Military brehs……help me out with this question?

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Talk out all the way out your ass, brehs. :martin:


exactly when I got to 30th AG (the unit at Fort Benning that you go to Before you even start Basic Training This dude said he wanted to be the CSM of Delta Force. I didn't even know what that was but I openly laughed. The dude was either shy or not fond of showers and some dudes were gonna toss his ass in there. Anyway a short while later (I'd say we were in the 30th for less than a week) and someone beat his ass, He didn't even make it to basic training with us. Another guy who stated he wanted to go SF fell out of the last big march in basic training and didn't graduate either.

The funny thing was there was a ranger recruiter (we were a cohort platoon and we all ended up in the same brigade in the 82nd) at Airborne school who told us to follow him and took off running. The only guy who made it to the Ranger compound that I knew was this guy called Reyna. I never saw him again so I guess he made it. Everyone else reported to the 82nd after we got our wings.
 

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they will literally restart some just to ensure x amount of trainees for the next cycle. Also the two tries things when they catch someone who is extra cocky they will fail them or peer them out and bet on if they come back...When it comes to the clandestine organizations they generally only have the best of the best across the military who want to volunteer. They generally seem to try guys out like an assignment for example only so many stay on. And on top of that they are now working in support of national interest fully. So you will be working in support with homeland, and the 3 letters and more.

But the dudes legit get to train to hone their craft all day and night. You know how we would do shoot houses they will legit build an entire city based on a scenario each time and they will train it until they know it by repetition. Damn the 350-1, aint no closeout formation, if they do organized PT it's something based on the team they most def get their down time. You can have a young SSG 18X acting as an LNO in a Division CP.

I have had multiple Soldiers who have went on to selection and now are assigned but the CSM is the only one I know who left the teams. And he really didn't have much choice only so many jobs. I can't even tell you that it's a certain MOS that does better I've seen 19Ds, 68Ws, 92Gs, 74Ds, 13Fs, 11Bs, all transition and they all have one thing in common they trained for that some went back 3 times.

I left out the Marines and JTACS and Seals and their corpsman....It's just an honest statement but looking back as I get ready to close the book on my career I def wish I would of gave it a couple of tries earlier in my career.

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Meanwhile @Dave24 can't even get on the bus to MEPS. :bryan: :deadmanny:
 

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Lot of dudes who failed selection or got kicked out by the Rangers ended up in the duece. In fact there were so many that when McCrystal needed extra support personnel he used 1-325 for backup. He did time in the 82nd and I think the commander of the 18th Airborne is a former Ranger CO.

:russ: I can give you some examples it's dudes who have made it so far through the pipeline that they were near graduation and would get peered out or just put out for personality reasons. Young Specialist showing up with almost all of the scare badges. Honestly within the 18th ABN Corp footprint especially 82nd/75th/173RD most if not all of the leadership positions should be airborne and most are ranger qualified (even the sustainers). Meanwhile I'd have whole companies full of tankers or scouts that can't get half of the schools.
 

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they will literally restart some just to ensure x amount of trainees for the next cycle. Also the two tries things when they catch someone who is extra cocky they will fail them or peer them out and bet on if they come back...When it comes to the clandestine organizations they generally only have the best of the best across the military who want to volunteer. They generally seem to try guys out like an assignment for example only so many stay on. And on top of that they are now working in support of national interest fully. So you will be working in support with homeland, and the 3 letters and more.

But the dudes legit get to train to hone their craft all day and night. You know how we would do shoot houses they will legit build an entire city based on a scenario each time and they will train it until they know it by repetition. Damn the 350-1, aint no closeout formation, if they do organized PT it's something based on the team they most def get their down time. You can have a young SSG 18X acting as an LNO in a Division CP.

I have had multiple Soldiers who have went on to selection and now are assigned but the CSM is the only one I know who left the teams. And he really didn't have much choice only so many jobs. I can't even tell you that it's a certain MOS that does better I've seen 19Ds, 68Ws, 92Gs, 74Ds, 13Fs, 11Bs, all transition and they all have one thing in common they trained for that some went back 3 times.

I left out the Marines and JTACS and Seals and their corpsman....It's just an honest statement but looking back as I get ready to close the book on my career I def wish I would of gave it a couple of tries earlier in my career.
Yeah the thing was being an enabler was so cool that I didn't really feel the need, I mean all attachments wore Crye's too even the CST's. I did want to join the Joint Communcations Unit but at the time that was so secret I didn't know how to even join. They have a way to apply now. I wasn't Intel but at one point they were asking for dudes to apply for the SED or whatever they called it for ISA. I didn't get a letter for that though.

You're kind of right for SF anyone assigned to Bragg Must get The SF brief ( I got it as a Private) and the Unit openly advertises in the Post newspaper and they send out the Letter and they have open briefs as well. But the JCU and the ISA they straight up picked who they wanted.
 

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:russ: I can give you some examples it's dudes who have made it so far through the pipeline that they were near graduation and would get peered out or just put out for personality reasons. Young Specialist showing up with almost all of the scare badges. Honestly within the 18th ABN Corp footprint especially 82nd/75th/173RD most if not all of the leadership positions should be airborne and most are ranger qualified (even the sustainers). Meanwhile I'd have whole companies full of tankers or scouts that can't get half of the schools.


