MUSIC REQUIRES LESS SKILL for every passing generation! (WHY OLD HEADS ALWAYS HATIN)

Imlinkin

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Thats BEEN happening. Real disco musicians were mad back in the day because some idiot made a track called "Disco Duck" with a dude in a duck costume sounding like Donald Duck--- which became a hit but made a mockery of their craft.

Theyre like :birdman:
Yo, this is a serious art form B.

Same thing with Jayz who was mad at Mims for saying. "I could sell a mil saying nothing on the track."
:birdman:
Yo, this is a serious art form B.


So why aren't dudes saying that about the music then? You make it seem like there hasn't been bullshyt music for years that was as big, if not bigger, than some of the wack shyt out right now.
 

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They'll say that taste is relative but you dammnn skippy I believe that only the rarest talent could drop that at the age of ....16 damnnn

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Just randomly heard this song and thought of this thread:



Stevie wrote this at 16.

Now we got "eat the booty like groceries"
 

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Thats BEEN happening. Real disco musicians were mad back in the day because some idiot made a track called "Disco Duck" with a dude in a duck costume sounding like Donald Duck--- which became a hit but made a mockery of their craft.

Theyre like :birdman:
Yo, this is a serious art form B.

Same thing with Jayz who was mad at Mims for saying. "I could sell a mil saying nothing on the track."
:birdman:
Yo, this is a serious art form B.

So why aren't the "real" hip hop musicians mad at guys like Young Thug and them, instead they're being praised. Stevie even had some pretty subpar albums at the start of his career, you never know what a lot of these young guys will do as time goes on.
 

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It requires less technical skills, because technology solves those problems just like in everything. I can make a movie with an iPhone if I want to, it's going to be shyt but it's still a movie.

What hasn't changed it's the you still need creativity to create a career of making good music or just one unique idea to make a hit song. The technical skills was a consequence of technology being wack back then. Everything is cheating, go back 300 years and then we can say that rock is cheating. Rock/rnb cats used synthesizers, electric guitars, million dollar studios, vocoders and all that.


Just cause the generation didn't have technology doesn't make them better at making music, it just meant that they had to spend a lot more time. It would take 5 musicians and years of training to create a mustard beat 50 years ago. Now you just need the same idea but instead of years of training you just need certain computer skills.
 
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Back when NY WAS hiphop though, you could drop 2016 lyrics on a track tho?

So why aren't the "real" hip hop musicians mad at guys like Young Thug and them, instead they're being praised. Stevie even had some pretty subpar albums at the start of his career, you never know what a lot of these young guys will do as time goes on.

It requires less technical skills, because technology solves those problems just like in everything. I can make a movie with an iPhone if I want to, it's going to be shyt but it's still a movie.

What hasn't changed it's the you still need creativity to create a career of making good music or just one unique idea to make a hit song. The technical skills was a consequence of technology being wack back then.
 

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The young thug thing confuses me to no end. I tried to get all the way through a track... I really did fam. I think it was that "Check" song. After I saw him dressed like a Hooters thot in one clip I just turned it off. I just never thought that an MC could be 75% undecipherable and make it so big like that. Big ups to the homie for his success though.

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So why aren't the "real" hip hop musicians mad at guys like Young Thug and them, instead they're being praised. Stevie even had some pretty subpar albums at the start of his career, you never know what a lot of these young guys will do as time goes on.
 

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I am 26 and I am just tired of nikkas sound the same. It's all nothing but clones. Bunch of trap rappers want to emulate thugger or Future cause that's who is the hottest in their genre, naw, make your own Lane.

Same will all the auto tune, rap song nikkas.
Who sounds the same?
 

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Even in my era when Nas firsr dropped, your azz had to be lyrical & have a large vocabulary for a hot minute.
This is the truth. rappers were actually trying to get smarter, just to outwit the next dude. Walking around with thesauruses and shyt to bring new words and vocabulary to the lyrics.

The fact that things are so dumbed down and you can now make a full song using the same ten words is just crazy to me.
 
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It's to be expected that there is going to be a lot more bullshyt since there is a lot more music in general.

I like a lot of old things too but I don't compare them to music today it just won't work, do you make music at all?

I just want to see where you're coming from, saying that it takes more skill to do one thing over another is weak, but saying you don't like it is fine, just don't call it a lack of skill because you don't like it.

Hiphop music, by far takes the least amount of musical talent to make.
 

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Yup. :mjlol:

Flood gates open like a muhfukka right now. MOST people have a 2nd grade education. Thats all you need
:pachaha:



Cant front tho.. These lil dudes are beats are :gladbron: dumb good

This is the truth. rappers were actually trying to get smarter, just to outwit the next dude. Walking around with thesauruses and shyt to bring new words and vocabulary to the lyrics.

The fact that things are so sumbed down and you can now make a full song using the same ten words is just crazy to me.
 

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Yup. :mjlol:

Flood gates open like a muhfukka right now. MOST people have a 2nd grade education. Thats all you need
:pachaha:



Cant front tho.. These lil dudes are beats are :gladbron: dumb good
I like most of these beats too. The problem is the lack of variety. there is little feeling in these beats. Its like they are all made for only like 1 or 2 different moods.

Music is supposed to bring out feeling and emotion. I liked how I could listen to a song like Hypnotize, then hit Notorious thugs, then flip to skys the limit...then...well you get the point. So much more variety and emotions from the msuci back then.

Not saying there aren't artists that do that now, just saying its fewer and far between.
 

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:pachaha:oh shyt. Im about to go eat but you bout to catch a bad one for that.
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Hiphop music, by far takes the least amount of musical talent to make.

It's an enigma, some beats you hear and couldn't think to create if you wanted. Others just take 5-10 to recreate
 

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Notice that I said SKILL, and not TALENT, but in some cases you might as well throw talent in the mix as well. Tell me I'm lying:
You are lying...like any profession in life...

(1) In the beginning of something new, there is interest in just the art form itself...People don't really know what they are doing but whatever they are doing sounds/looks good, and they are rocking with it...

(2) Then you reach a point were fundamental rules are established and there is some form of consensus of how the art form should look/sound like...So, artists are able to perfect the skill and expand on it to the maximum...That;s when you get the peak...When the artistry is at a high level and the skill is at a high level...

(3) Then you reach a point were the art form gets SATURATED with skill...Almost everybody and their grandma learns the skill and they start to make it look "easy"...At this point, the consumers get bored with the skill, and they want something "fresh" regardless of skill...

(4) Then something new comes along, and the consumers gravitate to it even if it requires less skill than its predecessor...

(5) But that doesn't mean that contemporary artists are not as skilled as their predecessors...They just need a different skill set to make contemporary music, and this may not require older skills...

(6) There are thousands of SUPER SKILLED technically GIFTED musicians on Youtube, but people want Future and Fetty Wap....It is like saying "there is no longer fresh fruits and vegetables" because the consumers today prefer to run to McDonald and get a quick burger, rather than spend time preparing their own fresh food...

Some skills get lost as new ones are acquired...
 
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