Main difference between Aaliyah and Beyonce

[Taadow]

Brandy was above Aaliyah, but Aaliyah and Monica were on the same level, and you don't have ANY facts to prove otherwise. How Monica was on another level with lower album sales? No awards? No Movie career? No Modeling career? No impact or influence? Lol. She lost.

...furthermore, Brandy SHOULD HAVE been "above" (though I think we could find a better term) those two, because she had a head start - SHE WAS ON A MAJOR NETWORK TV SHOW BEFORE SHE STARTED SINGING!

How did we even start talmbat Brandy and Monica anyway??

 

[nieman]

HOMEBOY RUNNY-RAY!!!!!!!

BACK IN EFFECT JACK!!!!!!

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i co-sign this entire post except the part about monica being a flop. i dont get that.

but yea, great breakdown.



did you get brandy's mom's quote from the same book of that you got the story about monica & brandy having real life beef? CUT THE CHIT.

so having the most explicit music makes you the most mature now? i guess everybody that rocked a bandana was gangsta too right? at the end of the day, r.kelly was the one behind the image & content(which wasnt as explicit as you people make it seem). then you watch her interviews and youre looking at a whole different person. its called a packaged artist. if you were actually around during that time, you would know this and wouldnt be carrying on these silly arguments.

and youre in here mentioning songs like "rock the boat" & "more than a woman" which came out when she was like 22 and they were all out of the teen lane and not even comparable to each other anymore.





are you really this simple? the point is that you responded to my post by droppin links that did nothing but further my point & strengthen my argument.

and i didnt post links simply because i dont need to. for one, youre already helping my prove my points anyway. and its already no secret that monica influenced alot of people. we've even seen singers give her props on national tv. not just young singers, but older singers have gone out of their way to give her props as well(cant say that about aalyiah). and searching for a bunch of obscure links is not my thing. thats kid chit.

the rest of your argument is




no she wasnt. we knew from the start that aalyiah was like 15.

she wasnt on "the boy is mine" because she wasnt in the top 2. there would be no significance in having aalyiah on that record whatsoever.

yall going all out with the revisionisms in here. lol.





while youre number-crunching, youre neglecting to take into consideration, bigger things such as impact.

but im noticing that youre avoiding that because youre not qualified to speak on it, hence the "i didnt know people liked monica like that" quote of yours.

and who could forget the classic "4-page letter is one of the most remembered songs of the '90s" quote you dropped yesterday. keep em comin.



man, do you seriously think that these chicks stopped listening to aalyiah because of the scandal?

all the girls listened to all 3 of these singers as well as a host of others in their lane. its just that they liked some more than others. simple as that. monica & brandy were just a step above aalyiah. deal with it. lol.

I didn't mean flop as in one-hit wonder but in terms of exposure and visible impact. Growing up with them and their music, there always seemed to be a time when there was a "Where's Monica?" period, then she'd hit you with another one. Looking back in retrospect, the numbers and dates say that she was busier than the others music wise, it's just that we didn't see it then. Brandy had her soundtracks and random singles and collabos. Aaliyah was seemingly headed down that oblivion road until Timbaland gave her a second life which propelled her above them for a brief minute.

But also during that time is when the climate changed. Media stopped playing the sultry melodic songs for more uptempo music. That's definitely not Monica's thing...not really Brandy's either but Aaliyah thrived with that crowd.

As for Beyonce vs Aaliyah, Beyonce peers were never allowed to get equal billing/promotion. Aaliyah had to compete with her peers AND TLC, Total, Faith, Toni Braxton, Mary J..that whole mid-90s crowd. Beyonce never has to compete, makes hollow music, and will go down in history as one of the best (but not have any great songs).

 

[JMurder]

Come onnnnnn man... this canonization is gettin' strange now. So now, let's renege everything and say not only was Aaliyah unmatched queen of R&B, but she wasn't even classified in the same light as other teenage acts of the time. Come onnnnn man... I'm just sayin'! Are we really gonna throw everybody under the bus like this?

I'm not sayin' just you, I'm just talking about some of the hilarity in the thread. I think death and nostalgia got folks remembering things differently, that's all.

