MICHAEL JACKSON WANTED 6 BEATS FROM DR. DRE WITH NO PUBLISHING.....

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for what??

elephant in the room, mike was on his way down at this point. he had way more to gain from this than NWA did.

and theres a strong chance NWA wouldve been looking corny after this and ruined their draw.






no it doesnt.

people prolly just argue with YOU heavy because you go overboard with your fan-dom.
I'm not acting like I'm in the moment fam. It's the year 2020.. Dre and MJ have zero records together. Do you think if MJ and Dre had 6 motherfukking records together, they wouldn't be legendary? Not a single one? You wouldn't even want to hear it? I'm sure Dre kicks himself to this day for not working with THE legend. And he's dead.

Now in the moment, you might have a point. But today... Nah... They should have done that shyt. That's Michael fukking Jackson. No matter where he is in life, that's a once in a lifetime chance. And the proof is here now.
 

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And gained BILLIONS more. Son what the fukk are u talking about? Honestly. Who are these “old heads” that had a problem with Thriller? Muthafukkas who only cared about Motown? I’m not even gonna get into this shyt with u because it’s fukking literally one of the stupidest arguments I ever engaged in. I won’t even be going back n forth about it anymore. U have zero facts to back this shyt up. I don’t know who the fukk YOU was hanging with but I ain’t met a single damn person in life old or young shytting on Thriller Michael Jackson. Some people may PREFER the Off The Wall album. shyt. I PREFER the Off The Wall album. But u take shyt TOO far fam. And try to pass them crazy ass hot takes off as facts and this is where u end up looking like an ass fam. Lol. Then. This also is supposed to support the fact that it would’ve been a BAD idea for Dre to produce for MJ in 91. U are fukking nuts bruh. lol
I feel you 1000%, but It ain't farfetched tho.. Same shyt Nas dealt with from Illmatic to It Was Written. :russ:
 

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The irony of this CAC @Sccit accusing a more knowledgeable brother of being a CAC. You couldn’t make this up. This hook nose vulture really thinks he’s Black.:mjlol:
 

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for what??

elephant in the room, mike was on his way down at this point. he had way more to gain from this than NWA did.

and theres a strong chance NWA wouldve been looking corny after this and ruined their draw.






no it doesnt.

people prolly just argue with YOU heavy because you go overboard with your fan-dom.

Facts. Around that time, MJ was considered corny in the black community.
 

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I NEVER SAID SHES A JOKE

:snoop:

JUST THE FACT THAT U CLAIMED DRE WOULD LOOK CORNY WHEN HE WAS ALREADY PRODUCING SINGERS NOWHERE NEAR MICHAELS STATURE WAS FUNNYSTYLE, SO I HAD TO POINT THAT OUT

MICHAEL WAS NEVER A LAUGHINGSTOCK ..... ONLY TO GOOFY CACS AND SLANDEROUS TABLOIDS. AND TBH, THE HEIGHT OF THAT WAS IN THE MID-90S, LONG AFTER THIS PROPOSED DEAL.....

REAL ONES ALWAYS RESPECTED MICHAEL AND HE WAS COMIN OFF “BAD” WHEN DRE TURNED HIM DOWN....

FALL BACK, U OUT YOUR ELEMENT HERE.

How old were you in the late 80s/early 90s? We stopped fukking with Mike after he dropped the bad album.
 

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I'm not acting like I'm in the moment fam. It's the year 2020.. Dre and MJ have zero records together. Do you think if MJ and Dre had 6 motherfukking records together, they wouldn't be legendary? Not a single one? You wouldn't even want to hear it? I'm sure Dre kicks himself to this day for not working with THE legend. And he's dead.

Now in the moment, you might have a point. But today... Nah... They should have done that shyt. That's Michael fukking Jackson. No matter where he is in life, that's a once in a lifetime chance. And the proof is here now.

There's an article posted in this thread where Dre discussed why he didn't want to work with Michael Jackson. Dre likes introducing new artists because it is a greater challenge in taking a new artist, giving them a sound, and they blow up. Whereas working with Michael Jackson, there's pressure on both artists to make something that stands up to or exceeds their best work.

Its producers that have Michael Jackson records to their credit, but when you look at MJ's work, rarely if ever do those records hold up to what he and Quincy Jones created. For example, R. Kelly wrote and produced "You're Not Alone". Song went #1 and all. Think it even set records, but in the grand scheme of things, does that song even one of the best in either artist's catalog?
 

