Man Can’t Get Heart Transplant Because He’s Not Vaccinated Against COVID

[mobbinfms]

This vaccine is different and hasn't undergone the necessary clinical trials that previous vaccines have.

False.

 

[mobbinfms]

It's actually safer for him to wait for a few months then get the vaccine.

Is that your medical opinion based on a review of the patients medical records, test results and a physical exam? If not, what is the basis for your opinion?

 

[mobbinfms]

I'm not qualified to say. There's also the difference that

If you’re not qualified to say how long the vaccine trials should be, then how are you qualified to say they weren’t long enough? As you just did in this thread.

 

[mobbinfms]

Strawman

That’s not a straw man. It’s the crux of the issue if side effects is a concern.

 

[Supa]

People remain unvaxxed for several vastly differing reasons. His may be religious in which case he'd probably wish to return to his maker 'untainted.'

That's not the case:

"Brigham told us he has to have the vaccine to accept a heart," Ferguson said. "He is not an anti-vaxx person. He has all of his vaccines, but there are some adverse reactions given his condition, and he is a man, he made his decision."

Ferguson says her son's medical team assured him it would be OK to receive the COVID-19 vaccine.

"I think he was scared and defeated when they told him, made him inactive," she said. "Now, he is making decisions, he is trying to work with them to try and rationalize everything."

"He said to the doctor, 'Are you really going to let me die over a shot?'" she said. "All of my children, they are all vaccinated, he did his own homework, and made his own decision."

Something isn't adding up

The hospital can't speak on his specific case because that's against the law. I'm thinking him and his family are clout chasing. Either he was not high on the list and they think public pressure would force the hospital or another one to find him a heart, they're trying to get a gofundme, or he wants to be a martyr. This makes no sense at all.

 

[mobbinfms]

Did I?

I'm really tired of you guys condemning people for choosing to not get the vaccine.

None of you guys are scientists. You only go off what others tell you...

But those others are scientists

 

[MeachTheMonster]

People remain unvaxxed for several vastly differing reasons. His may be religious in which case he'd probably wish to return to his maker 'untainted.'

Any religion against a vaccine would also be against getting a whole ass heart

 

[HarlemHottie]

Any religion against a vaccine would also be against getting a whole ass heart

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

-Are you fukking slow? Emotional? My take on the "Event" is he should get the shot & live, straight logic. If he chooses to die on principle that's on him.
-Went right into "If he gets Covid" hypothetical shyt, I'm done with that. Then followed with "kidneys" & more irrelevant shyt.

You're slowly being more emotional. Your 'take' is nonsensical and the hypothetical is EXACTLY why he's not getting a heart. His immune system will be shut down, during a pandemic, in a hospital, unvaccinated.

The heart should go to someone with a better chance of survival and you need to stop trying to 'win' an argument about the morality of the TRAINED PHYSICIAN'S OPINION concerning a hypocrite who doesn't want the best chance to live.

Ol' "We don't know the long term effects"-ass .

We know you can die from COVID in a couple days to a week, especially in his condition.​

 

[jadillac]

Die for Joe Rogan and Rizza Islam crehs

Donald Trump is likely the real reason

It's like that bit where Trump starts a fight with a crowd and while the ppl are brawling against each , Trump crawls out from the pile and stands back watching them

 

[MyApps]

But those others are scientists

Your not getting my point.

Those scientists that are being trusted can and sometimes do fall victim to their own bad judgment.

And this often happens when those scientists appeal to the authority of other scientists, a literal logical fallacy.

If a person is not a scientist or cannot conduct their own experiments or effectively use critical thinking, then said person should refrain from speaking/debating on the subject with conviction. Unless they don't mind being proven wrong and can take a L.

The ego of most people will not allow that.

 

[hashmander]

People remain unvaxxed for several vastly differing reasons. His may be religious in which case he'd probably wish to return to his maker 'untainted.'

but returning to your maker with a heart he gave someone else is cool? "hey man they had to do what they had to do because the one you gave me was shyt. some god you are."

 

[MyApps]

Is that your medical opinion based on a review of the patients medical records, test results and a physical exam? If not, what is the basis for your opinion?

Based on a very conservative approach to new scientific methodologies.

The vaccine has been out a little over 1.5 years. Give it sometime before making rash decisions.

 

[Sampson]

Oh well. He should add beneficiaries to his accounts and make final arrangements.

 

[ImLionyall]

That's not the case:



Something isn't adding up

The hospital can't speak on his specific case because that's against the law. I'm thinking him and his family are clout chasing. Either he was not high on the list and they think public pressure would force the hospital or another on to find him a heart, they're trying to get a gofundme, or he wants to be a martyr. This makes no sense at all.

I'm thinking that too. He's too far down the list and/or his financials are lacking. Cac is trynna leverage MAGAt sympathy/anger into a 6 figure gofund or political intervention. Ted Cruz already has eyes on this.

This maybe be a nonviolent John Q situation. He may be smarter than us all.