MCHG had the biggest stage ever to deliver for hip-hop, and did not do so

[jilla82]

Do you mind to share your lifetime achievements?; Tell us one thing that you have done or achieved to show that you are above average and not as brain dead as MOST PEOPLE

I quit my job last summer and made a decision to never work for anyone else again....I made more money my first year then I have ever made.
I study and focus on the come up all day everyday. Im dedicated to improving myself....
off to the gym now!

 

[Teko]

I quit my job last summer and made a decision to never work for anyone else again....I made more money my first year then I have ever made.
I study and focus on the come up all day everyday. Im dedicated to improving myself....
off to the gym now!

You quit when you knew they were going to fire you. "I know the type, loud as a motor bike..."

Dedicated to improving yourself

 

[jerzboy]

Yey you stay in his threads like plague.

But no the The Beatles had substance and depth which Jay has as well, but it was mostly personal criticism, analyzing and on. And it was not their main attraction or why people fukked with them.

Of course they had a lot of peace and love as they "grew up" specially Lennon.
And it was not about wars, slaves, poverty and on. The depth was in songs about love letters, insecurities in job applications, hoes, joy of life, hating on taxes and all types of shyt. Not "substantial" as some Nas stan referred to it, but the small things in life.

Which imo Jay-z does as well, but it's the small things in his life. Like not feeling accepted even though he's got mad stacks, the more he gets, the less it means, hypocrisy of people in regards to Cuba/democracy, people from behind wanting to pull him back and people from above wanting to hold him down, everything on the road from nothing to success. And keeping his battle emcee elements with the "my ____ is better than your" mentality, describing his fitting, random cool bars about random things like they used to kick it in the parks. (Which is the part most Nas stans and hipsters don't feel).

1. I get what your saying, but the Beatles cannot be compared to Jay... sorry you just can't convince me (and I don't even like The Beatles)

2. As I said, I'm a Jay fan and he's in my top 5 (even though his catalog is very weak), but you can't mad at people for getting tired of his materialistic talk. I personally don't care. But you have to understand where they are coming from. For an artist of his caliber and being labeled the greatest you have to show more. I mean he does represent the culture.

Mind you he's in my top 5, but where is his Aquemini, Stankonia, Supreme Clientele, any Kanye release after College Dropout, All Eyez On Me, Untitled... Where has he pushed boundaries in his career. He is one of the safest artist to represent their genre while being recognized as the "GOAT". The Black Album was amazing, but wasn't it still safe... Did we not get a "Change Clothes" with that shyt??

I think honestly think once Jay stops releasing albums a lot of his catalog will be forgotten. I'll still go back and play his stuff, but once he loses his ability to show up on TV and keep reminding you he's the "best", I can see the music going away.

3. As far as shyt talking, he is the best at it... but when it comes to depth, you have to admit he fails a lot of the time. I'll compare him to a person like Vince Carter.... Probably the greatest dunker of all time (shyt talking on records, is the equivalent to dunking; mindless, senseless shyt that gets the fans "going"); that's what he does. Is he even mentioned as one of the greats in basketball... He excelled at what he did, and has some memorable moments in games, but his career as a whole is somewhat forgettable. I'm not saying Jay is forgettable (cause he does have classics), but you can see why people may be getting tired of him.

 

[Steve Piffler]

He's more The Beatles than Bob Marley.

actually, he's more Frank Lucas than Ludacris....

Spoiler

and luda's my dude, i ain't tryna diss....

 

[SuburbanPimp]

I thought the album was good, and it gets better everytime I listen to it.

Dudes really saying this album sucks, but Drake's "Versace" verse is the best thing they've heard this year

 

[NUPE 1911]

I always said placing the title of greatest ever on someone as shallow and vapid as Jay-Z does a great disservice to the culture...The pre-release hype over this dud is just another example of that.. Trayvon's killer is about to go free and the "biggest figure and living legend" is rapping about European art and Miley Cyrus twerking..Whenever I hear someone say Jay-Z is the greatest, I know they don't love hip hop and more than likely hate Black people...

 

[HARLEM AL]

I always said placing the title of greatest ever on someone as shallow and vapid as Jay-Z does a great disservice to the culture...The pre-release hype over this dud is just another example of that.. Trayvon's killer is about to go free and the "biggest figure and living legend" is rapping about European art and Miley Cyrus twerking..Whenever I hear someone say Jay-Z is the greatest, I know they don't love hip hop and more than likely hate Black people...

nikka please

 

[Big Skilly Films]

I always said placing the title of greatest ever on someone as shallow and vapid as Jay-Z does a great disservice to the culture...The pre-release hype over this dud is just another example of that.. Trayvon's killer is about to go free and the "biggest figure and living legend" is rapping about European art and Miley Cyrus twerking..Whenever I hear someone say Jay-Z is the greatest, I know they don't love hip hop and more than likely hate Black people...

like jay aint the king of hiphop...

 

[T.he I.nformant]

1. Motherfukkers had performances on Grammy awards (this alone has 5 million views more than Game 7 and like 15 million more than Game 5 ), Oscars, Superbowl, commercials running for months (even Jay electronica had a Mountain Dew commercial running for months). An obscure commercial with the most famous rapper already sitting talking about dualities and saying he's dropping album will not get more people to buy/downloaded/streamed to it than people who wouldn't have bought/downloaded/streamed it in first place.

