Men should be allowed to legally opt out of being a parent

[winb83]

Right so you decide whether or not you will fly...



Stay on topic nikka. You are making use cases based on your irrational argument. The plane crashing and me teleporting has nothing to do with me fukking and WILLINGLY LAYING DOWN AND BUSSING in a chick. Your argument falls apart with each post. Thats like saying nikka the plane is crashing but I aint gonna use this teleportation device. Read. I know I am going to cum but I aint pulling out but I want this bytch and the courts to let me off even though I knew what I was doing




FOH read above....

my argument once again is at any stage a woman can opt out so a man should be treated equally to her in that regard. is your argument then that i am wrong and men and women shouldn't be treated equally?

i don't care if he busted in her raw or had a condom on because again how the pregnancy occurred has nothing to do with the fact that at any point a woman can opt out. is that not true? if a woman chooses to have raw sex with a man and he bust in her can she not opt out at any point?

for a woman the act of having sex alone is not consent to having a child. if that's the case why should it be for a man? because...? i'm still waiting for a legitimate answer to why a man shouldn't be given the same options as a woman.

 

[winb83]

I'mma have to disagree. If it's your kid, you need to take care of it. If you are having sex you have to prepare for the repercussions of that as a man. There DOES need to be paternity tests after birth though.

a man should take care of his child. i don't disagree with that. but there's a huge difference between should and should be forced to. in an ideal world a woman tells a man she's pregnant and keeping it the man says ok i'll do right by my kid on his own.

but...

before that child was born the woman was forced to confront the fact that she was pregnant and make a decision of whether or not she wanted the child. because she was given that option and you had no say in her decision as a man you should be given an equivalent option. since a man forcing a woman to have an abortion isn't practical you should be given the choice to walk away and be free of all obligations.

if a child is produced after after a man is given this choice it will be because the woman decided that she wanted this independent of what he wanted and was willing to do it alone.

i'm not arguing that a man shouldn't take care of his kid i'm arguing that if she's given a choice at point a and b he should be given a choice at point a and b and not just point a.

do you disagree that it is unfair and even unjust for a woman to get a second option that a man is strapped along for the ride for?

 

[Dirk Diggler]

my argument once again is at any stage a woman can opt out so a man should be treated equally to her in that regard. is your argument then that i am wrong and men and women shouldn't be treated equally?

Opt out how if she put it up for adoption then nowone but the adoptees are worried about this. If its a foster home then no one but the foster parents take on this responsibility. If she ops out a mother THAN DOESNT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO DO RIGHT BY YOUR CHILD nikka. Have some self respect and testosterone about yourself.

i don't care if he busted in her raw

You lose this argument when you say he WILLINGLY did these things. Stop that for the integrity of your argument

or had a condom on because again how the pregnancy occurred has nothing to do with the fact that at any point a woman can opt out.

She got pregnant and DNA test will prove it was your semen regardless (I bet you thought I was going to say irregardless) of how it happened. Those are the consequences of playing Russian Roulette with your dikk....

is that not true? if a woman chooses to have raw sex with a man and he bust in her can she not opt out at any point?

He is at fault just as much as she is for agreeing to that bullshyt KNOWING the outcome of such actions

for a woman the act of having sex alone is not consent to having a child. if that's the case why should it be for a man? because...? i'm still waiting for a legitimate answer to why a man shouldn't be given the same options as a woman.

The hood answer is because the courts know nikkas like you are used to running... The consequent of having a child is carrying it for nine months and if nikkas like you opt out she still has to take care of it

 

[kevm3]

Paying whatever minor fee for a paternity test sure beats paying 18 years for a kid that's not yours.

 

[kevm3]

a man should take care of his child. i don't disagree with that. but there's a huge difference between should and should be forced to. in an ideal world a woman tells a man she's pregnant and keeping it the man says ok i'll do right by my kid on his own.

but...

before that child was born the woman was forced to confront the fact that she was pregnant and make a decision of whether or not she wanted the child. because she was given that option and you had no say in her decision as a man you should be given an equivalent option. since a man forcing a woman to have an abortion isn't practical you should be given the choice to walk away and be free of all obligations.

if a child is produced after after a man is given this choice it will be because the woman decided that she wanted this independent of what he wanted and was willing to do it alone.

i'm not arguing that a man shouldn't take care of his kid i'm arguing that if she's given a choice at point a and b he should be given a choice at point a and b and not just point a.

do you disagree that it is unfair and even unjust for a woman to get a second option that a man is strapped along for the ride for?

