“Marcus Garvey was a fat tether”- The Honorable Tariq Nasheed

[HarlemHottie]

Of course Dems keep an eye on those with influence in the Black community.

Tariq has been on Fox, VladTV, The Breakfast Club etc... many other outlets he was on, or talked about him...

Don't try to change what I said. I said she is ECHOING talking points. The same bytch who said she wasn't gon do nothing specifically for us and who CHIDED US on expectations of receiving anything for our vote is now repeating Tariq damn near word for word. "It's okay" and "I give you permission." Foh with this disingenuous bs.



38: 00 You know how I was talking earlier about how people are so transactional? I think we need to be transactional voters.

I think yes, it is right when we are trying to get folks to register to vote and to go vote. And it is absolutely right that we remind everyone of our history, especially when they're trying to erase it. We remind people of the lives, the bloodshed on the Edund Pettis Bridge, the the sacrifice of those young people at the lunch counter. We the assassination of Dr. King. We There are so many things that we must remember about history.

So that what compels us to vote includes not only our civic duty, but honoring the ancestors. Yes.

And here's what I'm suggesting. In addition, get yours.

Vote and say, "I'm voting because I expect something out of this." You're not going to take for granted that I'm going to vote because I'm a good citizen and it's my civic duty to vote. So that you don't even worry about whether you're producing what I need because oh, we can count on them to vote because they remember the Edmond Pettis Bridge.

I'm saying it's okay to also give people permission to be transactional and to say if you going to get my vote, this is what I expect.

I'm going to vote cuz I expect some to get something out of this. I'm going to get mine by voting. That's what I would offer. I think it's okay to give people permission to be transactional voters.

 

[Ish Gibor]

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Don't try to change what I said. I said she is ECHOING talking points. The same bytch who said she wasn't gon do nothing specifically for us and who CHIDED US on expectations of receiving anything for our vote is now repeating Tariq damn near word for word. "It's okay" and "I give you permission." Foh with this disingenuous bs.



38: 00 You know how I was talking earlier about how people are so transactional? I think we need to be transactional voters.

I think yes, it is right when we are trying to get folks to register to vote and to go vote. And it is absolutely right that we remind everyone of our history, especially when they're trying to erase it. We remind people of the lives, the bloodshed on the Edund Pettis Bridge, the the sacrifice of those young people at the lunch counter. We the assassination of Dr. King. We There are so many things that we must remember about history.

So that what compels us to vote includes not only our civic duty, but honoring the ancestors. Yes.

And here's what I'm suggesting. In addition, get yours.

Vote and say, "I'm voting because I expect something out of this." You're not going to take for granted that I'm going to vote because I'm a good citizen and it's my civic duty to vote. So that you don't even worry about whether you're producing what I need because oh, we can count on them to vote because they remember the Edmond Pettis Bridge.

I'm saying it's okay to also give people permission to be transactional and to say if you going to get my vote, this is what I expect.

I'm going to vote cuz I expect some to get something out of this. I'm going to get mine by voting. That's what I would offer. I think it's okay to give people permission to be transactional voters.

I didn’t change what you said, I reinforced what you said.

Tariq is well known, so it’s not out of the ordinary they will use his political ideology.

 

[Ish Gibor]

It was actually West Indians that got Garvey booted from the USA

Cyril Briggs is the one who gathered the information to take down Garvey

the agent you posted above even confirmed this along with WEST INDIANS such as Domingo:

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they called him out for fuking with the KKK

They openly admitted they were the ones that got him jailed and were happy when he was booted

Respect for knowing this topic so well.

 

[No Sleep]

@IllmaticDelta @HarlemHottie yall shut down all that ChatGTP writing.

 

[Plankton]

Powerless individuals have been in this thread doing a circle jerk for days, thinking that they really cooking. Meanwhile the streets named after Garvey. Parks named after Garvey. Schools named after Garvey. Murals created for Garvey. Rappers acknowledging Garvey and the Global recognition of the Pan-African flag aren't going anywhere.