I'm still waiting for you to address whoever it is you're talking about, cause you're coming at dudes who never said any of those things. Sounds like....no, I'm not gonna accuse you cause maybe there are nikkas in here who said that. Just not understanding who you're talking to.

no, I did. Now listen to her voice, and compare it to Brandy, Monica, or even Beyonce. Those chicks destroy her vocally.


Aaliyah wasnt as weak as Amerie or Alicia Keys, but she isnt dynamic like you are trying your hardest to portray her as.



And my riff isnt even on their voices as much as the music they are making.

First of all, stop changing the argument. The only thing I got at you for saying was that Aaliyah didn't have any vocal range and that you would have hated to hear her live. Not only is her having no vocal range FACTUALLY false, but I posted a live performance from her that displayed amazing range and a good amount of power.

Nobody said she was better than Beyonce is now. I will say she's better than Beyonce was back then because Beyonce's singing ability was manufactured and built into the powerhouse it has become today. This is common knowledge. Beyonce wasn't always able to do the things she's able to do today, but she got there through hard work. Bey gets my respect for working at her craft enough to become one of the best singers in the business. Brandy same thing...her vocal range was weaker and she probably had less power than Aaliyah did. She worked at her craft and got better. So no, Aaliyah wasn't better than the Brandy and Beyonce of today, but neither were they.

And if you still wanna debate the vocal range issue, go do a quick search into youtube. Otherwise, an apology for being wrong will work.

Monica's success is being greatly downplayed:

First Night- #1 on the Hot 100
Angel Of Mine- #1 on the Hot 100
The Boy is Mine- #1 on the Hot 100
For You I Will- #4 on the Hot 100
Why I Love You So Much- #9 on the Hot 100
Before You Walk Out My Life- #7 on the Hot 100
Don't Take It Personal- #2 on the Hot 100
So Gone- #10 on the Hot 100

Miss Thang- 3X Platinum
The Boy Is Mine- 3X Platinum
After The Storm- Gold
Still Standing- Gold

They were all successful, I don't think anybody is denying that. And her singles were always among the top as you showed. But she didn't get the recognition she deserved for her work, even back then. We have to be careful when we get into albums because going platinum is determined by shipped sales. Miss Thang only sold about 1.5 million copies. No slight to Monica, but I always felt that her name was never synonymous with her music when it was promoted.

while youre number-crunching, youre neglecting to take into consideration, bigger things such as impact.

but im noticing that youre avoiding that because youre not qualified to speak on it, hence the "i didnt know people liked monica like that" quote of yours.

and who could forget the classic "4-page letter is one of the most remembered songs of the '90s" quote you dropped yesterday. keep em comin.

Impact is something that's hard to debate without some sort of physical
evidence that they left a mark. And the biggest impact that any of them made, I have already admitted, was when "The Boy Is Mine" dropped. But that's pretty much the only thing that really had impact. They never dropped any classic albums, or game changing albums. Only one out of the three took undeniable risks with their music and image, but impact...nah, I don't think we can make a sound argument out of that.

As far as what I said about Monica, I'd like to clarify. I'm not saying she wasn't known. I'm saying her name wasn't synonymous with her music the way it should have been. Girls used to speak up Monica because she was an undeniably great singer, that much is true. But I don't recall any talk of absolutely needing to get her album (but that was true for all three at the time so). She was an amazing singer, but it sounds like you're trying to compare her hype to someone like Janet or Mariah....but come on, we know you ain't doin that, right?


And what I said about 4 Page Letter... maybe it's just me. As far as R&B songs go, her Timbaland produced singles (which include 4 Page Letter) always were more remembered than Brandy's and Monica's early shyt. Give people 10 seconds to list their singles and I think you'll get everything from 4 Page Letter to Are You That Somebody. For Brandy & Monica, it'll most likely start at The Boy Is Mine and work towards the present. I hardly remember Monica's singles before The Boy Is Mine, and Brandy's singles don't fare much better.

 

[DANJ!]