Women shouldn't be able to get an abortion without the father's consent. That would be fair. I don't believe in the abortion ethic of hey, not feeling having a kid. Time to x the kid out.

 

[Malfoy]

Damn Dirk is getting it in, in this thread. Every time i'm about to respond he lets off a rocket. I would rep you but it's off.

 

[Dooby]

You guys are straw manning Winb83's argument like crazy. Dirk Diggler is the main culprit

 

[winb83]

Opt out how if she put it up for adoption then nowone but the adoptees are worried about this. If its a foster home then no one but the foster parents take on this responsibility. If she ops out a mother THAN DOESNT GIVE YOU THE RIGHT TO DO RIGHT BY YOUR CHILD nikka. Have some self respect and testosterone about yourself.



You lose this argument when you say he WILLINGLY did these things. Stop that for the integrity of your argument



She got pregnant and DNA test will prove it was your semen regardless (I bet you thought I was going to say irregardless) of how it happened. Those are the consequences of playing Russian Roulette with your dikk....



He is at fault just as much as she is for agreeing to that bullshyt KNOWING the outcome of such actions



The hood answer is because the courts know nikkas like you are used to running... The consequent of having a child is carrying it for nine months and if nikkas like you opt out she still has to take care of it

first of all you assume i wanna duck fatherhood because i argue that men and women should have the same options. if i have a child i'd be in the childs life and wouldn't opt out.

a woman can opt out by using a morning after pill, having an abortion, dropping the child off at a safe haven, giving the child up for adoption.

the irony of all of this is a white female feminist came up with the concept of what i'm talking about. she called it the financial abortion. even women agree with this. obviously not all women because some women want to strap men along for the ride and don't want them to have that choice. you'll also notice that these women say things like if you have sex and it results in a child. they tend to leave out the decision that the woman made to have a child regardless of the man's wishes.

 

[winb83]

You guys are straw manning Winb83's argument like crazy. Dirk Diggler is the main culprit

he's not even arguing against me. i'm arguing that both the man and woman should be given choices pre and post pregnancy and he's talking about a man being responsible and swagless this and whether or not he he fukked her raw.

none of thew things he says address the argument that a man should be able to opt out of obligation and fatherhood at any point that a woman is able to do the same.

his whole argument against me is just a series of logical fallacies including straw man and ad hominem the second of which is pretty typical of most posters on these boards if they wanna argue against somebody.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

my argument once again is at any stage a woman can opt out so a man should be treated equally to her in that regard. is your argument then that i am wrong and men and women shouldn't be treated equally?

If both parents opt out where does that leave the b*stard child?

i don't care if he busted in her raw or had a condom on because again how the pregnancy occurred has nothing to do with the fact that at any point a woman can opt out.

But a pregnancy occurred now whos to blame

is that not true? if a woman chooses to have raw sex with a man and he bust in her can she not opt out at any point?

Why did he buss in her is he not accountable as well for his actions. You nikka wasnt summer lunch while breaking the speed limit fukking

for a woman the act of having sex alone is not consent to having a child. if that's the case why should it be for a man?

Its implied once you penetrate

because...? i'm still waiting for a legitimate answer to why a man shouldn't be given the same options as a woman.

fukk your reasoning man up and dont let your little nikka or nigglette bleed anymore taxes from my pockets

 

[Dirk Diggler]

Damn Dirk is getting it in, in this thread. Every time i'm about to respond he lets off a rocket. I would rep you but it's off.

Sorry the tranny lovers and their supporters would love to neg me LOL and at the same time

 

[winb83]

If both parents opt out where does that leave the b*stard child?


But a pregnancy occurred now whos to blame



Why did he buss in her is he not accountable as well for his actions. You nikka wasnt summer lunch while breaking the speed limit fukking


Its implied once you penetrate




fukk your reasoning man up and dont let your little nikka or nigglette bleed anymore taxes from my pockets

the issue and basis of this thread is not who did what or how the pregnancy happened. that is irrelevant for the sole reason that even after it has happened the woman always gets a say in what happens next and unless she gives him one the man has no say at all. his wishes can be totally ignored.

this situation is imbalanced and unfair. we have a situation where one side has absolute power over an issue that effects both while the other side is powerless. giving both sides power introduces balance to things.

your tax dollars are paying for deadbeat dad's kids right now. offering men an opt out clause forces women to come to terms that the man they fukk doesn't have to do jack shyt for any child produced so they're then forced to ask themselves do they really wanna raise a baby truly alone instead of just having a kid and having the father abandon it after the fact.

you know what nikkas opt out clause is right now? give the chick a fake name and no real contact info and if she gets knocked up vanish into thin air. happens a lot.