2. This album was clearly for the fans, not the pop fans. That was BP3.
Newspapers that gave this 2/5 gave BP3 4/5. No pop music at all, no political correctness, no sympathy for cacs and c00ns reluctance to black wealth, only promotion being tweeting with fans and a Samsung commercial with no music.


Could it be better? yes. But at your 17th album, 13th #1 , I don't think pleasing non-fans is a priority. He made an album wanting to talk the greasiest shyt he can talk and the fans who know that style of rap seem to enjoy it. The people who were expecting music about slaves or new Empire State of Mind ballads need to fall the fukk back and buy his old albums. This is the old the first time since 1998-99 where Jay is talking that disgusting shyt. And it's not for everyone, it's for the streets, the fans. Just like Yeezy dropped an album for the fans, the alternative people etc.

If anything I'm glad that he didn't go safe like American Gangster or BP3. And just flat out made a whole album of songs like Jay-z Blue, Nickels and Dimes etc even though they might be the "best" songs on the album they are too damn basic on your 17th album. If he drops another album he might go the safe route like other rappers and do what people want him to do.

So much unnecessary dikkriding. 17th album? Safe like AG? Black wealth? You mean Jay-Z wealth. Only promotion is blah bla blah. Get that nikka's children out ya mouth, b. Wipe ya mouth of that rainbow.

 

[wire28]

The reason people like this, and critics dont (not sure, just saw someone said critics arent into it) is because this shyt is like someone else said, "the music of the moment". He got dope producers, and JT to open the album.

Its easy to ride to...you dont even have to pay attention to what he's saying.

That's a major reason people "in the real world" love the album, and they don't even know it, especially the bolded. Jays rhymes on here were lackluster, and that's putting aside they were about the same topics as usual.

I think it was a cool album and like you said nice to ride to, but nothing ground breaking and probably not worth all the hype either.

 

[Big Skilly Films]

@gater_king you b1tch you negged me cause i speak the truth? faq

 

[Harry B]

So much unnecessary dikkriding. 17th album? Safe like AG? Black wealth? You mean Jay-Z wealth. Only promotion is blah bla blah. Get that nikka's children out ya mouth, b. Wipe ya mouth of that rainbow.

Explicitly point out the dikkriding you mishap.
Use words, slang whatever the fukk you want to point out the outrageousness in what I said? Half of it is facts.

1. He's got 16 album 12 solo and 4 collabos. 18 if you count Streets is watchin and Unplugged. Yet somehow it's dikkriding for mentioning the amount of albums he has.

2. IMO Jay-z is in his safest zone when he drops drugdealer music, that's what he does, what he knows, what he can do in his sleep, shyt that make people lose interest. Yet somehow it's dikkriding.

3. Me calling out people for hating on black wealth, which you say is Jay-z wealth does it make it any better? Are you really justifying people to hate on people who came from nothing to a lot through hard work. Get your own or shut the fukk up about it. You ain't got to like a dudes music or his personality or whatever the fukk, but hating on his hard work and dedication is amazingly lame.

I was referring to rapper wealth specifically.
People who see Dre's stacks and say ahh he's Jimmy Iovines bytch, see Puff and say he fukked over everyone to get where he's at and on.

4. I pointed out the only promotion that had taken place up until the day of this thread in relation to other promotion campaigns, trying to get a clear picture of what the fukk the thread starter is talking about. And this again is dikkriding? Who?

 

[dunkman6]

Sometimes y'all over think things and just can't sit back and enjoy shyt.

 

[OG Talk]

@gater_king you b1tch you negged me cause i speak the truth? faq

I negged you because you quoted me and you haven't earned that right yet...

 

[T.he I.nformant]

Explicitly point out the dikkriding you mishap.
Use words, slang whatever the fukk you want to point out the outrageousness in what I said? Half of it is facts.

1. He's got 16 album 12 solo and 4 collabos. 18 if you count Streets is watchin and Unplugged. Yet somehow it's dikkriding for mentioning the amount of albums he has.

2. IMO Jay-z is in his safest zone when he drops drugdealer music, that's what he does, what he knows, what he can do in his sleep, shyt that make people lose interest. Yet somehow it's dikkriding.

3. Me calling out people for hating on black wealth, which you say is Jay-z wealth does it make it any better? Are you really justifying people to hate on people who came from nothing to a lot through hard work. Get your own or shut the fukk up about it. You ain't got to like a dudes music or his personality or whatever the fukk, but hating on his hard work and dedication is amazingly lame.

I was referring to rapper wealth specifically.
People who see Dre's stacks and say ahh he's Jimmy Iovines bytch, see Puff and say he fukked over everyone to get where he's at and on.

4. I pointed out the only promotion that had taken place up until the day of this thread in relation to other promotion campaigns, trying to get a clear picture of what the fukk the thread starter is talking about. And this again is dikkriding? Who?

1. Well, I didn't realize that.

2. You dismiss his "drugs dealer music" but not his "I'm obsessed with money music"

3. I ain't mad at that nikka for being rich. Sure, I wish that wasn't one of his main rap topics but that's a criticism for all of rap. My main point is that one black individual having money does not equate to black wealth. That's all.

4. The promotional campaign, albeit different than what we've seen previously, was tremendous. You really going to pretend the Samsung deal wasn't monumental.

Come on, @Harry B, you know you a dikkriding stan that loves the attention.