Matt Ryan 5yr/$103.75 mil extension.

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[AVXL]

lol at you using cheap hyperboles to try do devalue my point. i never said players should be makin min wage or any other bullshyt. all i said is instead being a stupid sheep and looking at the market you decide whether a player fits YOUR value for him. if he wants more, you let him go and get an underrated player. its a game of value, just like everything in business and life.

lol at being old or disgruntled. im 26 btw. plenty of players deserve their deals, but the qbs dont desever the 3x price. and picks >>>>> because you can build a cheap team via draft and get some more expensive FAs without going to cap hell

whats funny is that my point is clearly understood if you put yourself in my shoes and consider qbs just like any other position. after all youd prolly balk at giving aj green 25milly. but because you cannot fathom the axiom white media and the league tryying to be 'entertaining' has ingrained in your brain, you miss my whole point by miles.

keep fapping to qbs. trip is an expert at it, he can prolly help you

In what business do you not look at what the market bears in terms of establishing value? Elite QBs will always be in demand and be a top paid athlete, especially in todays pass happy NFL. Even with that said every contract is different & teams are deciding that that value DOES fit for them. An elite level QB is worth $100 million dollars. FACT. Almost none of these deals have been about a QB wanting more, it's about a team & player coming to terms on a deal that works for BOTH sides, a point you don't seem to understand b/c you think the starting QB and the backup long snapper should have similar pay stubs

I don't care about your age...it's your mentality I was describing. You sound old as shyt & just contradicted yourself AGAIN: If my value for a QB is $100 million over 5 years that may be 3 or 5 times the price of my starting RB. IF that's how I value my players, that's how I'll pay them...again you can build a team by drafting & paying smart, $100 million for an elite QB is a wise investment

How many times do I have to tell you that QB is NOT like any other position in the NFL. It's not equivalent to a RG or a punter. Positions on teams have different values and those values correlate directly to pay. You're hell bent on a crusade to prove that elite QBs don't deserve big money, but all you've proven is that you have an outdated view on economics & that you have a limited understanding on value in the NFL

 

[yseJ]

In what business do you not look at what the market bears in terms of establishing value?

you do; but you do not have to follow the established conventions.
thats what moneyball is all about- finding overrated things and underrated things and pouncing on the value

in case you dont undestand yet, I think qbs are extremely overrated and in current situation the right strategy is keep drafting new ones every few years if the old ones want 20% of the teams cap.

[ An elite level QB is worth $100 million dollars. FACT

lol so why not 4980294 million ? why not give qbs blank checks ? lol. Almost none of these deals have been about a QB wanting more, it's about a team & player coming to terms on a deal that works for BOTH sides, a point you don't seem to understand

b/c you think the starting QB and the backup long snapper should have similar pay stubs

again, another retarded hyperbole. not only most teams do not have a backup long snapper, a long snapper is not even a part of the 22.

You sound old as shyt & just contradicted yourself AGAIN: If my value for a QB is $100 million over 5 years that may be 3 or 5 times the price of my starting RB. IF that's how I value my players, that's how I'll pay them..

I didnt contradict myself anywhere, I was talking about MY values; not the falcons gm values or your values. my stance is simple.
you clearly are too idiotic to understand this tho

How many times do I have to tell you that QB is NOT like any other position in the NFL. It's not equivalent to a RG or a punter. Positions on teams have different values and those values correlate directly to pay. You're hell bent on a crusade to prove that elite QBs don't deserve big money, but all you've proven is that you have an outdated view on economics & that you have a limited understanding on value in the NFL

you dont have to tell me anything. Ive forgotten more football than you have watched in your life. and you didnt understand anything in terms of economics

 

[yseJ]

funny how both of you qb lovers would endorse the Niners getting peyton manning and giving him 20 million before this year ?

but what did harbaugh do ? kept smith for cheaper, then groomed kaep

oh but what does harbaugh know about football ? not more than homer ass AVXL or trip

theres nothing that says harbaugh cannot do it again with another qb groomed behind kaep. the team is still good around kaep.

THATS how you build a team. not throwing a 5th of your cap at one player.

 

[yseJ]

I can envision tho: bu-bu harbaugh got lucky
niners got lucky in 2011, thats the only reason they made it that far with a sub-par qb, kaep the only reason they made it this far last year

 

[Trip]

funny how both of you qb lovers would endorse the Niners getting peyton manning and giving him 20 million before this year ?

but what did harbaugh do ? kept smith for cheaper, then groomed kaep

oh but what does harbaugh know about football ? not more than homer ass AVXL or trip

theres nothing that says harbaugh cannot do it again with another qb groomed behind kaep. the team is still good around kaep.

