Or Jimmy/Terry
Or The Neptunes
all of these producers can also write and actually play instruments and have cross genre success (which Dre does not). Now some could say “look at what he did with Gwen” but “Rich Girl” was already a well known song that he jacked.
shyt, he was jacking beats in the Wreckin Crew days. “Before You Turn Off the Lights” has a heavy unchopped sample all over it.
Where are the large parcels of original shyt Dre has done? When you have access to Storch, Mike Elizondo, Daz and Mel Man, the process gets way easier. But I’m not going to put undue praise when he would literally sample the shyt out of records and not even chop it up like Jay Dee or Primo would take the time to do.
Dre’s consistency was never there and Pac himself called him out on taking too long to do even one track. Meanwhile, Daz and Quik were under the same umbrella and cranking out more shyt. I’ll give Dre credit for being a great mixer and probably balancing out the vibe in the studio and people respecting him enough to organize everything, but pound for pound, he can’t see Teddy and would absolutely get washed by Babyface.
These are dudes who are beatmakers and producers + can mix.
If we are going to judge these producers it has to be fair and on purely identifiable solo work. Can’t only praise Timbo during the Timberlake era when Danja made that project what it was.
At least when you get a Teddy track or a Jimmy/Terry track, you know there wasn’t other people in there helping out and not getting credit until after the fact when the truth comes out on Dub CNN.
THINGS PEOPLE SAY THAT OUTS THEM AS A CASUAL:
“DRE IS A GREAT MIXER BUT HE CANT MAKE BEATS!”
A MAJORITY OF HIS NWA STINT WAS WIT ZERO CO-PRODUCERS.. U WOULDNT KNOW THIS IF YOU WERENT WELL VERSED IN WEST COAST HIP-HOP
LISTING A BUNCH OF HIS CO-PRODUCERS AND SESSION PLAYERS LIKE IT MEANS SOMETHING .. YOUR POST READS AS IF ALL HIS BEATS ARE SAMPLED OR MADE BY OTHERS, LIKE HE’S PUFFY OR SOME SHIIT....
EVEN WIT HIS SAMPLED TRACKS, TAKE A JOINT LIKE NUTHIN BUT A G THANG, FOR INSTANCE.. BUMP I WANA DO SOMETHING FREAKY TO U IN YOUR WHIP... THEN FOLLOW IT UP WIT G THANG. THE MASTRY IS IN THE THUMP, THE REFINING OF THE INSTRUMENTS, THE LAYERING, THE DROPS.... UNEQUIVOCAL SONIC WIZARDRY THAT ONLY DRE COULD PULL. BUT A CASUAL EAR WHO NEVER DABBLED IN MUSIC WILL NEVER PICK THAT UP OFF TOP
NOW TAKE A BEAT LIKE JUST DIPPIN., 100% ORIGINAL, ZERO CO-PRODUCERS OR SESSION PLAYERS..ONE OF MY ALL-TIME FAVORITE DRE BEATS IF WE KEEPIN IT A BUCK. DO U THINK SOME1 LIKE PUFFY IS CAPABLE OF THAT?
“DRE DOESNT PLAY INSTRUMENTS” .. HE BEEN A BEAST ON THE KEYBOARDS AND PIANO. DRE IS WELL LEARNED IN MUSIC THEORY.. MOST PRODUCERS ARE NOT. JUST BECAUSE HE PREFERS TO COMPOSE OTHERS DOESNT MAKE HIM LESS OF A PRODUCER. AS A MATTER OF FACT, HAVING THE GENIUS TO BRING AN ENTIRE ORCHESTRA TOGETHER AND GUIDE THEM AS IF EACH PERSON IS YOUR PERSONAL INSTRUMENT MAKES IT THAT MUCH MORE IMPRESSIVE
NOW THATS NOTHIN AGAINST U PERSONALLY, BUT THE DRE SLANDER NEEDS TO STOP. U MENTIONING DAZ IN THE SAME SENTENCE AS DRE IS BLASPHEMOUS. DONT DO THAT MAYN.