...furthermore, Brandy SHOULD HAVE been "above" (though I think we could find a better term) those two, because she had a head start - SHE WAS ON A MAJOR NETWORK TV SHOW BEFORE SHE STARTED SINGING!

How did we even start talmbat Brandy and Monica anyway??

Breh... that show lasted half a season. Ain't like she was on A Different World or some shyt.

And what I said about 4 Page Letter... maybe it's just me. As far as R&B songs go, her Timbaland produced singles (which include 4 Page Letter) always were more remembered than Brandy's and Monica's early shyt. Give people 10 seconds to list their singles and I think you'll get everything from 4 Page Letter to Are You That Somebody. For Brandy & Monica, it'll most likely start at The Boy Is Mine and work towards the present. I hardly remember Monica's singles before The Boy Is Mine, and Brandy's singles don't fare much better.

Yeah, that might just be you... "I Wanna Be Down" isn't a song that's remembered? "Baby"? "Dont Take It Personal"? No?

It ain't like "The Boy is Mine" made them stars, their popularity was part of why that song got the play and hype it got, not the other way around. I'm not sure their albums changed the game or anything like that, but they were always two of the top selling R&B artists whenever they were out. As was Aaliyah- and that is one thing she has over them, she made an album that had a lot to do with a change in the sound of late-90s R&B (the Timbaland sound). But to say "4 Page letter" would be more remembered than any Brandy or Monica song not named "Boy Is Mine"... IIIIIIIII dunno bout that one.

 

[CM_Burns]

Main difference is Aaliyah had the GOAT behind the boards

 

[Real]

Oooooooooooooooooooookaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay. NOW u nikkas have invested WAY too much time on this topic

 

[Taadow]

Breh... that show lasted half a season. Ain't like she was on A Different World or some shyt.

It didn't matter that is wasn't a smash. Point is - we knew who she was before she started singing professionally. Also, she got top billing on her own show while being a recording star.

She was a double-threat child star, which is better than being an adult trying to do the same thing from a more successful show - word to Jasmine Guy and Tisha Campbell's singing careers.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

Really, nicca? When her FIRST SINGLE dropped, you just automatically knew how old she was? Is that what you're saying? Her jump off single was more of an adult comtemporary R&B cut than a teeenybop song. The only reason we considered otherwise was because "Age Ain't Nothin' But A Number" came out not long after that.

Nobody would believe Aaliyah on a track gettin' at Brandy over a dude because we all knew Aaliyah could take Brandy's man. LOL

So sit down and stop actlin' like you got the gottdamn "R&B Power Rankings Almanac" from 1998.

"back & forth" is adult contemporary r&b to you? she was marketed as a 15 year old singer from the start homie.

lol @ your excuse for aalyiah not being included in "the boy is mine". you sound like a gay stan(since you want to hurl insults) talembout "gguuurrrllll, aaliyah would take brandy's man(smacks teeth & snaps fingers)".

...furthermore, Brandy SHOULD HAVE been "above" (though I think we could find a better term) those two, because she had a head start - SHE WAS ON A MAJOR NETWORK TV SHOW BEFORE SHE STARTED SINGING!

How did we even start talmbat Brandy and Monica anyway??

THEA?? that show, as good as it was, only had like 10 episodes. and i believe it was off the air nearly 2 years before brandy dropper her tape.

most people watched thea years later when BET started airing re-runs long after brandy blew up. and alot of people that watched thea, didnt even recognize her for a while when she started singing.

wasnt ray j on the sinbad show? if im correct, who remembers that chit? lol.

you act like brandy was tatyana ali or something.

Impact is something that's hard to debate without some sort of physical
evidence that they left a mark. And the biggest impact that any of them made, I have already admitted, was when "The Boy Is Mine" dropped. But that's pretty much the only thing that really had impact. They never dropped any classic albums, or game changing albums. Only one out of the three took undeniable risks with their music and image, but impact...nah, I don't think we can make a sound argument out of that.