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The irony of this CAC @Sccit accusing a more knowledgeable brother of being a CAC. You couldn’t make this up. This hook nose vulture really thinks he’s Black.:mjlol:


ANYONE WHO SAYS CATS WASNT FUCCIN WIT MICHAEL IN THE 80S IS A CAC OR AT THE VERY LEAST CACISH CUZ WHITE FOLKS WAS THE ONES NOT FUCCIN WIT MICHAEL.......


MIDDLE-EASTERNS ALWAYS LOVED MICHAEL, THATS A FACT


U MIND HOPPIN OFF THE NUTSACK THO?
 

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I feel you 1000%, but It ain't farfetched tho.. Same shyt Nas dealt with from Illmatic to It Was Written. :russ:


thats the funny thing about it.
@spliz is the quintessential nas stanatic. hes seen lesser transitions get smacked down with the quickness.

but the idea of grown men who grew up on soul music, not taking a liking to music like the thriller album and all the funny-boy chit that came with it, is just unbelievable to @spliz.

childhood nostalgia is UNDEFEATED daddy. BOOK IT MARKS.


The irony of this CAC @Sccit accusing a more knowledgeable brother of being a CAC. You couldn’t make this up. This hook nose vulture really thinks he’s Black.:mjlol:


yep

thats basically the coli in a nutshell.

these are the types of dudes running around with all the daps and such too. SCARY PLACE we're posting in.:merchant:


I'm not acting like I'm in the moment fam. It's the year 2020.. Dre and MJ have zero records together. Do you think if MJ and Dre had 6 motherfukking records together, they wouldn't be legendary? Not a single one? You wouldn't even want to hear it? I'm sure Dre kicks himself to this day for not working with THE legend. And he's dead.

Now in the moment, you might have a point. But today... Nah... They should have done that shyt. That's Michael fukking Jackson. No matter where he is in life, that's a once in a lifetime chance. And the proof is here now.


maybe/maybe not.

wheres all the classic records that dr dre did with rakim & the firm?? one would assume that they wouldve been sure-shot classics as well, right??:whistle:

also, everybody isnt into idol worship. i remember mtv's "past, present, future" episode on dr dre back in 1993. i still have it on VHS. the segment where hes talking about snoop, who was getting ready to drop; im gonna LOOSELY quote this: 'im more into breaking new artists and seeing them sign their first autographs. im not really into producing for people who are already stars like say a michael jackson. that doesnt do it for me".

so naw, if im a dr dre, im not taking some rinky dink paycut to do beats for anybody.
and dr dre clearly didnt need to do a beat for mike. the proof is in the pudding.


Yep.

Talking about 80s OGs when he was in diapers when Bad came out


and you prolly werent even alive at all, but that aint stopping you from arguing.:whistle:

besides, this isnt the early 1920s that we're discussing here. most of the hip cats are still kickin on a high level.

why dont you try asking around if you dont believe it??

.........if you have that type access.:mjlol:


Facts. Around that time, MJ was considered corny in the black community.


these dudes dont want to hear that tho.

childhood nostalgia is undeeated. BOOK IT MARKS.
 
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ANYONE WHO SAYS CATS WASNT FUCCIN WIT MICHAEL IN THE 80S IS A CAC OR AT THE VERY LEAST CACISH CUZ WHITE FOLKS WAS THE ONES NOT FUCCIN WIT MICHAEL.......


MIDDLE-EASTERNS ALWAYS LOVED MICHAEL, THATS A FACT


U MIND HOPPIN OFF THE NUTSACK THO?

How old were you at the time? Serious question.

Cause you definitely don’t know what you are talking about.
 

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I feel like Dre fumbled this. MJ would have been a good look and prolly would've added more stripes to his eliteness. Imagine if mike came out at up in smoke tour instead of summer jam:wow:
 

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I feel you 1000%, but It ain't farfetched tho.. Same shyt Nas dealt with from Illmatic to It Was Written. :russ:
Fam of course. But come the fukk on. Look at the scale. MJ became literally the most famous person in the world at that point. It’s just a horrible statement to make cause the amount of people shytting on MJ REALLY didn’t matter at that point.
 

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How old were you in the late 80s/early 90s? We stopped fukking with Mike after he dropped the bad album.
nikka. YOU stopped fukkin wit Mike after the Bad album. The nikka that dapped u said black people stopped fukkin wit Mike after Thriller. That’s just fukkin stupid. It’s stupid. No matter what age u are. It’s just fukkin dumb.
 
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