Man Can’t Get Heart Transplant Because He’s Not Vaccinated Against COVID

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What?
1. Covid is running rampant right now. They expect damn near everybody to catch this latest variant
2. People with serious health issues are more likely to be hospitalized or die from COVID. He is a part of the population who definitely should be getting the vaccine, even if you think people who are otherwise healthy don’t need it.
3. People who get organ transplants automatically have weakened immune systems, making them more susceptible to sickness. So much that in extreme cases they could die from something as small as a cold

It is obvious why they wouldn’t want to give a heart to someone who doesn’t want to take a simple precaution to make the transplant viable post-op.
Organs are already extremely limited. Why risk it on someone who doesn’t want to do everything possible to make sure it goes well?
-I was responding specifically to them saying he'd be dead in a week & a random person with the vaxx would live this long life.
-If you read the conversation I already said I think he needs to take the shot & get the heart. My post has nothing to do with the doctors.
 

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Considering Omicron is more transmissible than Alpha, the variant my cousin had, no, it's neither stupid nor off topic.
It's probable.​
-Your cousin actually had it, this dude doesn't. Someone saying he'll be dead in a week after getting the surgery's stupid to me since it's also probable he doesn't.
The risk is still there and it can't be ignored. Those safeguards are there for a reason.
-I didn't disagree with the doctors safe guards. My point has nothing to do with that.
 

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Weird how the daily mail doesn't give a shyt about people that can't afford healthcare and die due to that in America. But think this a$$hole who won't take a free vaccine in order to get his heart deserves sympathy because he follows their ideology. None of these people should be taken seriously in any way shape or form. fukk him, and fukk the media that peddle this garbage
please refer to their newspaper by the proper name: The Daily Heil.
 

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-Your cousin actually had it, this dude doesn't. Someone saying he'll be dead in a week after getting the surgery's stupid to me since it's also probable he doesn't.

If he gets COVID, which is FAR more probable than not due to it's transmissibility AND he's in a hospital, he will die faster than my cousin who survived HIV for 30 years and didn't need a heart transplant.

There's nothing stupid about that statement. They don't give livers to alcoholics, they don't give lungs to smokers, they don't give kidneys to overweight people, and this dude is not getting a heart because he's a stupid hypocrite.

Your entire take on this event is out of emotion rather than logic. It's simple: get the shots and live, don't get the shots and die.

He chose death.

No reason for his idiocy to deprive someone of life who'll appreciate it.​
 

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You cant aeem to stay on topic.
You working around kids means nothing.

There is no reason for anyone to be denied medical treatment over their refusal to take a ineffective vaccine. Period.
They dont do this for thise who dont have the flu vaccine, they dont do this for folks who dont have MMR vaccines, and etc

Its wrong bit look at you out here defending medical malpractice and trying to act like you ha e some moral high ground while politicizing healthcare.
yes they do you dumb piece of shyt. why is it always the dumbasses that speak with such authority.

this was even posted in this very thread, but you wouldn't have seen it because another telltale sign of a dumbass is an inability to comprehend what they are reading.

Vaccinations Before and After Heart Transplant - Northwestern ...https://www.nm.org › media › patients-and-visitors

PDF from Northwestern Hospital telling soon to be heart transplant recipients what vaccines they'll need to have before the operation.

From February 2016.
 

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-Your cousin actually had it, this dude doesn't. Someone saying he'll be dead in a week after getting the surgery's stupid to me since it's also probable he doesn't.

-I didn't disagree with the doctors safe guards. My point has nothing to do with that.

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If he got all these other vaccines but not for Covid than what are these "principles" he claims to have?

After surgery he'll be in ICU for a while. There's Covid patients in the unit he's at and he's going to be around nurses, doctors, and staff who will be exposed. Any family that comes to visit could also be exposed. After he's sent home he could be exposed.

The risk is too high so no shots no transplant. It's that simple. He has no valid reason to not get vaccinated. The rules are the rules. There's no defending him. This is political grandstanding.
 

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:mjlol: You must be trolling. It's not the transplant itself, it's the immunosuppressants that they put you on. Vax for Hepatitis, flu, etc. are required for transplants, along with diet and lifestyle restrictions like smoking and alcohol. Die mad about it. :yeshrug:
No flu vaccines are not required.
Stop lying, they have a recommended assortment but they have never been rrquired to recieve heart transplants or other organ transplants. Especially ineffective vaccines that have been shown not to stop infection or transmission like the covid vaccines.

You all ao want to politicize a health issue that you are arguing for medical apartheid and trying to act like you are knowledgeable and ethical while promoting bs zero covid eugenic policies
 

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So tell me why he cant get a heart transplant...

Dr. Arthur Caplan is Head of Medical Ethics at NYU Grossman School of Medicine. He says being vaccinated is necessary for this type of procedure. "Post any transplant, kidney, heart whatever, your immune system is shut off," Caplan said. "The flu could kill you, a cold could kill you, COVID could kill you. The organs are scarce, we are not going to distribute them to someone who has a poor chance of living when others who are vaccinated have a better chance post-surgery of surviving."
 

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So he making up shyt because if your immune system is cut off guess what those traditional vaccines arent doing? They arent working.

Smh.

These folks are murdering people for political purity. Covid vaxx isnt and doesnt aid the immune system in fighting infection
 

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If he got all these other vaccines but not for Covid than what are these "principles" he claims to have?
After surgery he'll be in ICU for a while. There's Covid patients in the unit he's at and he's going to be around nurses, doctors, and staff who will be exposed. Any family that comes to visit could also be exposed. After he's sent home he could be exposed.
The risk is too high so no shots no transplant. It's that simple. He has no valid reason to not get vaccinated. The rules are the rules. There's no defending him. This is political grandstanding.
:manny:
-I don't care about his principles or his reason. I already said I'm not against the decision & I think he needs to get the shot to get the heart. I'm not defending him.
 
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