As far as what I said about Monica, I'd like to clarify. I'm not saying she wasn't known. I'm saying her name wasn't synonymous with her music the way it should have been. Girls used to speak up Monica because she was an undeniably great singer, that much is true. But I don't recall any talk of absolutely needing to get her album (but that was true for all three at the time so). She was an amazing singer, but it sounds like you're trying to compare her hype to someone like Janet or Mariah....but come on, we know you ain't doin that, right?


And what I said about 4 Page Letter... maybe it's just me. As far as R&B songs go, her Timbaland produced singles (which include 4 Page Letter) always were more remembered than Brandy's and Monica's early shyt. Give people 10 seconds to list their singles and I think you'll get everything from 4 Page Letter to Are You That Somebody. For Brandy & Monica, it'll most likely start at The Boy Is Mine and work towards the present. I hardly remember Monica's singles before The Boy Is Mine, and Brandy's singles don't fare much better.

impact is only hard to debate for people that are out of the loop.

and the comments in the bolded are physical evidence that you werent really in the loop back then. you sound like a dude that listened to the radio as a kid, ran with your picks, assumed that they were the greatest thing since sliced bread, and didnt take anything else into account. and thats not even a diss. some people are like that. some people are much worst actually.

but yea, arguing with you about this is a wash homie.

Unlike you, I post numbers, clips, and proof, and not just talk out the ass. You just ramble on based on opinions sounding an incoherent fool.

Proof Monica and Brandy had real life beef
Brandy & Monica Discuss Past Physical Fight & More On Hot 97 :: The Lava Lizard


Proof Brandy dissed Aaliyah @ 5:27
(RARE) 'AALIYAH Interview At Her 16th Birthday Party

@ 4:35 was a jab @ Aaliyah
Brandy and Wanya Morris - YouTube
What does her image and style being packaged by someone else have to do with the fact that it was STILL too mature a 14 year old? She was 15 singing about banging nikkas. Thats NOT apropriate or even okay to do... She was singing what older people were singing about while Brandy and Monica were singing more teen/kid friendly music. I dont see how this point is so complicated to process in y'all brains. Even her IMAGE was more adult compared to other 2. Aaliyah was always wearing tight bras/naval showing shirts while Brandy and Monica were mostly fully clothed. Come on now.


And you didn't post links because you KNOW Monica isn't more influential or made a bigger impact than Aaliyah. Because if she did, you would post something to support your argument and prove me wrong. But you haven't post proof to support ANYTHING you claimed.

Brandy was above Aaliyah, but Aaliyah and Monica were on the same level, and you don't have ANY facts to prove otherwise. How Monica was on another level with lower album sales? No awards? No Movie career? No Modeling career? No impact or influence? Lol. She lost.

thanks for the videos.

but dog, that brandy/monica fight was AFTER "the boy is mine". what point are you really proving here?

sidenote: i remember the fight being a rumor, and i just brushed it off as such. had no idea they confirmed it recently.

i didnt post links because everything i was referring to is stuff that i sat and watched ON TV!!!! for example, you really didnt have to post that oprah clip. you couldve just said and kept it moving. i wouldve did the same to you.

brandy & monica's music, but aalyiah's wasnt? aalyiah's chit was geared directly towards the youth. and like dude said, brandy & monica were singing songs that couldve easily went to people like whitney. just because aaliyah's songs & gimmick was more provocative, dont mean chit. they all had the same base. brandy's reach was longer than theirs tho.

and yes, all that freaky chit was r.kelly and it matters because youre in here acting like aalyiah was doing groundbreaking stuff when she was really just r.kelly in a wig with the stuff she was doing. if you were really around back then, you would know what im talking about. what she was doing came off as moreso a packaged product rather than an authentic one. monica was seen as the more mature & more street one and thats without dressing up like a gangsta bi*ch and having sex referenes in your music. and back then, talent & authenticity/credibilty were most important. dudes is kinda exposing themselves in here.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

and some of you get too caught up in the hype. just cuz you see somebody making more tv appearances or because they have more outside ventures going on, it doesnt mean that they were bigger within the actual r&b game. you people dont get to playing stupid like this when talking rap, but you want to play dumb-dumb now? using this criteria, i could easily say that nelly >>>> nas. and you same people would be .

the bottom line is:
brandy was the biggest crossover artist in that lane. she was rivaled by monica who was #1 in the hood and also was more respected by serious listeners.

