This the song he was referring to when he said Irv started with them and got no traction (pre-Mic Geronimo)
I bought their album

but I didn't know irv was involved til this interview, the fact irv never talks about them means it ended bad
This the song he was referring to when he said Irv started with them and got no traction (pre-Mic Geronimo)
for me personally, it was great because I love history for one, two, this is era I grew up in, and three I am a huge Mic fan. the history is interesting to say the least, particularly the back stories. also how closely related Mic and Flush are with CNN.
I am not a huge DC fan for some of the reasons you mentioned. mainly the talking over each other and then their line of questioning and noting of historical events/timelines is not concise. what they are some of the best at though is giving the background on the personal aspects connecting the street to the music.
I know how coli is...so what I am going to say is going to catch flack but this happens all the time. Its all about energy. If you know you know. Anyone perceived to take energy from another, it has to be dealt with. Its not about if Mic felt he was a threat to Nas or if Nas felt it either. I am not saying Nas blackballed him either. it wasnt petty shyt. The Firm was the next big thing. all parties involved, especially the labels cant have anything taking any luster away from that group. and Mic has ALWAYS been compared to Nas even though Coli seems to have no recollection of this. I remember after shyts Real video dropped, there was heavy anticipation for Mic and I am not sure if it was Source Unsigned Hype or Independent Corner but there was an article saying that Mic was a "baby Nas" this is before his deal with BLUNT and 20 sum years before Steve Stout even uttered it..
so if he is being compared to Nas, that is not a good look for Fox to come out and say Mic is her brother when she just met him a few minutes prior. Whether we admit it or not, if there was no Nas, Mic would be bigger. Thats not saying he was better. Just saying. Same as if BIG wouldnt have died, Jay wouldnt be where he is today. Jaz said Jay used to do this shyt too. They would bring Jaz in and put him on a record and only give him one take and let Jay come back and redo his verses. Not that Jaz was better but there can never be the perception that a lesser known rapper is outshining you on your own track. At least not back at that time it wasnt.
shyt happens in the music industry all the time, I can name dozens of examples...going from MJ-Prince, Mary J-Faith, etc....and lets not forget how R. Kelly had Jive shut Joe shyt down because he felt he was in his lane.
You do know during that era Nas was on some fukk shyt? Even Foxy referred to him as "King Cobra". I'm inclined to believe Nas was on some fukkery just based on his track record at the time.Yeah, It sounded like he was making Nas guilty by association because of the Stoute connection more than, that he thinks Nas was personally doing it to him.
You act like they're drinking everyday.
Irv did the remixI bought their album
but I didn't know irv was involved til this interview, the fact irv never talks about them means it ended bad
Irv did the remix
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Hmmm I don't remember anyone from NJD SDTK that reminded me of Onyx but I remember the group Gang Green that had that joint with Fredro Starr and they were like Onyx clones. (Understandably so since X1 and Fredro's brother were both in the group).Who was the other knock-off ONYX? they had the track on New Jersey Drive soundtrack
Hmmm I don't remember anyone from NJD SDTK that reminded me of Onyx but I remember the group Gang Green that had that joint with Fredro Starr and they were like Onyx clones. (Understandably so since X1 and Fredro's brother were both in the group).
I found it. Wrong 90's soundtrack - It was Menace.
Same with Nas and Jay, he won't let anyone badmouth them on his platform.
Flush was a bit annoying but he genuinely seemed to just be looking out for Mic. Was a very dope interview up until Mic got a bit too drunk.
Drinkchamps is, ironically, at it's best when they're all sober.