THATS how you build a team. not throwing a 5th of your cap at one player.

If the Niners let Kaepernick walk(which isnt happening), replace him and still win 11+ games a season then I'll buy into your theory.

How many teams have gone from one very good QB to another over the past 10 years? Not many. Like you said, they dont grow on trees.

 

[yseJ]

lol, you're acting as if myself or any other fan is forcing GM's to pay the quarterback. They're paying the QB because they see that as the most important piece to consistently having them playing in January. Playing in January = job safety. shyt isnt that difficult.

and Im saying theyre wrong. isnt that difficult to understand. also theyre under pressure from media and fans who'll eat them alive because they are brought up on this stupid idea that QB is god and every other position is inferior.

the romo contract was incredibly stupid for the cowboys, they couldve traded the guy for picks and then drafted a new qb who wouldnt demand that much money. at least with falcons you can see the point- they think they can win now

with romo its absolutely stupid. cowboys aint doin shyt, so might as well build a TEAM for the future instead of paying romo the most money in history

 

[yseJ]

If the Niners let Kaepernick walk(which isnt happening), replace him and still win 11+ games a season then I'll buy into your theory.

How many teams have gone from one very good QB to another over the past 10 years? Not many. Like you said, they dont grow on trees.

actually I meant it that almost any qb who can make nfl throws can be groomed to be decent enough to give team a chance.

you dont just 'get lucky' and pick the right one. you make him. unless of course its a once in generation talent like marino or peyton

 

[Trip]

and Im saying there wrong. isnt that difficult to understand. also theyre under pressure from media and fans who'll eat them alive because they are brought up on this stupid idea that QB is god and every other position is inferior.

the romo contract was incredibly stupid for the cowboys, they couldve traded the guy for picks and then drafted a new qb who wouldnt demand that much money. at least with falcons you can see the point- they think they can win now

with romo its absolutely stupid. cowboys aint doin shyt, so might as well build a TEAM for the future instead of paying romo the most money in history

The Cowboys are a stupid franchise. It is what it is. However I think Romo gets unfairly shytted on- he's not the reason they aren't winning. That division is also a bytch.

 

[Trip]

actually I meant it that almost any qb who can make nfl throws can be groomed to be decent enough to give team a chance.

you dont just 'get lucky' and pick the right one. you make him. unless of course its a once in generation talent like marino or peyton

this is ridiculous on every level imaginable.

 

[yseJ]

The Cowboys are a stupid franchise. It is what it is. However I think Romo gets unfairly shytted on- he's not the reason they aren't winning. That division is also a bytch.

oh I agree about romo, pretty much completely (although hes for some reason terrible in the clutch). it's just there's no reason to pay him at all if they arent going to win anyway...flip him, get picks, rebuild completely. people have problems letting go of a qb even if hes making a ton of money. salary dumps happen all the time...just not with qbs.

 

[yseJ]

this is ridiculous on every level imaginable.

nope. most teams that didnt have good qbs for a while dont know how to handle them properly. obviously you believe in this lottery as a jets fan.

being a good qb is all about making the right decisions and not making mistakes. thats all. anything else on top is a bonus

 

[Trip]

being a good qb is all about making the right decisions and not making mistakes. thats all. anything else on top is a bonus

Why even draft a QB then?

After all- any college QB who can make throws can be groomed into a decent enough QB. Are you reading what youre writing? You cant honestly believe this crap. This is insanity.

 

[Lakers Offseason]

QB is the most important position in sports. And it ain't like good QBs are available by the truckload. You've got teams who haven't had a good QB for decades: Dolphins, Jets, Bills, Browns, Jaguars, Raiders, Chiefs, Cowboys, Vikings, Bears, Bucs, and Rams. That's almost half the league. Redskins, Seahawks, and Niners look like they lucked out with QBs, but it took them decades to finally have their guy.

Ryan may not be top 5, but you gotta keep your QB once you find him.

 

[yseJ]

Why even draft a QB then?

After all- any college QB who can make throws can be groomed into a decent enough QB. Are you reading what youre writing? You cant honestly believe this crap. This is insanity.

ok, any reasonable college QB. lets keep it to drafted qbs.

its not that easy to make nfl throws tho.

also some qbs cannot be groomed due to mental limitations and inability to make quick decision (no cism)...so its a bit more complicated than that.

still the position is 90% mental. you make good decisions, thats all needed. you cant be a good qb without making good decisions, but you can be a good qb without exceptional physical tools