Eve was never really a great rapper though. She's capable, good at times but overall not someone you'd consider top tier. I think that's why she got in and got out. Jade can and did go bar for bar with a lot of top spitters.
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Eve was never really a great rapper though. She's capable, good at times but overall not someone you'd consider top tier. I think that's why she got in and got out. Jade can and did go bar for bar with a lot of top spitters.
"In and out"?
Whether you like her or not, you realize Eve was on top of the female rap world at one point correct?
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I agree Jade is lyrically better then Eve. WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT HAVE TO DO with Eve being a superstar at the female level when she was at her peak and Ms.Jade never getting pass buzz status?
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1st you claim shes overrated on here, then a few lines later, you say shes only a topic because of tink.
WHICH ONE IS IT!!??
Overrated in the thread because she's being made out to be bigger than she actually was. Only a topic, because there's been like one or two topics about her previously, now she's brought up in relation to Tink.
"In and out"?
Whether you like her or not, you realize Eve was on top of the female rap world at one point correct?
She was on top, and she also got out of the rap game when her buzz was on the decline. Her peak was '99-'01ish.
Superstars can't be made though; they have to have that "thing". Eve also got a push Ms. Jade did not. DMX, Jada, RR, B Mac doing full collabos and videos while Jade stuck with Timbaland and Missy. Even if she had been with a true hip-hop camp, Ms. Jade still would've never achieved superstar status. She's too gutter for it.
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How is she too gutter for superstar status?..that dont even make sense seeing how Remy blew the fukk up off her Lean Back feature..then she was everywhere...and Remy is mad gutter..Ms Jade didnt blow cause she didnt have that ONE verse or track to make everyone notice her...simple as that..and Eve was poppin for a good 5-6 years and she kinda fell back on her music shyt to focus on her TV show...
Remy didn't blow either, she gained marginal popularity off of Lean Back but not's not act like her album didn't flop. She has that one track that they play in the clubs (Whuteva) and she fizzled. She was also with a hip-hop camp that makes street ish, not with Superfriends. But by the time Remy's album dropped, she wasn't even poppin anymore.
I disagree that she doesn't have that one track or verse. She actually has several verses, however she doesn't have those hits that cater to her style. Big Head drowns her out. Count it Off should have been a single; She's A Gangsta should have been a/THE single...Gangsta made me pay attention to her. She was doing songs with Missy and Tweet, no one who garners interest based on skills on the mic.
As far as superstar, they couldn't push her as a sex symbol, because even if she is "cute" all of her video appearances were shot bust up. If you switch her and Amil, she blows up off of that. Eve show debuted in '03. She was already "ehhhh" status by then. Her peak was '99-'02. RR appearances until her album, then her second album was '01. Let's not act like that Let Me Blow Your Mind was actually a great song. She had appearances after album 3, but she definitely wasn't poppin. She was damn near a full-time actress by then.
I think that very few female rappers gain superstar status. You have Kim, Foxy briefly, Eve had a stretch, Nicki has had the longest success. Everyone else gets in around Jade/Digga Digga/Shawna levels. Hell, I didn't even know Jackie-O could spit
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U wrong as fukk..just off the fact u said Nicki had the longest success when kim was successful from like 1996 all the way up till after her jail bid...
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not as a rapper, she wasnt.
"PLEASE. the nerve of this bum bi*ch eve/ how the f*ck you catch a brick wit alicia keys?" - FOXY BROWN
not forgetting how big eve was at all. she had the biggest run since salt-n-pepa. but youre meshing time periods. "whos that girl" & "let me blow your mind" were from eve's 2nd album, which dropped at the top of '01. im not sure if i even remember the butterfly remix.
that song wasnt big, and mike jack was larry holmes status by then breh.eve's 3rd album flopped. that song with alicia keys got heavy promo, so of course it was everywhere, but it wasnt poppin like that. and the album didnt do so well. ms jade's album came out like a few months later, and probably sold about the same with far less hype.
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not as a rapper, she wasnt.
"PLEASE. the nerve of this bum bi*ch eve/ how the f*ck you catch a brick wit alicia keys?" - FOXY BROWN
not forgetting how big eve was at all. she had the biggest run since salt-n-pepa. but youre meshing time periods. "whos that girl" & "let me blow your mind" were from eve's 2nd album, which dropped at the top of '01. im not sure if i even remember the butterfly remix.
eve's 3rd album flopped. that song with alicia keys got heavy promo, so of course it was everywhere, but it wasnt poppin like that. and the album didnt do so well. ms jade's album came out like a few months later, and probably sold about the same with far less hype.
nikka are u actually saying the Butterfly Remix wasn't popular?...what u smokin nikka?..lol....Mike Jack was only larry holmes to his OWN standards...but don't act like the nikka was struggling to sell records or some dumb shyt...u think the US is the only country that matters?..nikka that album sold 13 million records worldwide..ur wildin..lmao...the album didn't even have alotta promotion or a world tour...not typical for MJ..nikka Eve was working wit MICHAEL JACKSON my nikka and u tryna question her popularity?..think about that for a second..smh...by the time Ms Jade came out...Eve had that Gangsta Lovin track wit Alicia Keys...and that Satisfaction single...I mean the album didn't do as well as the album that dropped only a year before but she still was popular in music..what other female rapper would u consider more popular than Eve at that time aside from Lil Kim?..who aint drop shyt in 01 or 02..Kim came back in 03 and did her thing...
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what does that have to do with rap?
it wasnt. it was just a cool song in comparison to the real popular songs at the time. hence, the reason why i vaguely recall the remix. and im not into idol worship, so the whole "she did a song with MICHAEL JACKSON" thing does nothing for me. this wasnt the same mike from the '60s-80s breh.
of course he did those numbers worldwide. hes michael jackson. but nobody cared like that anymore. i remember when "you rocked my world" dropped and got lukewarm reactions. every dog has his day. mike had his. hes not God. besides, that butterfly song was out nearly a year before jade's album anyway, so this argument is pointless.
as for the last comment, eve was more popular as a brand than a rapper by this point. same thing with lil kim, who hasnt dropped an album worth writing home about in 18 years, yet shes still ALL IN THE VIDEO to this very day.
nah. hes right about that. lesbianest, lil kim aint been poppin like that since biggie died. shes been a glorified rap socialite ever since.
EVE had the best rap career since the salt n pepa/mc lyte/latifah eras. but she was CLEARLY about done by the end of '02, and stopped putting music out at the perfect time. your post is proof positive of how great she preserved her legacy. when you step off at the right time, people tend to forget when you were cold out here.
i dont really count nicki minaj cuz rap is different now and longevity is based purely off politics these days. plus, she was un-contested as virtually the only female rapper for 4 years - another testament as to how deadbeat hip-hop has become. AND shes half-sellout pop.
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yall ride for shawna hard on here. i like her too, but nah.
she came out in the '90s anyway.
"In and out"?
Whether you like her or not, you realize Eve was on top of the female rap world at one point correct?
she was indeed in & out.
she was with ruff ryders from '99-02, and i dont think shes dropped an album since.
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