Yeah all Infantry Leaders had to have a Ranger Tab if they wanted to stick around in the duece. I heard that it was a time back in the day they used to get mad that they lost so many good people to SF/Rangers?Delta but I guess a drug deal was made that they'd get dibs on all non selects, In some of the longer selections required a PCS move to Bragg anyway so why not put them in the duece rather than shipping them off to Korea.

Yeah the schools list was extensive there were tons and there was a lot of civilian schools too. I learned how to splice wires in a 2 week class at Fayetteville state.
 

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Yeah the thing was being an enabler was so cool that I didn't really feel the need, I mean all attachments wore Crye's too even the CST's. I did want to join the Joint Communcations Unit but at the time that was so secret I didn't know how to even join. They have a way to apply now. I wasn't Intel but at one point they were asking for dudes to apply for the SED or whatever they called it for ISA. I didn't get a letter for that though.

You're kind of right for SF anyone assigned to Bragg Must get The SF brief ( I got it as a Private) and the Unit openly advertises in the Post newspaper and they send out the Letter and they have open briefs as well. But the JCU and the ISA they straight up picked who they wanted.

thats the same for the Chemical operations team, the Artillery FO's, Sappers, they even had some combat journalist. They all selected who they wanted. All have one thing in common. The threat is that you will be forced to go back to regular Army. I was always curious about the WHCA that seems like the job most signal types would be after. I think my biggest loss was that they shut down the Long Range Recon Squadrons when the Corps had LRSs I had more jobs for progression available. But as we know when they start downsizing they change things up and toughen up on "standards"
 

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Yeah all Infantry Leaders had to have a Ranger Tab if they wanted to stick around in the duece. I heard that it was a time back in the day they used to get mad that they lost so many good people to SF/Rangers?Delta but I guess a drug deal was made that they'd get dibs on all non selects, In some of the longer selections required a PCS move to Bragg anyway so why not put them in the duece rather than shipping them off to Korea.

Yeah the schools list was extensive there were tons and there was a lot of civilian schools too. I learned how to splice wires in a 2 week class at Fayetteville state.


yeah I remember one of my guys went to some damn cyber school in DC for 9 months. Mixed class, military and agency types cat came back and didn't do PT the whole time.
 

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This was pointed out to him several times, I even went so far as to suggest certain units to him.
brother should look at the national guard. The NG is a low key good deal if you utilize it correctly and understand its a chance you will have to do state bs and federal bs. they even have SF in the guard.

Iono, the Guard units I know don't like 'weird' folks that don't vibe with the family. :manny:

AD, if you meet the standards for basic billets, you're in. Guard you're applying for a job just like in the civilian sector.
 

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thats the same for the Chemical operations team, the Artillery FO's, Sappers, they even had some combat journalist. They all selected who they wanted. All have one thing in common. The threat is that you will be forced to go back to regular Army. I was always curious about the WHCA that seems like the job most signal types would be after. I think my biggest loss was that they shut down the Long Range Recon Squadrons when the Corps had LRSs I had more jobs for progression available. But as we know when they start downsizing they change things up and toughen up on "standards"
Yeah although I was coming up on indepth I would've gotten out or tried to get assigned to the Pentagon had I been assigned to big Army. That being said one of my privates who was supply was assigned to 2nd ID and he made it a career.

I had the luckiest soldier in the world. He was assigned to the school house after finished his MOS school, Then went to a non deployable unit then came to me at the 82nd. and while he was there for about six months he PCS'ed to DC for the WHCU. I couldn't believe it, he was a so so solider with zero time on the line and he ducked a deployment. That dude is probably a slicksleever now. I don't think he grasped the ramifications because I had to tell him that he was gonna get a Yankee White clearance which is way better than a rando Top Secret clearance.

I wuld've killed to be in the WHCU but again I didn't even know how to apply
 

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How did you know they were Devgru? I mean I know blue is glory hounds but SMU's are still SMU's I was at Fort Bragg worked at group and never saw a dude that was Delta who Identified himself as such. I was impressed by the secrecy We jumped over their base all the time drove past it on the way to and from ranges and I never saw a single operator I saw a couple of little birds but everytime I went pass the place seemed deserted.
Devgru because we were in school/class together. Basically just told me. This wasn’t uncommon, I worked out with and around a lot of SEAL guys and support units. What I did was up there too in the secrecy department

I had a lot of homies to go JSOC too. Never interested me because of leg injuries and me being a shytty swimmer. But if I had wanted to go specops I could’ve. Maybe even should’ve
 

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yeah I remember one of my guys went to some damn cyber school in DC for 9 months. Mixed class, military and agency types cat came back and didn't do PT the whole time.
I assume you smoked the shyt out of his entitled ass. But yeah some of the schools were amazing I didn't know the young brother Light wheel Mechanic who got killed in the Tongo Tongo Ambush but I do know that all light wheeled mechanics assigned to Mobility Teams have to take the non standard vehicle repair class which is civilian and they get to go to that driving school up in new hampshire where they learn pit manuevers and other James Bong driving shyt.
 
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