 

[Anothergirl]

technically guys you can legally opt out of being a parent. it's called keeping your dikk in your pants.

 

[Mrsmoothwb]

You sound just as stupid as the chick at my job who says every pregnancy should be accompanied by a paternity test. Who the fukk is going to pay for those b*stard children. There is a whole bunch of fail with this premise

1. Why are fukking with a chick RAW that if you got her pregnant you would leave your seed.
2. What man WILLINGLY walks away from his NEXT generation which begs the question was your father present in your life
3. Why would you want another man raising your child
4. Being able to opt out is talking the easy bytch made way out.
5. When the bytch on welfare its a nikka like me paying taxes that is gonna feel the crunch for you bringing in another air breather dead to society little b*stard ass child


DAMN!

 

[Dirk Diggler]

You guys are straw manning Winb83's argument like crazy. Dirk Diggler is the main culprit

fukk him and his see through arguments the basis of this thread doesnt even warrant a response but I felt the need to again let this fukk boy know he cant speak on shyt he knows nothing about... Kids and women. Anyone taking advice from him or listening to him is prolly in the same boat with this nikka he sounds like a watered down version of Reincar.....

he's not even arguing against me. i'm arguing that both the man and woman should be given choices pre and post pregnancy and he's talking about a man being responsible and swagless this and whether or not he he fukked her raw.

Choice post pregnancy you ole to be or not to be nikka its to late both of you all are fukked. Choices pre pregnancy consisted of you protecting yourself and your investment by using a condom. I dont feel sorry for you nikkas

none of thew things he says address the argument that a man should be able to opt out of obligation and fatherhood at any point that a woman is able to do the same.

Why? Because you havent addressed what happens to the child after all this shyt is said and done. You act like having a child is a chess peice and you can pawn the fukker off when you want to. It doesnt work like that, smarten up. If that bytch dont want to take care of my seed do me a favor and dont take me to court so I can do the right things and raise that child to be an upstanding citizen and not drain the rest of the nikka paying taxes.

his whole argument against me is just a series of logical fallacies

Did you do this again

including straw man and ad hominem the second of which is pretty typical of most posters on these boards if they wanna argue against somebody.

Naw my G I am asking you pertinent shyt you on the other hand are dealing with unrealistic situations. The courts think SOMEONE has to take care of the child and if the mother isnt fit the father is next in line after that its the government and foster care. Good luck breeding a child and relinquishing them to the system. Where is your father?

the issue and basis of this thread is not who did what or how the pregnancy happened. that is irrelevant for the sole reason that even after it has happened the woman always gets a say in what happens next and unless she gives him one the man has no say at all. his wishes can be totally ignored.


this situation is imbalanced and unfair.

Only to nikka that dont have a child or children

we have a situation where one side has absolute power over an issue that effects both while the other side is powerless. giving both sides power introduces balance to things.

Stop fukking with ratchet ass females and the courts wont even be an option

your tax dollars are paying for deadbeat dad's kids right now. offering men an opt out clause forces women to come to terms that the man they fukk doesn't have to do jack shyt for any child produced so they're then forced to ask themselves do they really wanna raise a baby truly alone instead of just having a kid and having the father abandon it after the fact.

Giving nikkas an EASIER way out doesnt solve the problem I said this three pages ago

you know what nikkas opt out clause is right now? give the chick a fake name and no real contact info and if she gets knocked up vanish into thin air. happens a lot.

My problem with you is you are arguing this from one side. If a nikka gives her a fake number and she let him hit raw and he cums in her, a few things are going to happen

1. the nikka isnt even in a position to deny or accept the child cause chances are she wont see him afterwards ala skeetsinternal
2. She was a fukked up person to begin with having that many men come through and smash raw.
3. How is she going to explain to her child she doesnt know who fukked her around that time in order to get her pregnant
4. If she decides to trap[ the simp he needs to be a little smarter about his decisions of falling in love with a whore

and the list goes on. I think you inexperienced nikkas are getting taken for a ride and you come here to vent about the shyt.....