THATS WHY BRANDY & MONICA WERE ALWAYS COMPARED. IT WAS THE SYNONYMOUS COMPARISON FOR THAT LANE FOR A F**KIN REASON!!! the same way you had jodeci/boyz II men, SWV/TLC, etc.

notice, aaliyah was not in the equation. do i have to go further explaining why? ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. i mean, she was definitely on they @$$ but she wasnt in they @$$. she was never really part of the equation like that.

and nobody can dispute this in a respectable manner. only poster in here reppin the aaliyah flag that i respect is a dude that's beating around the bush like a muthasucka and prolly not even typing his posts with a str8 face. i think he quit this thread anyway, wherever hes at.

I didn't mean flop as in one-hit wonder but in terms of exposure and visible impact. Growing up with them and their music, there always seemed to be a time when there was a "Where's Monica?" period, then she'd hit you with another one. Looking back in retrospect, the numbers and dates say that she was busier than the others music wise, it's just that we didn't see it then. Brandy had her soundtracks and random singles and collabos. Aaliyah was seemingly headed down that oblivion road until Timbaland gave her a second life which propelled her above them for a brief minute.

But also during that time is when the climate changed. Media stopped playing the sultry melodic songs for more uptempo music. That's definitely not Monica's thing...not really Brandy's either but Aaliyah thrived with that crowd.

yea, we're cut from the same cloth in here. i figured thats what you meant but it just didnt come out right. had to get you to elaborate on that. yea, monica always kinda kept it low-key(which is what i prefer actually). she would have the game on smash for a year or so, then dissappear until its time for the next album. on the other hand, brandy had moesha. and aalyiah knew how to keep her name bubbling by giving legit singles to soundtracks. looking back, i dont know why more artists didnt do that. seems like most people would drop a crazy soundtrack joint right before or right after their album run.

so yea, i can understand why some of the more casual & impressionable people that may not have been serious followers of the music, or people that may not be in tune with urban america back then would think aaliyah had more pull than monica, especially in hindsight.

 

[MBwithadream]

you are forgetting,...like usual.

that aaliyah was in trouble and lost marketing exposure and saturation.

from the r kelly edgy content connection.
plus later content connection and subsequent underage marriage.

which eliminated her legs to draw.

as well as monica and brandy, in a sustained level or manner

brandy was the accepted mother's group black teen female rnb artist in pop culture as well. whereas monica was the accepted anti-thesis edgier content nemesis to brandy's syrupy draw and tv star appeal.
as monica talked about pms. with a more ms jones like adult draw.

aaliyah, was the raunchy street.
mama groups don't wanna hear that mess, during the day/primetime time slot. that arose from the master of twelve play freak r kelly.

aaliyah was like the ghetto hood adina howard in the making draw perception wise. which came from r kelly's draw.

aaliyah never sold a lot because of the marriage fiasco.

plus the dwindled draw of not working with kelly, publically.
plus, the long term resolution in the press on the underage marriage thing.

when everyone in chicago knew aaliyah and r kelly were an item in 94.

beyounce was never on aaliyah's level when it came to draw as a solo.
nor, in quality of music.

if beyounce was,...she and dc would not have gotten dropped.
plus, would not have had to struggle and need sales spike era bought records on the second album to be relevent.

plus, when they disbanded the first incarnation of dc. female fans turned on her and survivor her first foray into writing fell on def ears as well.
as this is how ashanti's draw got more burn. as ashanti's was pr as the better songwriter worker than dc and beyounce as a solo artist.

of which neither beyounce or ashanti.

were on aaliyah's level as a star or quality song maker.

if beyounce was on aaliyah's level.

it would be way more posted older beyounce songs.
plus recent ones to match aaliyah's dominant run of singles And soundtrack movie money records.
that had youtube links to them to express the sentiment of her body of work incomparison to aaliyah as well.

plus real talk, beyounce never was seen as havin sex appeal.
till she bit aaliyah on the beach aesthetic in rock the boat.

