with them other young'uns, though?

Aaliyah came out like a grown-ass woman, she was coming for the same demo as TLC, SWV and them broads. When "Back & Forth" came out, we had no idea she was 14. She wouldn't have been on a cut like "The Boy Is Mine", because she came off like the kind of broad that wouldn't fight wit' a bytch over a dude. Listen to "If Your Girl Only Knew", for example.

 

[DANJ!]

Did y'all really classify Aaliyah with them other young'uns, though?

Aaliyah came out like a grown-ass woman, she was coming for the same demo as TLC, SWV and them broads. When "Back & Forth" came out, we had no idea she was 14. She wouldn't have been on a cut like "The Boy Is Mine", because she came off like the kind of broad that wouldn't fight wit' a bytch over a dude. Listen to "If Your Girl Only Knew", for example.

OK... so now, Aaliyah wasn't a teen singer with teen fans who made youthful music. Yeah man, "Back & Forth" was real mature.

Come onnnnnn man... this canonization is gettin' strange now. So now, let's renege everything and say not only was Aaliyah unmatched queen of R&B, but she wasn't even classified in the same light as other teenage acts of the time. Come onnnnn man... I'm just sayin'! Are we really gonna throw everybody under the bus like this?