Nothing negative said about Garvey in this thread is changing the Garvey acknowledgement in the real world. FACTS.


The real world > Powerless individuals in this thread.

 

[No Sleep]

@Plankton do you think it was a good idea on Garvey to partner up with the KKK?

You bragging on streets and stuff named after Garvey when it’s a whole hospital named after racist ass Thomas Grady and confederates all over, so the naming stuff after people is so iffy!

 

[Wiseborn]

It was actually West Indians that got Garvey booted from the USA

Cyril Briggs is the one who gathered the information to take down Garvey

the agent you posted above even confirmed this along with WEST INDIANS such as Domingo:

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they called him out for fuking with the KKK

They openly admitted they were the ones that got him jailed and were happy when he was booted

Nah fukk that you can´t post novels saying but but they did it too There´s cowards in every community and if you try to prentend they´re not that´s the epidome of smart dumb nikka thinking. It´s good to ride for your tribe but lets not be stupid about shyt.

I try not be anti my own people but the simple fact is if for the where your family from mob If your family lived in Hard time Mississippi the compromises your ancestors had to make up an until the late sixites where amazing apparently the first time a cracker raped a Black Maid was in 1969 and in that case she lost.


But I don´t want to go crazy on that but suffice it to say every single slave rebellion in the united states failed because an FBA c00n told on them. That´s not because FBA´s are c00ns in way Haitians were not they just didn´t have the overwhelming numbers nor did they have the rememberance of resistance because most Slaves where born in America compared to Slaves in the West Indies and if you were particularly rebellious They sold you to the West Indies.

That´s the essentail issue with calling yourself FBA It means that you consider yourself the same as cacs born of this land you call yourself American.

To me saying We built this country is kind of a L itself one thing is for certain we have struggled to build and maintain are own institutions granted it´s easier to do that when you´re 90% or more of the land you occupy.

 

[Uachet]

@Plankton do you think it was a good idea on Garvey side to partner up with the KKK?

You bragging on streets and stuff named after Garvey whens it’s a whole hospital named after racist ass Thomas Grady and confederate all over so the naming stuff after people is so iffy!

I've said it before, they care more about the narrative (beautiful lie) than the truth. Whether he has streets, buildings, etc named after him is immaterial to the fact that he aligned with WS, never stepped foot in Africa (though his whole grift was a back to Africa movement), and supported Lynching and Jim Crow. Add to it he had himself named as President of the Republic of Africa, no vote involved mind you, and it is easy to see what sort of man he really was. He was the Umar of his day.

 

[Plankton]

I've said it before, they care more about the narrative (beautiful lie) than the truth.

Do not put words in my mouth. I already explained my position numerous in this thread days ago for all to see and it has nothing to do with caring about a "beautiful lie" narrative. If I already explained my position and you ignore that to make up some nonsense that has nothing to do with anything I have already said in this thread then that makes you a liar.



Let me also add that the parks, schools, murals, streets names, conscious rapper acknowledgments and pan-African recognition are facts not "beautiful lies."
And the reality is that FBA's were heavily involved in making all of those acknowledgements happen. FACTS





You can have the final word though, I will never respond back to you because you just exposed yourself as a liar who will just make up stuff on my behalf while ignoring what I actually have said.

 

[Ish Gibor]

@IllmaticDelta @HarlemHottie yall shut down all that ChatGTP writing.

Actually it’s in support, ironically isn’t it?

If you think a human knows more than AI, you are looney in the head.

You need sleep.

 

[Ish Gibor]

@Plankton do you think it was a good idea on Garvey side to partner up with the KKK?

You bragging on streets and stuff named after Garvey whens it’s a whole hospital named after racist ass Thomas Grady and confederate all over so the naming stuff after people is so iffy!

His meeting was not to side with them. It based on separatism. Both strived for the same separatism.

Where Garvey was wrong was that Black Americans should give up America.