for her beyounce dances in the sand wack as fukk vid.

also,..beyounce could never dance till she worked exclusively at it as a solo artist.

of which she still lacks sex appeal and is stiff as fukk.

dudes like how beyounce looks. she does not have come hither sex appeal.

that aaliyah had or embodied as a draw.

as aaliyah was able to swoon a grown as r kelly and adult market, as an underage talent in baggy gear.

beyounce is like tyra moore of rnb,..nice to look at but not someone you like cause you know they are sexy, or exude sexiness.
aaliyah was sexy in baggy jeans, had sex/street appeal, dance moves and was believeable on camera.

with way better music and production every step of the way.

aaliyah was produced and written by the most innovative team of the late nineties gen. who were from the past previous best written and produced group from the mca way of thought, jodeci.
plus, just to start twelve play era r kelly, As well.

dc was not on aaliyah's level till the third relaunch with kandy burris writing.
that was a lift off of tlc's scrub man hater club aesthetic.

which falsely drove them to diamond,..in the sales spike era.

so real talk,..anybody saying beyounce is a liar.

as easily aaliyah, came from the pedigree of the best rnb in the past twenty years.

plus was glady knight's neice.

a child hood star that also outdrew and performed with more national accolades than beyounce in girl tyme as a child as well.

as girl tyme did not sing as well as aaliyah then, either.
as they were more a biv10 rap and bullshyt dance troupe to aaliyah.
that had beyounce as an out of breath tboz/tlc frontwoman. aided by kelly, and latavia backing her up for punch.

nikkaz trying to change history.
straight out the jayz revisionist playbook.
plus apply rap aesthetics to rnb. to hold up their wack, do not know history Ass arguements.

how is beyounce better when historically.
she did not even have the best team of writers/producers, behind her.

nor was she more talented than aaliyah as a solo vocalist at all.

plus had to ramp up as a singer.
whom also just had the frontwoman role on some diana/supremes shyt.

when beyounce has even said kelly sings and has a more powerful voice than her.

beyounce is a ramped up good singer now.

like alicia keys had to be ramped up.
neither were on aaliyah's level as teen stars.

plus neither had convinceability to get over with adult audiences like aaliyah as well.

if they did,..they would have been out as solo artist with a green light.

like aaliyah, had...not getting dropped from powerful labels at the time.

needing a second chance and further grooming.

you can go look up the star search and old demos.

to see who had more talent and why aaliyah was better and more successful early on as a solo teen than beyounce.

plus had a bigger string of hits.

without going pop,..plus the segueway between Her albums was larger because she charted hugely with movie money hits.

so she never needed another album, like beyounce.

has to do to stay relevent using the kiss record release formula.






art barr

People forget prior to the Jay Z/Beyounce couple get together song Bonnie & Clyde, Dilemma was making Kelly Rowland, the surprise breakout star of the group.

 

[ManBearPig]

one doesnt have that much booty and the other one has a massive amount of it.

 

[MBwithadream]

CMON DOG!

DONT ACK LIKE YOU DON ROLL DOWN THE BLOCK BUMPIN "SURVIVOR" SNAPPIN YO NECK OR LAY YOUR GIRL DOWN WITH "SINGLE LADIES" IN THE BACK


THAT CLASSIC SMOOTH shyt


BEYONCE NEW AGE TINA TURNAR BUT WITH BETTER VOCALS, MUSIC AND ASS.

 

[JustCKing]

and some of you get too caught up in the hype. just cuz you see somebody making more tv appearances or because they have more outside ventures going on, it doesnt mean that they were bigger within the actual r&b game. you people dont get to playing stupid like this when talking rap, but you want to play dumb-dumb now? using this criteria, i could easily say that nelly >>>> nas. and you same people would be .

the bottom line is:
brandy was the biggest crossover artist in that lane. she was rivaled by monica who was #1 in the hood and also was more respected by serious listeners.

