MINNESOTA PLAYERS STAGING BOYCOTT #HOH

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http://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/cs/files/University of Minnesota Police Department Redacted 4.pdf

Start on page 7 :huhldup:

After what I've read I'm not sure the first guy is in the clear. She doesn't know how she got naked and started oral.

That was tough to read, let alone experience, if the allegations are true.

So she remembered all those details about where the bed was in the room, the color of the blanket, lack of sheets but conveniently can't remember how she got naked? :comeon:

She sounds like she's embarrassed by the decisions she made that night. This is why allegations are just allegations until they're actually proven. I believe the subsequent train was rape, but I don't believe the initial encounter was.
 

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So she remembered all those details about where the bed was in the room, the color of the blanket, lack of sheets but conveniently can't remember how she got naked? :comeon:

She sounds like she's embarrassed by the decisions she made that night. This is why allegations are just allegations until they're actually proven. I believe the subsequent train was rape, but I don't believe the initial encounter was.

doesn't matter what either of us believe. The point you brought up made me wonder too. I still don't know if that clears the first guy, I'm not a lawyer.
 

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It's her word against theirs, so it will come down to what some people believe. The believability of her story is the crux of the case.

what part of not sure are you struggling with. Weather we believe her or not doesn't make what she said untrue. I admit I didn't read past page 7. Nothing on that page said she consented to the encounter. I think he would be in the clear but I do not know.
 
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what part of not sure are you struggling with. Weather we believe her or not doesn't make what she said untrue. I admit I didn't read past page 7. Nothing on that page said she consented to the encounter. I think he would be in the clear but I do not know.

Why are you getting your panties in a bunch? :wtf:

All parties agree sex happened, so this won't come down to physical evidence. The believability of her story is extremely important here, why are you struggling to understand that?
 

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So she remembered all those details about where the bed was in the room, the color of the blanket, lack of sheets but conveniently can't remember how she got naked? :comeon:
thats usually what happens to sexual assault victims:
Why Rape and Trauma Survivors Have Fragmented and Incomplete Memories
Our understanding of the altered functioning of the brain in traumatic situations is founded on decades of research, and as that research continues, it is giving us a more nuanced view of the human brain “on trauma.” Recent studies suggest that the hippocampus goes into a super-encoding state briefly after the fear kicks in. Victims may remember in exquisite detail what was happening just before and after they realized they were being attacked, including context and the sequence of events. However, they are likely to have very fragmented and incomplete memories for much of what happens after that.
 

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http://kstp.com/kstpImages/repository/cs/files/University of Minnesota Police Department Redacted 4.pdf

Start on page 7 :huhldup:

After what I've read I'm not sure the first guy is in the clear. She doesn't know how she got naked and started oral.

That was tough to read, let alone experience, if the allegations are true.
These brehs clearly didnt read report.

Players were moving like they were guilty. Tried to delete all their messages, none of them had stories that could match, and they blamed each other for the incident. That's why the team gave up the boycott when the report was published.
 

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These brehs clearly didnt read report.

Players were moving like they were guilty. Tried to delete all their messages, none of them had stories that could match, and they blamed each other for the incident. That's why the team gave up the boycott when the report was published.
nikkas just saw "woman" "non consent" "athletes" and had their side made up from jump.
 

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if i was a professional athlete I would have a camera man with me at all times
 

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These brehs clearly didnt read report.

Players were moving like they were guilty. Tried to delete all their messages, none of them had stories that could match, and they blamed each other for the incident. That's why the team gave up the boycott when the report was published.

None of that is true, homie. Players are specifically saying that the report being published (really was leaked) had nothing to do with the ending of the boycott. They weren't even boycotting because they were claiming their teammates were innocent. The administration lied to them multiple times and they felt they were being railroaded not only by the investigation but the supposed punishments. Plus the report is EXTREMELY biased towards the accuser. There are like 50 pages of her recollection (which took place with a lawyer present) and very little from the accused. Not to mention that much of what she told the school varies from what she told the police. She also plead the 5th on stand (knowing she said things that could incriminate her previously were she to answer the current questions) and part of the settlement was that the accused had to ALSO agree to not sue her. She not only wanted to be done but her AND her lawyers wanted to make sure they didn't get a suit brought against them. That throws a lot of shade on her credibility. Not to mention she herself said she just wanted to 'feel safe' and 'not punish anyone'. Who feels they got raped by multiple men in what would be a humiliating way and talks like that? Plus if she is 100% correct that means multiple players purposefully and forcefully raped her with other teammates around. That's a big deal. My thought has always been that she was likely unsure about things as they were happening but went along with it and actively participated even as she wasn't fully certain she wanted to.
 

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Welp...looks like student-athlete credibility for future "protests" is shyt now. Good job, guys. :francis:
 

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So she remembered all those details about where the bed was in the room, the color of the blanket, lack of sheets but conveniently can't remember how she got naked? :comeon:

She sounds like she's embarrassed by the decisions she made that night. This is why allegations are just allegations until they're actually proven. I believe the subsequent train was rape, but I don't believe the initial encounter was.
I think as a general rule, what should happen is you gather all the verifiable facts that you can and go from there. People will have contradictions in moments like this. It's just the nature of the beast. I don't think forgetting some details means you were lying. With that said, I still haven't read the report so who knows.
 

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I judge ppl by their views, not their "crew"

I've yet to hear/read Bo' on some foul stuff on men/women dynamics

He's good in my book on that subject

He mostly advocates us to be open minded to the stuff they go through...kinda how we demand it from white people
Foul stuff? fukk you think he going to say fam getting paid on espn? Come on fam you gotta be smarter than that. On top of that he is annoying on stuff like this because he acts like he is soo different than other guys and that shyt is always a turnoff. It's similar since you want to go with the white people stuff a black person that comes across as he is one if the "good ones" compared to the other savages he happens to be in the same group with. That's my problem with Bo on this shyt. You don't have to act like you better as if most men are raping/holding down women to get your point across. Also similar to how some people felt about Bill Cosby with his speech to people not even involved in that. Funny Bo does that when he the first dude bytching if some white does that towards blacks but he think he can do it and nobody call it out? That's weak sauce
 

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I don't deny rape culture exists and I certainly don't deny the things I don't understand about rape. But every case isn't rape. That's why I quoted the investigator's comments on the video. She was aware, playful, not objecting, conciously aware of the sexual activity, and does not indicate that she wants it to stop. Appears entirely consensual.

So when is the victim not the victim?
I deny rape culture don't exist and all people that think it does are stupid. There is no "culture" speaking about America where people are like rape folks that's what's up. Nobody cosigning anywhere. You might hear/see some shyt online but where are you cats at where rape is cool, promoted, hyped up as some shyt that men should be doing on any mainstream level? That's why when people say "rape culture" they sound like straight up programmed sheep.
 
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