My issue is this shyt(X1X) being compared to HIGH END gaming PCs. Its just stupid.-Spliz-
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Xbox is locked at 30. To be locked at 30 it has to run well above 30 most of the time. The decision to lock it at 30 was on the devs. Unlocked it would probably run similar to those benchmarks you posted with it swinging wildly between 60 and 30.
Right, so why split hairs on what level the settings are on console.
Be real, it's hard to tell even if you switch from "high to very high" on PC. We only know what settings a console game is because digital foundry zooms in and tells us, and even then most of the time X1X is in the "high to very high" range. Therefore your argument that "xbox games aren't on very high" is dumb.
As I said in the OP I'm not here for splitting hairs about specific specs or settings. And I'm not trying to say X1X outperforms those cards.
What I'm saying is X1X offers a comparable(not compatible) experience to high(ish) end PCs.
Um....no, high end gaming is not 4K 30fps.
No there is a baseline.
just like before people were building 4k machines they wanted 1080p 30fps
There is always a baseline.
Right now entry into "high end gaming" is 4k 30frames
It’s always been 60fps
This is officially the dumbest shyt I've seen in months on here. No one ever said 1080P/30fps. This is absolutely stannery to the nth degree to make Xbox look good.
I'm done with you dudes Jesus christ
This nikka said 1080P/30fps was the baseline. Not even your boy Meach could spin that.
maybe your a geeked out tech head that also looked past what was "trending" or reasonable but for anyone that just wanted to get a good machine I only heard of people looking for 1080p and 30 or 60 fps. Then 4k was hot and people wanted to get 4k and its just now starting to be reasonable. But I guess in 2013/14 you was on that Movie theater 4k wave balling wave.
But for most people that wanted a decent high end machine, they wanted to make sure it displayed 1080p and could play 60 fps games.
I know that's why I said entry in high end gaming.
well above 30 could mean 35fps. That's on average. You can't compare avg, highest peaks on a console to a PC's lowest drop and say they're comparable.
The benchmarks I posted don't "SWING WILDLY" wtf is you talking about?? You stay making up some dumb shyt. i have the fukking game dog, how you gonna tell me how the shyt runs?
Idk, because the fukking settings it's running at would paint a better picture as to the misleading argument you made saying "oh it's at 4k/30fps on XB1X.. let's see what it's on like with PC" and then post max settings on a PC and then draw a conclusion.
Breh, the fact that you saying this says it all. Let's say the XB1X has the same custom settings as the example posted above, if even with those changes it's locked at 30fps and yet the card it's being compared to can reach 60fps, double the peformance why are you even arguing with me? It destroys your whole argument.
The CPU in the X1X is really holding it back. had the CPU been better AND it was $500 still that'd be a whole nother story.
If I bought a $500 card as you mentioned in the OP, and it ran games at 30fps tops on the same settings as a console I'd say that wasn't a good purchase.
Why are you playing dumb?
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Very few cards can do 4K/60fps maxed out. Plenty cards can do 4k/60fps with some tweaks on certain games.
Just because you see some games hitting 4k/30fps or even 60fps on Xb1X doesn't suddenly make it on par with a high end gaming PC.
NBA 2k 18 runs at 4k/60fps with HDR on PS4 Pro so by your logic the experience is comparable to a Xbox 1 X yet you'd cry foul wouldn't you?
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Breh, stop it. 1080P/30fps was NEVER a baseline ever. You missed all the "give me 1080p/60fps or give me death" tweets your boy would post all the time?
maybe your a geeked out tech head that also looked past what was "trending" or reasonable but for anyone that just wanted to get a good machine I only heard of people looking for 1080p and 30 or 60 fps. Then 4k was hot and people wanted to get 4k and its just now starting to be reasonable. But I guess in 2013/14 you was on that Movie theater 4k wave balling wave.
But for most people that wanted a decent high end machine, they wanted to make sure it displayed 1080p and could play 60 fps games.
Yes it would be "comparable" to 1X that's why the hell we compare them.Very few cards can do 4K/60fps maxed out. Plenty cards can do 4k/60fps with some tweaks on certain games.
Just because you see some games hitting 4k/30fps or even 60fps on Xb1X doesn't suddenly make it on par with a high end gaming PC.
NBA 2k 18 runs at 4k/60fps with HDR on PS4 Pro so by your logic the experience is comparable to a Xbox 1 X yet you'd cry foul wouldn't you?
That's why digital foundry exists. That's why all the damn different cards and benchmarks exist.
fukk is wrong with you dudes
Again for you.
But for most people that knew just a little bit 1080p/60fps was idea and 4k was a fantasy.
And your taking it out of context, its a baseline entry point. Nothing more, if you had a machine that could run 1080p/60fps smoothly with no problems in 2013/14 you were set. If you had a machine that could display 4k you were a beast.... so guess what the entry level baseline for 4k was.... it sure wasn't 4k/60fps.
Running at 35 wouldn't give a locked 30. You know that from playing PC games. To lock at any framerate the baseline has to be well above what you are locking it at.well above 30 could mean 35fps. That's on average. You can't compare avg, highest peaks on a console to a PC's lowest drop and say they're comparable.
The benchmarks I posted don't "SWING WILDLY" wtf is you talking about?? You stay making up some dumb shyt. i have the fukking game dog, how you gonna tell me how the shyt runs?
And the dude says it in the text of the article that at those benchmarks he posted the FPS had a tendency to drop all the way to 40fps. Read your own dumb ass article.
It's not misleading, you already said the differences can be visually negligible. We are talking about the overall experience, not the specs.
That can't be tested, and in the benchmarks you posted most of them are nowhere near locked at 60(a situation where a dev would just lock it to 30fps) and some of them aren't even in 4K AND they are testing the beta.
That shyt you posted is dumb as fukk and offers no type of reasonable comparison
shyts are expensive. The fact that 1X can even get close to these benchmarks which are ALL using much more expensive CPUs is impressive in itself
Seems 1X is making some of those cards a dumb purchaseIf I bought a $500 card as you mentioned in the OP, and it ran games at 30fps tops on the same settings as a console I'd say that wasn't a good purchase.
Why are you playing dumb?
I'm done.This guy is on some Hurricane Chris shyt in here.
No there is a baseline.
just like before people were building 4k machines they wanted 1080p 30fps
There is always a baseline.
Right now entry into "high end gaming" is 4k 30frames
1080p30fps was never an entry baseline fam. Anybody who builds PC's is going for something that will push 60+fps at whatever desired resolution they want. Who actually wants to build a 30fps machine?
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