THATS WHY BRANDY & MONICA WERE ALWAYS COMPARED. IT WAS THE SYNONYMOUS COMPARISON FOR THAT LANE FOR A F**KIN REASON!!! the same way you had jodeci/boyz II men, SWV/TLC, etc.

notice, aaliyah was not in the equation. do i have to go further explaining why? ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. i mean, she was definitely on they @$$ but she wasnt in they @$$. she was never really part of the equation like that.

and nobody can dispute this in a respectable manner. only poster in here reppin the aaliyah flag that i respect is a dude that's beating around the bush like a muthasucka and prolly not even typing his posts with a str8 face. i think he quit this thread anyway, wherever hes at.



yea, we're cut from the same cloth in here. i figured thats what you meant but it just didnt come out right. had to get you to elaborate on that. yea, monica always kinda kept it low-key(which is what i prefer actually). she would have the game on smash for a year or so, then dissappear until its time for the next album. on the other hand, brandy had moesha. and aalyiah knew how to keep her name bubbling by giving legit singles to soundtracks. looking back, i dont know why more artists didnt do that. seems like most people would drop a crazy soundtrack joint right before or right after their album run.

so yea, i can understand why some of the more casual & impressionable people that may not have been serious followers of the music, or people that may not be in tune with urban america back then would think aaliyah had more pull than monica, especially in hindsight.

I think that the reasons why people would say Aaliyah was bigger than Brandy and Monica is because of the impact. Aaliyah's songs and albums had more impact than Brandy's and Monica's even though they were selling more and charting higher. Take "Are You That Somebody" for example, it didn't chart higher than Monica's "First Night", or Brandy/Monica's "The Boy Is Mine", but the impact that it had was bigger. In '98, Brandy and Monica ruled R&B, but it's like their singles and albums from that year are hardly talked about or discussed. At least not in the manner that "Are You That Somebody" is in terms of how that song impacted the genre.

Aaliyah wasn't bigger than Brandy or Monica, she just stood out more because of the sound and she was more low key.

 

[Art Barr]

I think that the reasons why people would say Aaliyah was bigger than Brandy and Monica is because of the impact. Aaliyah's songs and albums had more impact than Brandy's and Monica's even though they were selling more and charting higher. Take "Are You That Somebody" for example, it didn't chart higher than Monica's "First Night", or Brandy/Monica's "The Boy Is Mine", but the impact that it had was bigger. In '98, Brandy and Monica ruled R&B, but it's like their singles and albums from that year are hardly talked about or discussed. At least not in the manner that "Are You That Somebody" is in terms of how that song impacted the genre.

Aaliyah wasn't bigger than Brandy or Monica, she just stood out more because of the sound and she was more low key.

another person, who does not know the hsotory or cultural relevence of aaliyah.
running their mouths in this thread.

you can tell who was cognitive.
or who had the wherewithal enough to even research this topic.

again, monica and brandy,..got to draw because of aaliyah.
plus their labels taking advantage of aaliyah's underage ststutory rape marriage to r.kelly. which created damaging stigma, pr and perception towards aaliyah's kd sexy draw with mr twelve play.

i wish the oerson who even mentioned brandy and monica would die.

as it is completely obvious that poster.
did not and still doee not have a grasp of what actuallytooknplace in that time.

as no one who was around and knows the full history would even mention brandy and monica.

if they knew the full history of how brandy and monica's draw and permeation came about. which was distinctly from splitting and making the draw from aaliyah into pg safe content. which is how monica and brandy even had impact in the market place.


art barr

 

[Taadow]

"back & forth" is adult contemporary r&b to you? she was marketed as a 15 year old singer from the start homie.

Nicca..."Back & Forth" is the same kinda song as "Hey Mr. DJ", and that wasn't marketed as "teenage R&B". It was something you could hear at the club or the house party, it's just that teens were bumping it too.

lol @ your excuse for aalyiah not being included in "the boy is mine". you sound like a gay stan(since you want to hurl insults) talembout "gguuurrrllll, aaliyah would take brandy's man(smacks teeth & snaps fingers)".

I find it funny that you went the gay angle wit' it...

If you had two girls on your line, and one was looking like Brandy and the other looked like Aaliyah, which one would you press? Ain't nothin' gay about that...unless you on something I ain't on...