I'm not saying that black foreigners at different points haven't gotten down with the Pan-Africanist agenda, I'm saying they haven't done anything that directly helped/benefited Aframs in the way Aframs did for them...

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You might not be aware of it, but those Pan African Congress meetings go back to Henry Mcneal Turner (1893)

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the same Afram who was with Mcneal Turner in 1893 Chicago meeting

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Thanks for posting this. It goes beyond what I was aware about.

It appears they were much more connected globally than I initially thought.

A hidden history of Pan-Africanism: the debate between Garvey and Huiswoud, is it still relevant?

This blog was originally written in Dutch and published on January 24th 2018 The discovery of a historic treasure: The Black Archives This week marks the two-year anniversary since we moved...

www.theblackarchives.nl

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Nah fukk that you can´t post novels saying but but they did it too There´s cowards in every community and if you try to prentend they´re not that´s the epidome of smart dumb nikka thinking. It´s good to ride for your tribe but lets not be stupid about shyt.

I try not be anti my own people but the simple fact is if for the where your family from mob If your family lived in Hard time Mississippi the compromises your ancestors had to make up an until the late sixites where amazing apparently the first time a cracker raped a Black Maid was in 1969 and in that case she lost.


But I don´t want to go crazy on that but suffice it to say every single slave rebellion in the united states failed because an FBA c00n told on them. That´s not because FBA´s are c00ns in way Haitians were not they just didn´t have the overwhelming numbers nor did they have the rememberance of resistance because most Slaves where born in America compared to Slaves in the West Indies and if you were particularly rebellious They sold you to the West Indies.

That´s the essentail issue with calling yourself FBA It means that you consider yourself the same as cacs born of this land you call yourself American.

To me saying We built this country is kind of a L itself one thing is for certain we have struggled to build and maintain are own institutions granted it´s easier to do that when you´re 90% or more of the land you occupy.

1 what does any of this have to do with Garvey or what @IllmaticDelta exposed

2. The objective truth is that we were here going back to the foundation of this country. A continuous multi-generational multiple cultural systems creating- ethnos. There’s no getting around that. This is not a moral claim to get close to “cacs”. In fact fba comes in direct conflict to narratives cacs have been trying to spin for centuries. So what are you dudes talking about lol

If you never had the cultural awareness to recognize the importance of a precision based ethno-lineal identity, that’s on you.

 

[HarlemHottie]

A Black American c00n agent backdoored him.

It was actually West Indians that got Garvey booted from the USA
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They openly admitted they were the ones that got him jailed and were happy when he was booted

Nah fukk that you can´t post novels saying but but they did it too There´s cowards in every community

 

[Plankton]

Let me also respond to that person who came in here talking sideways about what people really call Marcus Garvey Park in Harlem, talking bout "We acknowledge the park by the white mans name not the Melanated mans name." SMH.


But lets look at reality shall we.

In 1970, the Community Thing and other activist groups suggested naming the park for Marcus Garvey, a publisher, journalist, entrepreneur, activist for black nationalism, and founder of the Universal Negro Improvement Association and African Communities League (UNIA-ACL). They also asked that a portion of the newly built recreation center contain a Garvey Museum.[2] That August, the African Nationalist Activist Movement called for a Marcus Garvey Day celebration, and The New York Times noted that the park was already being “called Garvey Memorial Park by some persons.”[3] More than 1,000 people reportedly attended the celebration in the park.[4] The NYC City Council voted to officially rename the park to Marcus Garvey Memorial Park in 1973.

History

www.mmpcia.org

Do you see that? Black activists (People who actually go outside and make things happen in the real world) suggested renaming the park after Garvey. This is what Black folks wanted and made happen.




And approximately 15% of Harlem's Black population is foreign-born and this residency began taking shape during the 1970s. which means Harlem was dominated by FBA's when that happened.



further confirmation that.....

The real world > Powerless individuals in this thread.

 

[HarlemHottie]

If you think a human knows more than AI, you are looney in the head.

You need sleep.

Thanks for posting this. It goes beyond what I was aware about.